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Ami
Ami
01:22
@JonathanSampson, I'm enjoying this discussion with you and I think it's an interesting one. To better understand each other, would you be able to the philosophy.se chat room?
 
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Ami
Ami
04:01
Hey @Cody
@Ami Hello. I'm reading the transcript of the earlier discussion because I missed it.
Ami
Ami
I noticed
@Ami: It looks to me like most of it revolved around a discussion of whether we're willing to violate core principles of the SE sites. I'm certainly not willing to do that. Closing poor quality questions is important for so many reasons, and one of the big reasons I participate here rather than anywhere else on the world wide interwebs. Besides, if the issue is arriving at community consensus, closing questions seems like a great way to arrive at that.
Ami
Ami
@Cody, what "core principles" are you referring to?
just closing poor quality questions?
@Ami: Yes, mainly closing questions. That's what Joseph Spiros seemed most concerned about, and Jon Ericson mentioned that in a comment to one of the Meta questions.
Ami
Ami
04:16
I'm more interested in the question: what qualifies as poor quality.
Well that's just it. It seems so obvious to me that I find it difficult to elucidate. There have been concerns that moderators might try to suppress questions in the non-Western tradition. Certainly I wouldn't, even though that's the area with which I am most familiar. There needs to be room for a rich variety of all philosophic traditions. The questions I have a problem with are those that are very open-ended and prompt discussion, rather than Q&A.
Those questions which ask "What do you think...?" or that are so open-ended that I can't imagine a single answer could ever address the subject. The analogy I've seen a couple of times and think is very useful is that these are those questions you might see asked as "discussion" questions in a bad undergraduate philosophy class. Those who have sat through those classes aren't yearning for that experience again.
Ami
Ami
Do you teach philosophy?
They might be useful introductory questions to someone who knows nothing about philosophy, because they revolve around well-known issues that anyone could concoct an opinion about, but they're not interesting to students of philosophy.
Eh, not formally. I've coached forms of debate, though, which revolve around philosophical questions.
Ami
Ami
you studied philosophy in college?
No. Actually, I'm still in college, but have never been a phil major nor taken any related classes of significance. I'm actually a biochem major.
Ami
Ami
04:26
cool
Yeah, so I'm really kind of a strange person. I have no formal training in philosophy, but most of my exposure to it has been pretty academic. I've read all the books and articles that a major might have read, but with the intent of applying them to competitive debate. But I've tried to divorce myself from my own background in defining what's best for this site.
Ami
Ami
and you develop software?
Well, as a hobby. I don't work for a software company. I just taught myself a couple of programming languages for fun.
05:03
@GeorgeEdison :) my participation here will be... interesting :)
Ami
Ami
I'm underwhelmed by the answers to this great question:
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Q: Is a language its dictionary?

Dan BrumleveA dictionary defines words in a language, in terms of other words in that same language. An English dictionary is not the same as a Spanish dictionary, simply because the sets of English words and Spanish words are not the same. Dictionaries are revised over time, new words are added and old wo...

which is actually something I've been wondering a lot about recently
Is meaning in language nothing more than a circuitous tautology of definitions?
@CodyGray To be clear, there are two positions I've taken. 1) That we shouldn't close questions. Because I personally don't mind the discussion-style questions, and I doubt that there are enough academics on this site to justify catering to their preferences exclusively.
@CodyGray 2) That we should simply decide one way or the other if we're going to be allowing discussion-oriented questions or not.
Even if the decision is not #1, if #2 happens, and a decision is made, I'll be happy.
Too many people seem to think that we can have SOME discussion-style questions, so when we're talking about clear rules about closure, we end up with anything but.
Avoiding closure is MY suggestion to that problem, but regardless, I think it's more important that a problem exists and we solve it clearly and consistently.
The problem with speaking as a character AND a narrator is that people can't easily tell which I'm doing and when.
:)
 
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Jez
Jez
22:49
@JosephSpiros I'm with you on #1. A philosophy site where all questions have to have clear, objective answers, seems like it'll be a little short on... content.
Joe
Joe
23:20
@JosephSpiros are you still on this? off-topic questions should be closed. it's a basic SE principle.
I'm agreed on #2. But avoiding closures will make this impossible and virtually guarantees the failure of the site.

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