« first day (132 days earlier)      last day (1834 days later) » 

7:05 PM
Woo, podcaaaaaaaaaaaaast!
 
7:24 PM
room topic changed to SE Podcast Live Chat: livestream.com/stackexchange / Next Episode: Tuesday 10/11 @ 4:00pm EDT w/ guest Paul Biggar (no tags)
 
7:51 PM
Really. Podcast right when I begin downloading something huge.
 
Nip
Who should we address questions to this week?
 
@Nip that would be me!
 
Her.
 
Nip
@Abby thanks.
 
Hmm... I can watch the podcast... or download this thing.
 
7:52 PM
much better music this week, IMO!
 
good afternoon everyone
 
Gaftoon
 
@AbbyΨ Could still be improved.
 
Nip
@Abby in reviewing the slides that Paul put together for Dev Days 2011 the finale slide reads "Design the next scripting language right", does he see any specific group/entity being able to tackle this?
 
Hello everyone! =]
 
7:59 PM
Hello all
 
@Hellonearthis Hi there.
 
Hi, live show, exciting
 
Needs more Muzak.
 
i take back what i said about the music.
 
@Abby Is anything going to change/be put into place in terms of staff-community interaction since the whole gaming-grant fiasco?
 
8:02 PM
It's a fiasco now?
 
@GnomeSlice is that a question for me, or for Joel/Jeff/Paul?
 
I see you waited a whole -2 minutes into the podcast to bring that up again
 
@Brant Um. Yes.
@AbbyΨ I thought we were supposed to direct them to you? (Yes, it's for them).
@MichaelMrozek I've been here for like 6 minutes, thank you very much. ಠ_ಠ
 
@GnomeSlice yes that's correct, i just didn't know if you wanted me to answer it or not. will forward it along
 
8:03 PM
has the podcast started as I am still getiing music
 
Oct 4 at 20:59, by Rebecca Chernoff
...and like I said earlier, not really podcast material.
 
...I was just looking for that.
Heh.
 
FGITW
 
@MichaelMrozek How so?
 
It's the @AlexMiller show, with special guests @JoelSpolsky, Jeff Atwood, and Paul Biggar!
 
8:04 PM
Community-Staff interaction isn't work talking about?
 
@GnomeSlice What do you want to talk about? Jeff talked about it in some detail on the post itself
250 free business cards from vistaprint?!
 
dating cards!
mommy cards!
thanks, pandora!
 
@MichaelMrozek He talked a little bit about the actual situation, but a lot of users weren't really happy with the way he handled it. I'm just wondering if the community team is going to start having more weight to throw around or something to prevent this kind of thing from happening again.
 
@AbbyΨ My god, it even has a watermark!
 
@GnomeSlice I don't think the community team is ever going to have the ability to stop Jeff from doing something
 
8:06 PM
@MichaelMrozek That's not precisely what I was getting at.
 
Would it have been better if the same post had been from one of them instead of Jeff?
 
@MichaelMrozek No.
Just forget it. I'm sorry I asked.
 
@MichaelMrozek I don't think Jeff has the ability to stop Jeff if he's doing something. And I agree that having the topic in the podcast wouldn't do any good,.
 
user30
The thing was... Jeff's post just said the grant is bad because I think it's bad
 
user30
plus the actual post has been deleted now
 
8:08 PM
Sweet, didn't miss it
 
Not sure how discussions about the actual community of SE are off-topic, but I appear to be outnumbered on that one.
 
Yes. Keep Alex in the background :P <3
 
The harder it is to hear @AlexMiller, the better the podcast becomes
2
 
Hah. Jeff isn't even there.
 
awh - sushed to the background
 
8:10 PM
@MichaelMrozek And no, my point was that nobody in the Community team actually seemed to really have any more idea of what was going on than we did.
 
@GnomeSlice So you're saying he should keep them more up-to-date? That's sane
 
Turns off SE Podcast <3 PHP.
 
Oh, he did keep us up to date.
 
@MichaelMrozek ...Sort of. I don't think I'm explaining this correctly.
 
@MarcoCeppi Hahah
 
8:12 PM
At any rate, it doesn't matter. Just forget I asked.
So many times.
 
@GnomeSlice I tried, until you brought it up again about 2 minutes later :)
 
@MichaelMrozek I remembered that I hadn't replied to that message of yours.
What's Paul's accent?
 
user30
Irish. I think
 
In computability theory, Rice's theorem states that, for any non-trivial property of partial functions, there is no general and effective method to decide whether an algorithm computes a partial function with that property. Here, a property of partial functions is called trivial if it holds for all partial computable functions or for none, and an effective decision method is called general if it decides correctly for every algorithm. The theorem is named after Henry Gordon Rice, and is also known as the Rice-Myhill-Shapiro theorem after Rice, John Myhill, and Norman Shapiro. Introduction ...
 
user30
It analyses drivers, I listened to a talk on it at cambridge uni in the summer...
 
8:15 PM
I didn't actually stop listening :(
 
user30
 
@MarcoCeppi I knew it
 
Is it just me or is the volume really low?
 
@Brant It's always like that. Up your machine's system volume.
 
@Brant I wouldn't mind a little more volume
 
8:15 PM
not just you Brant
 
No you suck @Joel
 
Snap
So, it's just Joel and Paul this week?
 
Where's Jeff this week?
 
@NickBerardi Joel just said he was 'on vacation'.
 
Running late apparently
 
8:17 PM
Sounded like he was hoping to get him on skype or something, but it doesn't look like he's going to be showing up.
 
PHP loves making it easy for the programmer. Where "it" is things like SQL injection and filesystem vulnerabilities
high-fives @MarcoCeppi
 
Keeps me employed! :D
 
user30
and demotivated!
 
Fixing lazy developers code, day after day
 
You get a variant! You get a variant! EVERYBODY gets a variant!
 
Can't ban blues...
 
I always thought register globals was a terrible thing to whine about. PHP has lots of horrors; register globals causes no security vulnerabilities unless you're insane
 
Jin
i can't take that gif anymore..
 
I thought that @Brant was making an Oprah joke - sooo
 
Hey, you can't say that on SE podcast!
 
8:23 PM
It was entirely plausible that he is
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
Mommy, Paul made a swear!
 
This sounds really interesting; I wish I could hear more than 5 seconds at a time. Thanks Livestream!
 
He can get away with it thanks to that awesome accent.
 
MY VIRGIN EARS.
 
8:24 PM
anyone have a link to the book in question?
 
+1 more curse words
 
damn!
 
thanks, friends!
 
And Mrozek wins!
 
8:25 PM
I wonder if you could rewrite GCC in JavaScript.
 
@AbbyΨ You're welcome?
 
With C++ 0x, it seem slike C++ is getting a lot of the good stuff from managed languages, but maintainging 'pay for play' performance
where you only take a performance hit if you're using a particular feature in some code
 
Don't forget to direct questions you'd like relayed to Alex's computer screen at me.
3
 
Lambdas, new parallel stuffs
 
@Brant How about this? bellard.org/jslinux
 
Say they're idiots, Joel! Say it!
I want to see Marco cry by the end of this
 
That's not very nice.
 
Scheme with curly braces!
 
It's because the first developers aren't going to do it the way developers years later are going to do it.
 
8:30 PM
I never have ideas for languages for programming
 
And the early tools are going to catch on when they come out.
 
I'm never like "C++ would be better with X"
or English for that matter
 
Is this leading up to google dart?
 
I'm never like, "You know what English really needs? Thou"
 
People read configure scripts?
 
8:31 PM
"Oh man, english would be so much better if it had you singular like French" -- Things I never say
 
Oh man, configure scripts.
 
4
Q: Comparing list length with arrows

Dan BurtonInspired by Comparing list length If I want to find the longest list in a list of lists, the simplest way is probably: longestList :: [[a]] -> [a] longestList = maximumBy (comparing length) A more efficient way would be to precompute the lengths: longest :: [[a]] -> [a] longest xss = s...

^most recent haskell question on SO
 
Where does the chatroom say that?
 
3 mins ago, by Hellonearthis
Is this leading up to google dart?
 
Is dart the thing that Google announced last month that was supposed to replace JS?
 
user30
8:34 PM
Anything by a YC company
 
@MichaelMrozek Yeah, that's not asking them about it though.
 
Good point. Somebody tell Joel he's not allowed to discuss things until we've formally asked them
 
Google really needs to stop trying to monopolize absolutely everything.
 
Joel's monitoring the chat room himself, apparently
 
8:35 PM
@AbbyΨ So is Alex, so the Abby -> Alex -> Joel question path you guys have come up with seems a little unnecessary
 
CoffeeScript?! What?!
shakes head
 
@MichaelMrozek do not question THE SPEC!
 
bzzt boop I am a superfluous backup entity bzzzzt
 
When O'Reilly releases a CoffeeScript book we'll have to stop using it.
 
8:36 PM
CoffeeScript seems cool, but I'm too lazy to learn it
 
user30
CoffeeScript is awesome.
 
Ruby?
 
@MarcoCeppi Never
 
user30
@MarcoCeppi Yes.
 
Hipster language?
 
8:37 PM
Hipster#
 
@Nip Yeah, I know what it is, just not why I'd bother to use it. :P
 
Print "I can't be bothered"
 
You appear to be advocating a new:
[ ] functional [ ] imperative [ ] object-oriented [ ] procedural [ ] stack-based
[ ] "multi-paradigm" [ ] lazy [ ] eager [ ] statically-typed [ ] dynamically-typed
[ ] pure [ ] impure [ ] non-hygienic [ ] visual [ ] beginner-friendly
[ ] non-programmer-friendly [ ] completely incomprehensible
programming language. Your language will not work. Here is why it will not work.
 
Nip
@TimStone Oh, well there isn't a quick link I can share to explain that... I don't think it exists.
 
@JoelSpolsky Well, the Stack Exchange sites currently (?) have a transient bug that's related to an issue with the .NET runtime, but... ;)
 
8:39 PM
@TimStone I was just thinking that
I think it's still happening, I saw it in the last month
 
@TimStone actually, it's ASP.NET, but the point stands...
 
which one is this @balpha?
 
@KevinMontrose some concurrency thing when billions of people dare to hit your site simultaneously at app start. or some thing. that's not exactly my area of expertise...
oh, that's kevin
(I just saw "Kevin", didn't realize it's monty)
 
Pretty sure the hashtable one is fixed.
 
8:42 PM
Yeah, that wasn't supposed to sound dickish.
 
I was thrown by his new gravatar too, heh
 
@TimStone Not mine?
 
yeah, I thought it's fixed, too
 
We had a minor regression on... what, web 7? a few weeks ago.
 
@GnomeSlice Well I've seen yours recently
And there's only one GnomeSlice (Highlander-style, I suspect)
 
8:44 PM
Oh man, what was that web 2.0 startup pitch generator...
 
Pft.
Who talks about business at parties...
 
Nip
Speak into a mike or recap please?
 
That's how you pick up the chicks, apparently.
 
damn, why do I keep getting outninja'd
 
8:45 PM
@balpha's continued failure pleases me
 
You guys suck.
 
Robot! WOOOOOOOOO
 
robots! aaaaack!
 
I AM JOEL ROBOT
 
Nip
ROBOT!!!!
 
8:46 PM
Oh dear.
 
Dalek Joel
 
@JoelSpolsky I've heard the NYC VC Scene is more like real-estate agents trying to flip companies, where as in the valley it's all about the next deal (and so relationships are maintained)
 
I AM ROBOT, RUNNING AROUND.
 
user30
EXTERMINATE
 
@JoelSpolsky Quick, say "exterminate"
 
8:46 PM
Why is it always robots?
 
Darth Spolsky
 
@GraceNote Robots are awesome?
 
lol@darth
 
Has somebody poked @AlexMiller?
 
Robots in helicopters!
 
8:47 PM
@Abby ask @AlexMiller to tell @JoelSpolsky to say "Exterminate"
 
Oh, hey, fixed
 
phew
 
it's not even comprehensible anymore
 
Ah. Apparently
 
user30
yay
 
8:47 PM
Robot mode disengage
 
Nip
Ahh no more ROBOT
 
The robots exterminated my Chrome session.
What did I miss?
 
Nip
USE THE MIKE PLEASE
 
Joel told him not to, heh.
 
@Nip I can hear him fine; turn up your volume?
 
8:51 PM
MY VIRGIN EARS.
 
There's that word again!
 
@MichaelMrozek The third guy isn't talking right into his mic.
 
risk aggregation
 
@GnomeSlice what's wrong with "fokking oarsum"?
 
Microsoft started by writing Basic interpreters
 
8:51 PM
@GnomeSlice Yes, and I can hear him fine
 
Nip
@MichaelMrozek I have everything at 100% I believe it was the guy turning the dials isn't using a mike this week.
 
@MichaelMrozek Me too. But we're not everyone.
 
If you had millions of dollars, and nothing is paying any returns, why not put them in VC?
 
What's the URL?
 
8:55 PM
:| did we bring it down? Not loading for me goes to find out why
 
@MarcoCeppi Fine here
 
it took me a few tries but now loads up fine
 
I'm pretty sure it's much faster than punch cards.
 
Gotta give Microsoft props for one thing, their dev tools are always top notch
 
8:57 PM
throws a chair
 
RIP Dev Days
 
Nip
@Brant I'll second that, and give it a +1
 
@MarcoCeppi :(
 
Hmm, jQuery for LLVM...
Sounds like another wacky startup idea.
circleci.com is fast now, it just took a while for the app to wake up.
 
thanks LTS
 
Jin
9:01 PM
James Portnow
 
Note how Joel's can of Punyon Dew is oriented so the label faces the camera. Coincidence? Or paid product placement?
 
looks photoshopped
 
@Brant Punyon Dew
 
9:17 PM
 

« first day (132 days earlier)      last day (1834 days later) »