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kinyo

16:37

Because of my poor hearing skills, I pretty much need to watch movies/dramas for which I have the script. Where might I get access to scripts for Japanese movies / tv dramas? I found this site for Studio Ghibli movies: geocities.jp/ohmu2rko

Scripts are harder to find than the movies themselves. So, if I can just get the scripts, then I can probably track down the video.

Chocolate

@kinyo Yes, I hear it's harder to find Japanese dramas/movies with Japanese subtitles than English subtitles

I have tried to find some before for a friend (She said she wanted to see anime) but I could only find this

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Anonymous

@kinyo There are some 字幕 here jpsubbers.x10.mx/Japanese-Subtitles/index.php?p=

Anonymous

And for anime here kitsunekko.net/dirlist.php?dir=subtitles%2Fjapanese%2F

Anonymous

@Chocolate Oh, I liked that drama! :-)

Chocolate

@snailplane Ohhh 踊る大捜査線 is my favorite

kinyo

16:50

I'd never thought about jp subtitles for jp videos. that is a great lead to follow.

Chocolate

Ah but I just noticed it contains a lot of kanji

kinyo

that seems so strange... yes. i noticed all those kanji.

the set of people who can understand spoken japanese, but not read kanji, is (surely?) orders of magnitude larger than the set of people who can read jp, but are not able to speak it.

with a little extra word, those srt files can be what i need. thank you.

Anonymous

Some subtitles use a lot of kanji, even for words you'd normally see in kana in novels and so on

Chocolate

Reading English is easier for me than understanding spoken English

Anonymous

Other subtitles don't use very much

Anonymous

16:55

Reading Japanese is easier for me than understanding spoken Japanese, although I've been working a lot on listening comprehension over the last year :-)

Anonymous

I feel like being able to read along with subtitles has helped a lot.

Chocolate

I usually turn on the English subtitles when I watch a dvd in English

kinyo

actually, i noticed that i am unable to clearly hear many words in a fast english conversation. but, i can kind of guess the words i cannot cleanly hear based on the surrounding words.

Anonymous

Is English your native language, kinyo?

kinyo

yes.

Anonymous

16:58

I think no one has 100% listening comprehension.

kinyo

i agree. if i make an effort to cleanly pronounce every word i say, then of course i speak very slowly.

Anonymous

English has a lot of simplification in pronunciation.

Anonymous

We simplify consonant clusters, reduce or drop vowels entirely, elide entire syllables

kinyo

to be honest, many jp people complain i don't speak quickly enough for them when we talk english...

Chocolate

Ew, they want you to talk quickly?

kinyo

17:00

so, i tell them, if they want me to talk quickly, i can, but my pronounciation degrades quite a bit.

Anonymous

That's normal, though. Clearly enunciated English is the unusual version :-)

Chocolate

I always ask English speakers to speak slowly...

especially on the phone

kinyo

you know, i find that when i speak more slowly, i chose much better words and better grammatical structures.

that is important to me.

Anonymous

Yeah, I think speed has a lot to do with how you choose to phrase things. I find speed effects in how I write on a computer or on paper, too

Anonymous

I think many of us do our best communication when we slow down.

kinyo

17:03

what i REALLY don't like is when a person begins a quickly spoken sentence, stops half-way through, and starts another quickly spoken sentence.

i cannot imagine how a non-native can understand such english. it must be impossible.

of course, when speaking with other native native speakers, such english is quite common. but, speaking in half-sentences in a group that has one, or more, non-natives is bad form i think.

Anonymous

It depends on the speaker. I know non-native speakers of English who are, as far as I can tell, as good as native

kinyo

absolutely.

even so, i think native speakers have a "flow" and "rhythm" that only a native can have.

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kinyo

18:10

@Chocolate Those srt files for "Hotaru-no-Hikari" is everything that I was looking for. I'll tell my friends about that resource. Thank you very much.

Anonymous

18:34

Hehe. Those are the only two really useful subtitle sites I've found.

Anonymous

There are some other sites with transcripts and such, though.