Ye Olde Hat Shoppe

Catija

05:00

Gold hammers only work for dupes, though... right? Maybe dupes don't count?

ColleenV

@Catija Hiya! Yep it was on ELL. I was doing some moderator intervention

David

the ~~waffle~~ taco is so common, it is got to be something pretty easy.

(too late, I'm getting confused)

veryRandomMe

yeah, it should be

Wrzlprmft

@ColleenV Narf, if that’s true, it’ a hat that encourages bad behaviour … Or at least discourages good behaviour like improving the question before it is closed.

Andrew Li

Ok peeps. I setup a google doc for clues if you want. Open to anybody - add as you go

22

Rob

05:03

I thought we proved it was removing 'thanks'?

veryRandomMe

nope, that is disproved

Unless it is answer only

David

@AndrewLi I was going to do that. you ninga'd me :)

@Rob which hat?

Andrew Li

@David :)

Rob

Taco

David

@Rob definitely not, I have not removed any comments, mine or others.

Andrew Li

05:05

I've got to go to bed y'all

David

same

veryRandomMe

night

Andrew Li

Bye o/

ColleenV

@Wrzlprmft I did edit the question before I reopened

Rob

@David Edits, not comments - you edited this: blender.stackexchange.com/revisions/8652/6 and removed thanks

Ah, was quite a while ago, though

ColleenV

05:07

There was an argument brewing - I wanted to fix it, get it out of the review queue and stand it back up again

David

@Rob O, O. yes. yes. in edits. true I did. good catch, see if you can match that with others.

ColleenV

er, not necessarily in that order - sorry it's late for me :)

Andrew Li

Well I can still talk from my phone

Bhargav Rao

Guys testing this out to see if community wins a hat. Click on this stackoverflow.com/questions/41215875/-1

veryRandomMe

It is certainly not removing "Thanks!" from a question, did it on several different ones, no go. It was half an hour ago

Andrew Li

05:08

Is that doc going to official and should you pin it in the chatroom?

David

@BhargavRao what did I just do?

veryRandomMe

sold your soul to the devil, enjoy your reward

Bhargav Rao

I added -1 at the end of the URL to make community win a hat

David

lol good idea.

Wrzlprmft

@ColleenV I did not want to criticise your actions; I totally agree that such a course of action can be useful sometimes – in particular for moderator actions. But the hat also encourages bad behaviour.

Bhargav Rao

05:09

It still hasn't

Rob

I wonder if we can get it a badge, too

Bhargav Rao

Sigh, It doesn't work stackoverflow.com/users/-1/…

Andrew Li

Aww

Wait

The "edit 6 letters" thing doesn't stand

Catija

@BhargavRao Can the community user even get hats?

veryRandomMe

heh

Andrew Li

05:12

Yeah

David

@Catija yes

Rob

It has two already @Catija

Bhargav Rao

@Catija mods can make it wear hats also

Wrzlprmft

But at least it reminds me that I must do my moderator duty and make community wear a hat.

Bhargav Rao

The stack overflow mod queue is empty, So no duties. :D

Andrew Li

05:13

There won't be region specific hats right?

Rob

@BhargavRao Gimme a few mins

Andrew Li

As in if you live <insert place> then you get a hat?

Catija

@BhargavRao Um? How?

veryRandomMe

I still haven't gotten the dev story hat . . .

Rob

@veryRandomMe You need to modify two story items

Wrzlprmft

05:14

@Catija Go to Community’s profile, click on the hat, proceed as normal.

Bhargav Rao

@Catija Go to the community user page and click on the winterbash dashboard. There you can select any hat.

veryRandomMe

@Rob how about all of them multiple times . . .

Catija

Yeah, I don't see the hat on the profile...

David

@veryRandomMe wait about forever, then it will come.

veryRandomMe

I already have D:

almost an hour I think

David

05:17

O, then go back and edit two things (I did nearly everything)

Andrew Li

SO has a 180* one

veryRandomMe

@David k

tried again

Andrew Li

Guys confirmed

180* is close then reopen by the same person

David

stackoverflow.com/users/4115625/danh another 180

Rob

I've done that - no hat

David

05:21

@AndrewLi you have it?

Andrew Li

@David I went digging

veryRandomMe

@AndrewLi ok

Andrew Li

I looked through post timelines

veryRandomMe

heh

Andrew Li

And a user, Danh

Jamal

05:21

I also did that, and no 180.

David

I've been doing that too

Bhargav Rao

Nope stackoverflow.com/posts/41192915/revisions

Andrew Li

He voted to close

then reviewed, edited, then nominated for reopen

veryRandomMe

conspiracy theory: hat servers are down

David

Danh has done a tone of review with CVs could very well be something about

Andrew Li

05:22

All in the queue

David

what is you cast a CV, then retract it?

(something mods can't do)

Andrew Li

Hmm

Catija

Nah. I've gotten a couple on other sites in the last few minutes.

Rob

What about getting something reopened via the queue?

Catija

@David Colleen got it on the site she mods, though.

Rob

05:23

Or a mod flag and retracting..

David

there goes that idea...

Bhargav Rao

Ye olde hate shoppe

Andrew Li

@David Danh's closure and reopening completed 28 minutes ago

Around the time he got the hat

David

which post is that?

I'm lost in tabs

Andrew Li

stackoverflow.com/posts/41143191/timeline

veryRandomMe

05:26

@BhargavRao lol

Rob

Close, edit, reopen?

veryRandomMe

hmm

Rob

Sounds the same as this though

winterbash2016.stackexchange.com/hero-of-questions

veryRandomMe

that's very old

dec 14th

Rob

The edit and reopen isn't, though

31mins ago

David

05:27

@Rob no, note the description there "(that you did not participate in closing)"

veryRandomMe

yeah

the close isn't related then?

David

hay I can try it, @veryRandomMe mind if I play with one of your posts?

Samuel Liew

@Rob Vote to close and reopen same question, both from reviews?

Downgoat

:O I got a Dr. Seuss hat

Andrew Li

Really?

veryRandomMe

05:28

@David pick one of the less good ones plz

David

@Downgoat how and when?

veryRandomMe

@Downgoat oooooh!

David

@veryRandomMe no problem, I'll leave it how it was.

Andrew Li

Darn trickery

Downgoat

@AndrewLi Yea! I have it in my avatar right now :P

Catija

05:29

A Cat in the Hat Hat.

Andrew Li

!

veryRandomMe

yes!

David

@Downgoat Photoshop! dastardly traitor.

Catija

Technically, The Grinch is also Dr. Seuss.

veryRandomMe

true

Downgoat

05:30

@Catija *A Goat in the Hat

veryRandomMe

lel

Andrew Li

Darnit

10kers get "Hero of Questions" so easy

David

@AndrewLi mods even easier :)

Andrew Li

:(

Can we experiment with the 180* one?

Bhargav Rao

@David Laughs in diamond

David

05:33

sure, but you have to find question that really need that action. Dont go closing a question just because you want a hat.

Andrew Li

Yeah

Catija

Yes, abuse of mod powers is not cool.

David

not at all.

Wrzlprmft

@AndrewLi What does 10 k have to do with it?

Andrew Li

@Wrzlprmft They have advanced search tools

to search for reopen:4 then they can just edit and reopen

Bhargav Rao

05:35

@David It's not hard to find bad posts on SO. Haven't done #ModAbuse ever :)

Wrzlprmft

Ah, yeah, that really only applies on larger sites. Also, I think stalking the reopen queue should help a lot.

veryRandomMe

@AndrewLi how does that work?

Andrew Li

@veryRandomMe Searching the site

Catija

Hey @DamkerngT.

Damkerng T.

Hi!

veryRandomMe

05:36

@AndrewLi I just get results for posts with reopen and 4 in them

David

@BhargavRao not saying that anay of us here do. but I dont want SE to shut down the WB, because a few crazies go and do something stupid.

Bhargav Rao

True, Agree with that.

veryRandomMe

yup

Bhargav Rao

And the "Laughs in ..." was a meme, so I used that. I'm sorry if that sounded wrong.

David

ok, really TTFN all

Catija

05:38

Someone got lucky with their gold badge, I guess...

Andrew Li

@veryRandomMe Do you have 10k rep on the target site?

Bye o/

veryRandomMe

yes

Andrew Li

Weird

Dunno if it's the exact query

Bhargav Rao

I can't earn a gold badge anytime soon

veryRandomMe

maybe there are none, though I'd expect it to be blank

@BhargavRao same :/

reopen does not seem to be a search option

Bhargav Rao

05:39

My nearest Gold badge is Sheriff which is 11 months away

Catija

Is there a way to search for posts with a certain number of votes? It'd be fun to bump a few 98 or 99 vote posts towards 100 :P

veryRandomMe

yes

Catija

... assuming they were deserved.

Bhargav Rao

@Catija votes:99..99

veryRandomMe

score:##

Wrzlprmft

05:40

@Catija … or timed it. Every Winter Bash had a gold-badge hat so far, so I assume a few people speculated on that.

Andrew Li

Samuel got 180*

Checking his activities

Bhargav Rao

Woah, That reminds me, I've got a question on 95 votes stackoverflow.com/questions/34287893/…

Rob

I'm debating bountying one of my answers to get the last few points for a gold badge

veryRandomMe

@BhargavRao good luck

Bhargav Rao

Thanks, Hopefully I cross the mark within WB end

BTW, That question won me 8 hats last winterbash

Rob

05:42

How so?

Alexander O'Mara

@SamuelLiew How did you get 180?

Samuel Liew

wooo I think I cracked "180". Vote to close (without hammer), wait for close, edit (optional?), upvote (optional?), vote to reopen

Catija

I think I figured out the Taco one.

Remove a tag from a question.

Andrew Li

Hmm

Bhargav Rao

@Rob Gold Badge, Silver Badge, 9000 views, 3 anonymous upvotes, Asked from phone, Answered own ... Two more which I forgot.

Andrew Li

05:43

Guys. Add it to the google doc

Samuel Liew

@AlexanderO'Mara stackoverflow.com/posts/41209310/timeline

Alexander O'Mara

@SamuelLiew Did you need review queue?

Rob

@BhargavRao Nice

Samuel Liew

@AlexanderO'Mara Nope

Bhargav Rao

@SamuelLiew Damn, Then I can never get that :/

Samuel Liew

05:45

I think the without hammer part is important, because I tried hammering one earlier

Rob

A hammer? The question is still closed though

Or is it edit and have it upvoted?

Andrew Li

Wait

So a non hammer close then reopen?

Samuel Liew

@Rob This is the one I tried to hammer, but didn't work stackoverflow.com/posts/41215224/timeline

Andrew Li

Maybe it's just not dupe

Samuel Liew

@AndrewLi Yes, or that. Best shot is unclear or too broad

Andrew Li

05:47

Ok

That's hard...

Alexander O'Mara

Well, if this gets reopened, we'll have another data point: stackoverflow.com/questions/41215422/…

Samuel Liew

@AlexanderO'Mara I got it before it got reopened. Just the reopen vote should be sufficient

Andrew Li

@AlexanderO'Mara the code filenames...

Alexander O'Mara

@SamuelLiew Wait, so just a reopen vote does it?

Rob

@SamuelLiew It's potentially an upvote as well, not to do with close votes

It was closed, you edited, it was upvoted

Andrew Li

05:51

I didn't VTC. Can we get it reopened by any chance?

Rob

Ah, sorry, maybe not - forgot the votes are aggregated by day

Bhargav Rao

@AndrewLi Do you need to reopen a SO post?

Samuel Liew

@AlexanderO'Mara Yeah, look this is still closed, with my reopen Camel route aggregation sequence issue

JamesENL

I voted for reopen

Andrew Li

It actually should stay closed

Catija

05:53

Anyone need an MSE closevote for the hat: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/288296/…

Andrew Li

Wait NVM.

I think we should reopen it.

Samuel Liew

@AlexanderO'Mara Congrats.

Alexander O'Mara

@SamuelLiew Haven't gotten it reopened yet.

Andrew Li

Nice!

You got it @AlexanderO'Mara

So it's confirmed

Samuel Liew

@AlexanderO'Mara I told you, just the reopen vote is sufficient without actually opening.

Alexander O'Mara

05:57

Huh, I did get the hat.

Andrew Li

Close it then reopen vote?

Alexander O'Mara

Close, then reopen. Doesn't matter if is successful?

Andrew Li

Let me note it down in the docs

Bhargav Rao

Close --> Edit --> Reopen

Alexander O'Mara

I also edited and upvoted.

IDK if it made a difference.

approxiblue

05:58

@AlexanderO'Mara did you use the queue in either case?

Samuel Liew

@approxiblue Queue not necessary

Anonymous

I also got 180. Closed, edited, cast a reopen vote.

Alexander O'Mara

@approxiblue No, found it via review queue moderator tools.

Andrew Li

@Mego So is edit necessary?

Anonymous

@AndrewLi As far as I can tell, yeah

Catija

05:59

@AlexanderO'Mara Then we need more testing before we can confirm it completely.

approxiblue

@SamuelLiew also, on that same question, I closed and reopened; if I don't get the hat, then edit is required

Andrew Li

Ok

Anonymous

I didn't upvote though

Andrew Li

K

Anonymous

Closed via review queue, edited and voted to reopen outside of the queue

approxiblue

06:01

@AndrewLi that's a request for another room you've been neglecting in your quest for hats

Andrew Li

@approxiblue Yes, Hatter mania is a horrible thing :(

Anonymous

@AndrewLi Winterbash makes us all mad as hatters

2

Andrew Li

Agreed

Anonymous

It's perfectly reasonable though. Because hats

Andrew Li

Hats == Waffles in glory

Ok. I closed, (let the OP tidy their question), edited a bit more, then voted to reopen

See where this goes

Bhargav Rao

06:10

Where's Quill BTW?

David, Quill and myself were the top 3 last time.

Anonymous

I haven't seen Quill around in a while

Andrew Li

Huh

Anonymous

I'm just going to settle for #1 on PPCG

Catija

I know it's pointless to complain but SO only hats really annoy me. :(

Andrew Li

Ummm, was this 'vandalized'?

Yep, just got 180°

Alexander O'Mara

06:13

@AndrewLi Or poorly edited.

Andrew Li

Seems like the edit is needed

@AlexanderO'Mara What I thought...

Do you have any time to edit it?

BR ninja's too good

Samuel Liew

Data.SE query for tumbleweed questions for the tumbleweed hat data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/604352/…

Andrew Li

@SamuelLiew do you have any idea how you got the elementary hat?

Bhargav Rao

@SamuelLiew Use teh Badger for live updates on the Tumbleweed posts git.io/v1lYA

Andrew Li

Wait, for the hat "Hero of Questions" you can't vote to reopen yourself?

Samuel Liew

06:21

@AndrewLi no, but it's probably something to do with a moderation action

Andrew Li

@SamuelLiew darn. I voted to reopen, and it got reopened

@SamuelLiew No, it turns out you can vote to reopen. I just got it

Samuel Liew

@AndrewLi cool!

Andrew Li

I have a feeling we're digging too deep into elementary and 8,243,721

Is there a transcript for SoundCloud?

Hats Stack Exchange

-2

Q: Chritmas HATS ? SE people are so aweseome

Guys love everyone who contributes to the SE community hats off!!

Catija

I wonder if Tacos is a certain amount of editing?

Anonymous

06:31

@HatsStackExchange Oh boy, I can get Abominable on MSE

Bhargav Rao

No, just one.

Andrew Li

It seems as if the user with the ernie/bert hat edited 2 questions with +6 characters

Let me retry

Catija

I'm already up two hours past my bedtime and all I have to show for it is a taco hat on M&TV that I can't duplicate anywhere else. Night all.

Bhargav Rao

Gunnite.

Andrew Li

Bye

Anonymous

06:43

Since we've more or less nailed down the requirements for 180, I've added the steps to the MSE CW post (in a spoiler tag, of course)

Andrew Li

That's allowed?

If it is, it might be worth it to link the google doc we have set up

Though it may not be the best idea to allow anyone to edit...

Anonymous

@AndrewLi In previous years, the hat post always had the requirements for the secret hats in spoiler tags

Anonymous

See:

Anonymous

349

Q: Winter Bash 2015 Secret Hats

I just received my first Winter Bash 2015 Secret Hat, so I decided to start the traditional Secret Hats and how to get them spoiler question. Note: Please edit the primary list of secret hats with definitive answers only. If you'd like to discuss the hats further and/or work towards identifyin...

discussion winterbash-2015 secret-hats

Bhargav Rao

That reminds me, Where's that @Eran kid?

Haven't seen him around too.

S.L. Barth

06:49

Just got the They Live secret hat on Stack Overflow. Current guess: editing an old post.

Anonymous

@S.L.Barth Oh no... I really hope that's not what triggers it.

Anonymous

Necro edits everywhere...

S.L. Barth

I hope it's triggered by something more... like editing followed by someone else upvoting it.

Andrew Li

OK

@S.L.Barth Nice! Add it to the list

S.L. Barth

Already added it to the MSE post. Trying to find out how to get the picture of the hat though, so I can add that too.

Andrew Li

06:51

And the google doc if possible

Bhargav Rao

Did that also

S.L. Barth

@BhargavRao Thanks for adding the image!

Bhargav Rao

I'm sure that there's some secret hat for the review queues

Andrew Li

@S.L.Barth What we're you going when you got it?

S.L. Barth

@AndrewLi Reviewing Suggested Edits.

Bhargav Rao

06:53

That ---^

S.L. Barth

I did a few Reject & Edits. A few normal Rejects and a few normal Approvals. No Improve Edits in this particular session.

Andrew Li

Darn

I've done as much as I can today and I didn't get the hat

Bhargav Rao

Sure that it's for reject & edit

alecxe

same here, all the review queues are almost done for today but no hat so far

Bhargav Rao

That's the only one which I've not done today.

alecxe

06:55

hey guys

Bhargav Rao

Hi @alecxe

Andrew Li

Hi o/

Anonymous

Maybe They Live has something to do with Necromancer?

Bhargav Rao

Do you want me to track the necromancer badges?

I'll add an entry

Anonymous

It couldn't hurt

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