Japanese Language

Tim

00:36

@snailboat What is Martin's 1975 reference grammar full name? If you recommend it I ight look it up too.

Anonymous

00:51

@Tim A Reference Grammar of Japanese

Andrew Grimm

01:55

@snailboat I ought to have lots of sample questions, but I can't think of one right now, with two exceptions.

One is "Do Japanese people eat pickled fish eyes, like is claimed in "Private Snafu - Outpost"?"

And the other is that I can think of a a geisha-related question or two. But I don't want to be seen as a geisha otaku.

Chocolate

02:46

@AndrewGrimm 「魚の目の漬物」？

どんなの？

@AndrewGrimm ゲイシャオタク・・・ふふふ

@snailboat 前　ほんまや！直線や

へ～～～

近所に「前田」さんがいるから、

表札を見てくるわｗｗｗｗ

Andrew Grimm

03:15

@Chocolate lang8 lang-8.com/424295/journals/…

Skeptics.SE skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/20487/…

YouTube (Warning: sexist, anti-Japanese) youtu.be/vo_YCX01MCQ?t=1m41s

Chocolate

pickled fish eyes with rice... へえ・・・ごはんも一緒に浸けてる・・？？

炊いたごはんに、魚の目玉のお漬物を載せた・・・とか

日本の商品やのにrationとか英語で書かれてるｗｗｗｗ

Kenさんの貼ったレシピのマグロの目玉の料理は、「漬け物」pickles というより、煮つけ・煮物ですね

特に「目玉だけ」を食べたことはないですけど、「鯛のかぶと煮」は、よく食べると思います

cookpad.com/search/…

（これも、漬物じゃなくて煮物ですけどね）

Andrew Grimm

03:42

Maybe the pickling was added in the movie because the Japanese sailors were far away from home.

Chocolate

普通こういう感じだよね

書道でも

まっすぐだねえ・・・

@AndrewGrimm 実際に、そういうrationが存在したかどうか、ググってみたけどわからない。

「魚の目」ってググったら、たくさん、「うおのめ」の話が・・・

さかなのめ＝fish eyeball うおのめ＝a corn on your foot?

Andrew Grimm

03:56

@Chocolate language is weird enough that I could see "fish eyeball" becoming slang for "a corn on your foot" (if that's what you're saying).

jkerian

06:53

I'm always amused by people who feel the need to "Do you know what X eat? They eat ______?" For westerners, a nearly catch-all response might be 'sausage', but basically everyone eats something that other cultures are going to find strange.

@AndrewGrimm I've definitely eaten fish eyeball while I've been here, so I don't find the idea of having them pickled to be all that strange.

Andrew Grimm

07:46

@jkerian tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ForeignQueasine

jkerian

@小太郎: Regarding your question about the suicide notes/message from the dead... I actually just ran across one in a manga. 「ぼくがしんだら、おまえがこれをみつけてくれると思っていたよ... ぼくを殺す人達のことを、ここに書いておく...」

Andrew Grimm

@jkerian at what kind of eateries are you most likely to see fish eyeball?

jkerian

erm... the seafood kind

sorry... not really sure how to describe it other than that

I think it was this fish: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splendid_alfonsino

Might have been the one that came before it, though

I don't regularly eat it mostly because... eeps... that place was expensive

Andrew Grimm

@jkerian was it a "special occasion" style eatery?

jkerian

I have a hard time telling... sometimes. I don't think so, though.

Well... maybe... not sure what you mean by that.

It wasn't a fancy place. But every table did have an individual little room... so it may mostly cater to groups who are celebrating.

(But then... a local soba place is setup the same way)

Andrew Grimm

07:59

@jkerian I was kind of wondering whether it was "The place is poor value for money" or "Oh yeah, it's more expensive, but there's legitimate reasons for that".

jkerian

ahh... I think it was just that particular fish that was quite expensive

Andrew Grimm

Just one fish, or the restaurant in general?

Chocolate

@jkerian 高いのなら、きっとそれは、マグロ・・・

jkerian

@AndrewGrimm honestly... not entirely sure... company paid for it

Chocolate

料亭とか・・・

Andrew Grimm

08:02

@jkerian nice.

Chocolate

@jkerian 金目鯛！？そんなに高級じゃないな・・・ｗｗｗ

jkerian

@Chocolate Yeah... I know

The preparation was supposedly very different

dunno

Looks like there's more than a few options on prep: ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

Andrew Grimm

The red colour makes it look demonic to me!

jkerian

yeah... it wasn't kinmedai... it was the one before it

(whose name I don't remember at all)

Chocolate

08:24

@AndrewGrimm へえ！そうなんだあｗｗｗｗ

まあ、エビもカニも赤いし、私は平気ｗｗｗｗ

Andrew Grimm

09:02

In Japan, can you have a boy named すえ?

Chocolate

「すえ」って、男の子の名前では、なさそう・・・

現代では、少なくとも。

昔なら・・・「末吉（すえきち）」とか、いたかも

「すえ」のつく苗字なら、あります、今も。

「末松」さんとか

Andrew Grimm

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Chocolate

09:18

このSueって、「スー」じゃないしねぇ・・・

日本語のページがないっ

Andrew Grimm

Just background on why I was curious about this name in particular.

Hmm - I knew about the T rex named "Sue", but I thought that name was a bit of a joke. I didn't know the discoverer was Sue Hendrickson. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sue_(dinosaur)

Tim