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The Farmer

00:28

Q: Warm clothing options for vegans

I’m unable to find vegan wool and I don’t like purchasing petroleum based products. What can I wear to keep warm?

10 hours later…

David S

10:04

ha, I forgot there's a question about vegan BDSM products

avazula

@DavidS just saw it too haha

"I want to hurt people but not animals" xD

David S

hahah :D

I didn't open the link here because I didn't want it on my work computer history :D

avazula

yeah, me neither ._.

David S

oh you weren't quoting the question?

hm, I wonder what my coat ffilling is made of, I don't remember

polyester fleece

avazula

@DavidS Nah, I was just picturing what could be their motive :p

My coat contains wool... It's an old one

David S

10:18

Yeah, I had things that were wool but eventually I decided to donate them and buy new things

I don't think there's anything wrong with wearing the things you have

I just get a bit obsessive.

but then I drive a car and it's hard to get all the animals out of that.

if I never had to drive mum anywhere I might be tempted to get rid of the car.

I don't need it

avazula

@DavidS I think I managed to do that

I bought a car recently and made sure nothing had leather in it

but there's probably animal products hidden somewhere I guess

David S

There's schemes where you can hire cars that you can just pick up whenever you want

yeah tyres for a start I'm afraid

made with tallow in the rubber

hoses in the engine bay

I'm pretty sure the suede on the trim of the seats in my car is fake but the steering wheel is real leather.

but then it's not a new car, that somehow makes it better

avazula

it's hard to escape leather stuff.

I manage to find a couple of brands that make shoes from plastic

it's far from being ecofriendly, but at least I don't wear leather.

David S

my "smart" shoes are from vegetarian shoes in brighton

I'm currently wearing a pair of Asics that were advertised as vegan, and I'm eyeing a pair of Merrell's from their vegan range to replace a worn out pair I had

All the vegan shoes seem to be for girls.

avazula

10:41

that's true

3 hours later…

Zanna

13:50

@TheFarmer seems dupe?

avazula

@Zanna it's at least very similar

Zanna

maybe they will agree

checked the queue and voted for your dupe suggestion

avazula

@Zanna I did flag it? Darn I don't remember doing so ._.

Zanna

We have to eat something and these questions like "omg ploughing kills worms so clearly any deliberately grown crop is not vegan" just makes me think people will give up and eat meat

avazula

@Zanna oh, we're not talking about the same question ...

David S

13:55

I don't think the person asking the question about 'how do we justify growing vegetables' was trolling.

Zanna

@avazula sorry not that question, I was referring to this one about pesticides

@DavidS neither do I

David S

I'm getting mixed up now

Zanna

sorry :(

going to sweep the floor

David S

argh, I didn't mean it was your fault though

Zanna

hopefully that won't upset anyone except these wispy spiders that seem to be everywhere in my house right now XD

@DavidS no worries :)

David S

13:58

wispy spiders! \o/

the only kind that are fine

Zanna

hahaha yeah there are some fat little jumping ones that bother me a bit

David S

yikes

i dont mind spiders I can pick up

so that means, so light you can't feel them

heavy spiders go in a duster (whether they are fast or slow)

Zanna

haha I catch them with a cup and take them outside

David S

reminds me of a bill bailey sketch

skippy619

14:57

started buying new bedding for my new house, and halfway through I was like ahhh -- no wool no wool no wool

David S

hah

it took me so long to buy new pillows because I was thinking "no feathers no feathers no feathers"

Luckily there's a lot of 'wool' throws and things that are actually cotton or polyester

and you get into the whole thing about cotton production being bad in terms of pollution and being bad for the health fo the people working there

so then you have to go organic (well you dont have to but if you get into it too much you start to think these things)

nightmare

skippy619

15:24

yikes

all my cotton clothes in general shrink so much that I've become a fan of tri-blend stuff with mostly rayon/polyester

so what I'm hearing is: a true vegan is a naked vegan

David S

no because you'd still be stepping on ants and thinsg with your naked feet

so a true vegan is a dead vegan

skippy619

haha

but is cremation vegan?

David S

oh man

You should ask the question!

Is cremation vegan

skippy619

maybe I'll just start a vegan funeral company

David S

haha, but what a depressing thought

I don't know how anyone can get into that business.

It's a great service they provide but man I'd fucking kill myself.

at which point I'd need a vegan funeral company

wouldn't have to go far at least

Zanna

15:39

they charge an arm and a bloody leg that's what it is

David S

I suppose that's right.

I never thought about money, I've never been able to relate to people choosing what to study at university based on what will make them money.

Surely this is your chance to study something you are interested in to a high level.

then you worry about work later.

this is why I'm not a doctor or a lawyer or a dentist or a funeral director I suppose

skippy619

agreed

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