@taylor I am not good at topology, but if I am not mistaken, applying your “cone operator” to S_n should result in B_{n+1}, not B_n.

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i grew up learning that 'chichi's' were boobs

I thought this was american slang for a long time, and my family and some other friends also thought so

after learning japanese I thought it probably came to hawaii (where i grew up) from japanese

but now i googled it and it appears it is a mexican term, so maybe it entered american slang that way

so now I want to know does 'chichi's' exist widely as american slang?

the normal dictionary is not so helpful here, but urban dictionary is where i got the extra info

@jkerian These are "lun" in Chinese. 論 輪 掄

or 忍 in Hokkien

or 乱 in Cantonese

@jlptn1 I've never heard it before studying japanese

@silvermaple ok thanks

well, that's just my own experience, it might not be the same elsewhere

yeah I wonder if it is used on the west coast

I would guess that if it is used, that's where it would be

how goes jlpt study?

Hello

Long time no see :P

:)

@silvermaple :P

Oh, hey Shazer :)

@jlptn1 it's going

:)

I gave up @ Japanee..

Japanese**

Well, I didn't give up, just have no time.. :(

I'm actually feeling like I'm running out of steam, I'm only doing about 20-30 minutes a day

@Shazer2 :( that's too bad

I had hoped I'd be more confident in my being able to pass by this stage, but I don't think I'm quite there

I just have no time with school :(

@Shazer2 yeah, it's hard to fit it in

especially when studying on your own

Yeah, basically

I wish I chose Japanese at school, but instead I did Economics.. :(

I feel as though if I picked Japanese, it wouldn't really be a subject as I want/wanted to learn it myself anyway.

It'd just be MORE assistance.

are you as passionate about econ as you are japanese?

Nope..

I fail at economics, last exam I got 25%

:(

:(

well, if it isn't something you're passionate about, then it's going to be pretty hard to get it

Well, I don't mind it..

It's just difficult

ha, you don't have to tell me! that all goes way over my head

Hahaha

@Shazer2 It's not working for me. I find my motivation going away when I have to do something in a rigid structure

Oh ok. :/

Having homework and assignments to account for makes it so much less fun

well, I'm going to catch some shut-eye

おやすみなさい

おやすみ～

おやすみ

おやすみなさい

I started reading a novel to help with reading study

but as I got into it, it turns out half of the chapters of the book is written in hiragana only

because in the story there's a genius kid that can write deep stories, but he doesn't know the kanji since he is a kid

but unfortunately for study, hiragana makes it harder to read and I miss out on learning some kanji

i kind of wish they had reverse furigana for these kinds of texts

@jlptn1 There's a theory that babies' babbling is often interpreted as referring to things. This explains why short reduplicated words like /mama/, /papa/, /baba/, /dada/, /nana/, /tɕitɕi/, etc. refer to things babies are interested in, even across unrelated languages (which makes borrowing unlikely).

In this case, parents in multiple cultures seem to have interpreted /tʃitʃi/ as "breasts", i.e. "I want to be fed", presumably by coincidence, and it got established as a word in both Japanese and Mexican Spanish.

For example, these noises are often interpreted as referring to parents, e.g. /mama/ for "mother" in English and Chinese, /papa/ for "mother" in Japanese (subsequently sound-changed to /haha/), ....

Oh, and I forgot /pupu/ and /pipi/.

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@Mechanicalsnail Wow that's interesting

indeed

Is 丸 ever used by itself to mean circle?

@小太郎 Yes, as in 丸をかいてください = Please draw a circle. If you want a perfect circle, then 円 is more suitable though.

Okay, thanks

@ento But 丸/円 is indistinguishable in conversation right?

@Flaw Mmmm, if someone says 丸がかいてある, I won't be sure if it's a wobbly/fuzzy/sketchy/perfect circle. In case of 円がかいてある, it's definitely going to be a clean, perfect circle ○. I think 丸 is a superset of 円.

In any case, 丸 is more frequently used in everyday conversation for referring to circular shapes.

@ento and both aren't read まる?

@gibbon It is true that kanji 円 can also be read as まる, but 円 as a mathematical term is always read as えん. まる is not a mathematical term, whether it is written as 丸 or 円. I am sure that ento is talking about the reading えん of 円.

@TsuyoshiIto I see, thanks. I think this is also what @Flaw was wondering about.

Ooh, yes, I was mentally locked in to thinking in terms of まる vs えん.

Does anyone know how you would say "upvote" and "downvote" in Japanese?

also should this be a question?

age and sage >_>

Not exactly the same... but mostly the same concept from 2ch

as verbs, 上げる　and 下げる?

That's the origin, but they're used by the 2ch software to bump/suppress posts

ah ok

thanks!

'morning snailplane

hi everyone

hey silvermaple

hi silvermaple

Where is Sawa recently?

I dunno, he hasn't been answering thigns

I know O_O

should I stay up till midnight and play mists of pandaria when it launches, or go to bed so I can get up for work tomorrow?

Maybe he's still watching..

As much as I found sawa to be irritating whenever a new user bumped into them, I miss the very active (very good) explanations.

@silvermaple bed

the servers are unlikely to be workable tonight anyways

If you were taking the next few days off, sure... stay up.

agree @jkerian

wonders which statement was agreed with

about Sawa

Even if I did find myself vehemently disagreeing with sawa, about half the time they said anything about English >_>

I try to ignore it and just appreciate that my Japanese questions get answered

but yeah

what do you mean about saying anything about English?

*"said anything about English"

Every once in awhile there would be a very strong statement about "X is offensive in English", or "Y is unnatural English"... which would be blatantly wrong

ah gotcha

is he a native speaker of English?

if not, then that's understandable

kinda

It's understandable to make the mistake... it's a bit strange to be very insistent on it

true

it's tough to completely disagree with that kind of stuff though...since there's no hard fast right or wrong