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09:26
Sounds like a challenge for PPCG: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1218899/…
09:38
In number theory, a formula for primes is a formula generating the prime numbers, exactly and without exception. No such formula which is efficiently computable is known. A number of constraints are known, showing what such a "formula" can and cannot be. == Formula based on Wilson's theorem == A simple formula is f ( n ) = ⌊ n ! mod ( ...
 
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12:42
@flawr am I misunderstanding how the teleporter works or is there no point to it being toroidal?
@PhiNotPi if it was a square, you could go to the corner
as far as spherical vs toroidal, I have no idea
Is Science the knowledge of what is around us? Please give your opinion. I request you.
13:00
@NathanMerrill my point was that if you could teleport anywhere, the palace is basically random-access and it doesn't matter how the rooms are physically arranged.
You still get to choose where the teleport goes
and the corner is a marking. It means that you can use it to find your partner
Okay that makes sense.
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MvGRendezvous palace optimization Introduction This comes from a well-liked question on the Math SE by RobAu and a more specific follow-up to that by Danikov. There is a palace which is a grid of n × n rooms, which we will index using two coordinates 0 ≤ x,y < n. The rooms are organized in a toru...

13:25
@flawr hey, why does this get starred when you post it? :P
I really wish they'd reach the final stretch goal, but another 90k dollars in 5 days seems unlikely
13:40
Especially because its no longer on the front page of reddit
13:54
@MartinEnder Well, he linked to the Kickstarter itself...
14:29
@MartinEnder oh did you link it before?
probably because you already have enough stars :)
@El'endiaStarman ah, on the floor :)
If you also consider paragliders as aircraft, then differential braking is also applied while flying=)
@MartinEnder oh nice=)
@flawr Oh, lol, I didn't think to clarify that I meant on the ground. Aircraft do turn by other means in the air. :P
Sometims they apparently use differential thrust:
@flawr yeah a couple of weeks ago when the kickstarter had just started, but like El'endia said I shared an article about it, not the kickstarter itself
Ah I must have missed that
 
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18:27
Consider a car with tires enumerated 1 to 4. Let alpha_i be the angle at which the valve of tire i is. Consider four arbitrary reals delta_i. Is it possible to find a finite path on the plane for the car to drive along such that for every tire i the valve is at angle alpha_i + delta_i?
18:40
@MartinEnder All the things in the final stretch goal sound like things they will probably do shortly afterwards whether they reach the target or not, so there's still hope...
18:52
@flawr So the problem is, given the angles of 4 tires of a car, does a matching path exist for the car?
Yep:)
19:13
select the center of a square car
have all tires face towards the center
20:01
I think the 'matching path' for any wheel configuration has to be a circle. Since the wheels are fixed relative to the car the curvature of the path must be constant, right?
And, if the path is a circle, I think the path of each wheel must also be a circle, and the wheel paths must be concentric.
Which means, in order for a path to exist, lines drawn perpendicular to each wheel must all meet at a single point (the center of the circle).
(Edge case: point at infinity in the case of straight wheels)
@flawr ^
20:26
Ah I did not define that: You are allowed to turn the steering wheel!
20:48
we need a better definition than that: Does the steering wheel turn the two front wheels the same angle?
is each wheel independent?
Hm I didn't think about that. Actually we would need the axis of all the wheels to meet in one point, otherwise we would have slipping.
So either the axis are parallel or they meet in one point.
21:20
@flawr Real cars avoid wheel slippage via differential gears.
The way I interpret the question is: given a square, can this square be translated and rotated such that the paths traced out by the vertices have lengths equal to given values, modulo 2*pi?
@El'endiaStarman I mean sideways slip
@El'endiaStarman yep, exactly
@flawr Oh, I see, yeah.
My gut is that any modulo will suffice.
 
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23:25
@El'endiaStarman how is this the same question?
Nvm, I misinterpreted the original problem, angle of the wheel = the pitch, not the yaw
23:45
Yeah, that's what I understood from him mentioning the valves on the tires.
23:58
I think this strategy suffices: angle the "car" to some degree and then rotate it around some point. Pick the angle such that the distances from each vertex to the rotation point have irrational ratios with respect to each other. As you rotate the car around that given point, there will be some point (ha!) where the distances traveled modulo 2*pi give the desired angles.

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