hello @amWhy @projectilemotion @user21820

@user400188: Hello! =)

Today I learned not to underestimate how long a lab report can take.

Ah.

Are you a perfectionist?

I am one, and it takes me hours on even short reports haha..

exactly. I cant help but write the whole thing multiple times before I hand it in.

its only 5 pages, but i think its been 4 hours so now.

The one I did earlier for a different unit took over 8 hours...

Haha don't worry; all of us perfectionists are like that. Other people just spend an hour at most and that's it. There are advantages for us though; we tend to be very satisfied with our work, and we allocate more than enough time to finish something so we don't do last-minute work.

Thats true, however it conflicts with the workplace J.I.T. methodology. Personally I think our way of doing things is very effective, but to go one higher (effective and efficient) we would need to drop a lot of our previous habits.

I'm not about to change, however I expect some consequences in the future.

@user400188 Hello, how are you doing?

@user400188 This is the first time I've heard of workplace JIT, but I place very little value in corporate strategies. After all, squeezing the most money out of people is not the kind of endeavour that I want. It's true that not many companies satisfy my liking.

@projectilemotion Not too bad. I've been drifting through a bunch of different mood swings recently though. Everything I am learning right now is interesting, even wonderful, however its a struggle to find the time to learn (or complete) it all in time.

@user21820 In engineering, its standard practice not to order the parts until the last second; because it saves storage space. Your design has to be ready on time for the delivery and it has t work first time or it wont fit in the facility.

@user400188 But one can do prototyping, right?

Perhaps. To be honest, any deeper than the surface is where my knowledge ends on the subject.

o/

@user21820 T_T Sad life sometimes

@SimplyBeautifulArt Heheh.. wait till you get to university. =P

You mean this one?

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/64131/mse-university

Oh, and I did a thing relating to some mix between the fast growing hierarchy and the Ackermann function @user21820

@SimplyBeautifulArt Har har.. For a moment I didn't get what you meant. =D

:P

@user21820 @amWhy Amin is back

welcome back to the realm @SimplyBeautifulArt

o/

welcomed welcomed

lol

@SimplyBeautifulArt Um I had forgotten about that user already lol...

@user21820 @amWhy @user400188 Say, wanna just ignore amin?

In all honesty, we can always check back later

But if noone says anything, nothing will every happen and the room will probably die naturally

I would, as I did previously, but I'll flag any disruptive posts of his/hers. As long as he/she doesn't come to the Logic room or this room, it's unlikely that I would bother.

lol, yeah

Perhaps we could lurk in there all day and never say anything

@SimplyBeautifulArt @user400188: Let's try something funny for fun. Just follow what I do there. It should be obvious what it is. =D

=D Okie dokie then

See it? =D

Lol

@user21820 Are we allowed to favorite the periods?

I was going to do that as well! =D =D

This is comic relief for us hahahaha..

xD

@amWhy Come help us favorite all the useless stuff

Goodnight @SimplyBeautifulArt @user21820

@user21820 Hm, it seems he is moving lots of stuff from the original room

Goodnight @user400188 and good morning @projectilemotion

@user400188: Good night! =)

Lack of notifications means you did not solve that integral? @projectilemotion

@SimplyBeautifulArt Good afternoon

:P

Well, I didn't solve it yet

:P

Though I did come across another integral which I found difficult to prove

lol

@SimplyBeautifulArt Well of course he's quoting all those comments that support him, and none of those that don't. It's the typical behaviour of cranks anyway.

Yeah

Anyway I need to go do something for a while. See you around!

@user21820 cya

@SimplyBeautifulArt $$\int_0^{\infty} \frac{(3-\sqrt{8}\cos(\ln(2)t))Z(t)^2}{t^2+\frac{1}{4}}~dt$$

Where $Z(t)$ is the Riemann-Siegel Z function

It's closed form apparently is $\pi\ln(2)$, but I was off by a factor of $\frac{1}{2}$.

:|

Wondering if I'm missing something..

I'm not sure off the top of my head, but I think the integrand is even

It is

therefore, do an integral over the entire real line and possibly consider applying a semi-circle contour

I used that property, and tried applying the residue theorem with a semi-circle contour on the upper half plane

Lol, we had exactly the same thought

Huh, okay

Well, that looks like the right solution

I mean, the right way to the solution

It came up on the Wolfram Functions Site: functions.wolfram.com/ZetaFunctionsandPolylogarithms/…

Huh, interesting

Out of curiosity, to check if I computed the residue correctly, I went on wolfram alpha and 'asked' it to find the residues

Though apparently it didn't find any poles

lol

@user21820 An interesting chain of events has happened.

O.O @user21820 @amWhy Well, now a mod has removed the room owner status of amin from his "planning MSE"

@SimplyBeautifulArt Hmmmmm. Interesting...

o/

@user21820 @ParamanandSingh @projectilemotion Say, if any of you are around, would you take a look at this answer of mine? Would like some critiquing.

@SimplyBeautifulArt I'd gently nudge you towards learning basic logic, after which you won't ever need to ask for critiquing of your reasoning again. =)

@user21820 :-) Okay lol

Hmm my comment is still valid after your edit. $y$ is still undefined on the right-hand side of the first line.

Pooey lol, how about $\forall y(0<|y-a|<\delta\implies\dots)$?

Oh and if you start on the logic textbook forall x you have @user400188 to accompany you. =)

Hello, @SimplyBeautifulArt, @user21820, et al. Slept in today! :)

@amWhy that's good to hear

(tried to spell hear three times, typed "here", then "hare", then "heer" D:)

@amWhy Hi! Ah nice. Good to see you, though just before I go off haha..

@SimplyBeautifulArt What useless staff (Come help us favorite all the useless stuff) ? Where? On main; I already do sometimes (deleted posts, e.g.) so I can access links back to them.

@user21820 Nice to see you too!

@SimplyBeautifulArt Lmao!

@amWhy lol

See all the starred useless posts

@SimplyBeautifulArt Hahaha! Hilarious!

@amWhy We were starring all the useless messages in the room. =P

Well not all, just a few hehe.

@user21820 Schools should teach certain programming languages and logic and count them as second languages so I don't have to go learn chinese ._.

Hahaha!

Which country are you in that requires chinese as a second language?

@user21820 Its not required as my second language, but something is, so I chose chinese

Ahh I see. Actually I think programming should be compulsory heh.

@SimplyBeautifulArt (Sorry for eavesdropping). That makes a lot of sense these days. Though there are still a lot of graduate programs in math that require reading proficiency in French or German, or as relevant to the literature pertaining to one's thesis. But I think at the undergrad level, it's becoming pretty universal these days to allow programming language, and always at the grad level in math.

I know a bit of chinese but it's an outdated language in my opinion, somewhere between Egyptian hieroglyphics and Hebrew.

As for French, yea as amWhy says some papers are only in French, and those who can read it don't want to translate them, and many French mathematicians still publish solely in their favourite language.

@amWhy O.O

@user21820 Well, not everyone can read English, so I can't complain.

@SimplyBeautifulArt True; so much of the world is bilingual at least (learning their native language and English), many others being multiple-lingual.

Say, has anyone seen @shredalert ?

@SimplyBeautifulArt No even some who are fluent in English don't want to use it. It is partly French linguistic pride.

@user21820 xD Well okay then

I can't verify my claim though, but I heard it from my mathematics professor who does algebraic number theory.

I haven't seen shredalert in the recent few days. Anyway I need to go off now. So see you and @amWhy next time!

@user21820 cya again lol

@user21820 You're right; I haven't either. Cya!!

@SimplyBeautifulArt I've missed @shredalert too. And what happened to @zophikel, too? I've missed him and it's been a while now since I've seen him.

Yeah. Where's all the people!?

@Mithrandir o/

hey

I have to run, though - was just dropping in

@Mithrandir Go run!! :)