sorry all, I completely crashed out when I got home
@Niitaku I can see others commented on your question - I wish I had had the energy to explain my issues with it earlier, but I will try now anyway here and perhaps make a meta post of my comments if it seems worthwhile
For one thing, nutritional requirements are far from universal. Consider a few people: a 38 year old female distance-runner; a 82 year old man with low mobility; a seven year old who likes football, karate and climbing up the walls; a person recovering from a long illness which affected their digestive system...
these people could have very drastically different nutritional requirements
if you provided all your vital statistics and lifestyle details in order to get an accurate recommendation (a nutrition plan, as a professional might provide for you)
then it would not be a good Stack Exchange question, because it would not be useful to others
it can't be the purpose of the site to provide individual tailored health advice for each visitor, right?
That problem aside, asking about nutrition requirements per meal is asking for something artificial and restrictive. You can consider macronutrient requirements per day, but you should consider requirements over the course of a week or so for micronutrients, so it would be very complicated to answer your question well, probably it would just be too long for anyone to read.
I would have said yesterday, you could pick a nutrient and ask EITHER how much you should be trying to get OR how you can get it in a vegan diet. Since you did that, and settled for protein, I think it would be a better question if you asked "how can I determine how much protein I need?"
@Fabby I'm aware of the collateral (I'm pretty sure vegans think about such things more than omnivores in general. The reason I collect quips is that I find these kinds of arguments with omnivores to be a waste of spoons.
My guiding principle is Ahimsa. I don't want to do violence to myself and other humans by prolonging an acrimonious argument. I will raise awareness about the benefits of veganism if I can do so in a non-violent way
I don't want to be coercive or dominating, and neither do I want to allow anyone to troll me or make me do emotional work for them (because surely some omnivores disparage vegans to make themselves feels better)
thus I would rather gracefully or humorously turn the argument on its head and put the onus on the omnivore to justify their choices and/or be lighthearted than plough into a detailed philosophical exposition which is sure to be wasted on the hearer.
@Zanna Thank you very much for your feedback on this question. I understand why it is still too broad or too specific for a person in particular. And don't feel bad for not having done that earlier, you were not obliged to do it in first place. :) I'm taking your advice and I'll asked a new question upon closing the current one.
if I were a mod, I would close and reopen your question after editing, to get rid of the close votes, but we should be able to fix it without mod powers as we are a nice tight little community at the moment and everyone has close vote privileges in beta
with regards to your excellent answer to Riker's meta question about the vegan tag, I need to get 200 more reputation to be able to make a tag synonym so I'd better answer some questions XD
As I'm going vegan, I would need to replace protein sources from meat to other vegetal products. When I was eating meat, I didn't pay any attention to how much protein I ate. But in a vegan diet, I feel that I would have to look at it a bit closer.
I'm then wondering:
How I can determine how ...
I was reading an horrible news on a french association website: A pig mistreated left for dead in a farming trash and in the cold. It was agonizing, in hypothermia with serious bloody wounds. It was screaming in pain. A vet was mandated by the association to help the animal that was finally freed from that pain because of irreversible physical and neural sequela .
@Turion I edited my post in response to your comment, apologies for being vague. Perhaps that information is not relevant, and so the entire clause is just noise in my post. I tend to ramble a bit.
@Turion I would keep the question as it is now as it seems more better received by the community. However, I would keep the answer as it is. It is still useful (I up voted it)
@Zanna, I think it's relevant because it's a motivation for the question. When I read your question, I immediately had to think about Wales (sorry, very typical prejudice)
@Niitaku, ok, I'll vote for reopen nevertheless.
@Zanna, can I ask you where you are based in the UK? (I used to live in Nottingham for 3 years)
Oh really? I live in London (I believe it's in my profile) but I'm from Gainsborough which is on the Trent, in Lincolnshire but on the border with Nottinghamshire. I know Nottingham quite well - maybe you've been to the Alley Cafe?
They've reduced their opening hours, but in the Angel pub, which is also in the city centre (up Lace market somewhere), the same kitchen team is serving food now, and it's really good!
I can recommend it for the next time you're in Nottingham ;)
York is one of the places I missed out on when I lived in the UK... a shame it seems
@Zanna I've added a subquestion to your wool question (which I find great). I'm wondering whether that's good practice, or whether my question is essentially a duplicate of yours?
And I've added a "wool" tag. Maybe it's too narrow, then we can delete it again.
@Turion I only saw this message now. I think we need to let @Niitaku maneuver the question as they please. If you edit the question to fit the answer, someone else might feel discouraged to provide a better answer.
And, people, I really need you to post stuff, I still have over 20 upvotes to spend! ;)
Vitamin D supplements, of course! There's this endless discussion on D2 vs. D3, maybe we can settle that. And then there's the question of vegan D3 supplements.
I've been vegetarian for 10 years and vegan for roughly 4 years. I'm feeling great. I used to have a neighbour who was vegan for at least ten years, he's very athletic, friendly, enthusiastic and looks very healthy.
yeah tell me about it, first thing I do every morning on AU is use up my precious delete votes (actually the only reason I do that first is that I have to do it before reviewing low quality posts, otherwise they all get used up in the queue). But we don't have anything that needs deleting yet I think :)
people come to AU to get help. Some of them are completely clueless and also have no interest in learning how to use SE, while is totally fine, but means we have to make major efforts to curate and moderate it into the awesomeness that it is
I think you said to Fabby that you only became veg*n the day the beta started, so I was curious about what made you decide to do that, or follow the proposal, or join the site. If you want to share (you really don't have to) I would be interested to know about any of those things haha
@Zanna hey! That's awesome! What is the reason you want to learn it? I'm pretty good at spoken Tamil, but my reading skills are like a five year old. Anyway, let me know if you need any help.
For written Tamil there's a great online course called Tamil Digest. It's how I learned how to read. If I would have finished the course I would probably be better at reading.
As I'm going vegan, I would need to replace protein sources from meat to other vegetal products. When I was eating meat, I didn't pay any attention to how much protein I ate. But in a vegan diet, I feel that I would have to look at it a bit closer.
I'm then wondering:
How I can determine how ...
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