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1:57 PM

@Rainbolt I made that same mistake reading that Ifnir card.

@doppelgreener Funny that you mention that lol

I came to the chat just to say that I thought I had a one-up on the accepted answer only to realize my mistake after I wrote it

diego

@Rainbolt @doppelgreener Glad I wasn't the only one that had that thought :)

Rainbolt

Tomorrow they will print a card that says "You may cycle permanents on the battlefield as though they were in your hand. All permanents on the battlefield have cycle {1}." and then I will undelete my answer.

doppelgreener

2:19 PM

@Rainbolt And we will get like five new questions about it. :D

Rainbolt

XD

(I think that's the "I died with a smile on my face" emoji but I'm never sure if I use it properly.)

doppelgreener

@Rainbolt that is the laughing emoji!

maybe textsmili.es --> ( x ͜ʖ x )

Rainbolt

I see

When you have X's over your eyes it means you are dead, so I always figured it meant something like "laughing so hard I died" or "your joke killed me"

But Cartman's face has corrected my understanding

doppelgreener

Quotes improved by taking them out of context: "Cartman's face has corrected my understanding" -- Rainbolt, 2017.

(not to pick on you or anything :D)

Rainbolt

I don't mind it at all

doppelgreener

2:33 PM

@Rainbolt the benefit is those aren't off the mark, so you've probably been using it just right! :D

at least you aren't one of those people who've discovered "lol" means "laughing out loud" not "lots of love", and thus wasn't appropriate to say each time someone said they were having a terrible time....

Rainbolt

@diego I think it's interesting that even the 2001 printing of Dodecapod (from Apocalypse) has wording that narrowly avoids the issue Ivo Beckers brought up on your answer. And every creature since then (the most recent being Loxodon Smiter) has had about the same text.

I was surprised to see that the original 2001 text wasn't all messed up

My partner and I play a game while driving where the passenger reads the old text of a card and the driver tries to guess the Oracle text

diego

Are either of you mean enough to pick things like Chains of Mephistopheles or Ice Cauldron? Or do you go for things that are actually reasonable?

Rainbolt

We take on unreasonable cards. I don't think we've done Ice Cauldron before but I know we did chains

You start learning the standard order of costs on a card when you play the game

Like tap is always before paying life, mana comes before tap, etc.

doppelgreener

2:48 PM

@Rainbolt That's actually a pretty good game, haha

Rainbolt

We also play a game where the passenger will name a modern legal land, and the driver tries to name as many decks that play that land according to mtggoldfish

doppelgreener

@Rainbolt Wow. That must be a practice of tournament metagame knowledge, right?

I never thought about that kind of thing but that sounds pretty useful to practice -- it means you can start filtering down and guessing your opponent's entire strategy and deck after seeing just one or two cards from them, I realise.

Rainbolt

Yup. It's definitely the more useful of the two games lol

diego

Amonkhet Mechanics

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doppelgreener

@diego Something struck me that's really great about Enbalm: exiling the card from the graveyard and creating a token that's a copy of it, means I can just take the card itself back out of my graveyard, put it on the battlefield, and put on a coin on it to remind me it's now a white zombie token.

diego

3:02 PM

@doppelgreener Or you can use on of the 'Embalm' counters that are going to be on the perforated counter cards

Rainbolt

As long as you remember that when your embalmed token dies, it doesn't go back to your graveyard (it ceases to exist), and as long as you don't play it in a format where Pull from Eternity is legal, that sounds like a good idea

doppelgreener

@diego I forgot about that! Are those actually perforated? :O

diego

@doppelgreener I'm pretty sure they are

doppelgreener

@Rainbolt Yeah, I imagine for e.g. Commander I'd go a step further and get the corresponding token because it'll help keep things neat.

Rainbolt

Yea. And the token looks cool too

At least cooler than a perforated thingy

So after all of that hate on the Amonkhet Invocations last week, some shop decided it'd be a great idea to make your entire deck look like Invocations. flippedtable.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/…

Err... not some shop. Ultra·Pro.

murgatroid99

3:09 PM

I'm pretty sure that was an April Fools joke

Rainbolt

Oh, let me find the post and check the date...

Yup...

Good call

doppelgreener

It's a pretty great april fool's joke

Rainbolt

It's even tagged as "April Fool's" but I'm not a Redditor so I didn't realize that was a thing

Some guy got upset about the tags because he doesn't like spoilers and wants to fully appreciate the joke

diego

Rosewater's article has our first look at the new gods

murgatroid99

@doppelgreener They're also printing a token for every card with Enbalm

diego

3:14 PM

@doppelgreener I'm guessing the counters are mostly designed for limited where getting the correct token can be hard

doppelgreener

@diego Yeah, i think so.

@murgatroid99 It's also kind of damning that "make your card look like an Invocation!" is actually a matter for a joke, and not a sincere marketable offer.

Rainbolt

@diego What does "top down" (or "top-down") mean in this article? Anyone?

diego

@Rainbolt Top-down and bottom-up are how they start building the set. top-down means they start with a particular flavor (so Eqypt/Bolas for Amonkhet, Greece for Theros, etc.), bottom-up starts with some sort of mechanical focus (lands matter for Zendikar, make you feel like and inventor for Kaladesh, artifacts for Mirrodin, etc.)

Rainbolt

Ah okay. Thanks for explaining

doppelgreener

Oh no... oh no.

The font design for invocations makes this look like it says "Hazoret the Pervert".

Rainbolt

3:22 PM

XD

We went to Grand Prix San Antonio this past weekend to play in the Team Unified Modern event, and went 2-5. Not awesome, but then my partner and I played in side events for the remainder of the weekends and managed to win enough prize tickets to cash in for a full set of SDCC 2015 planeswalkers.

Plus they have a Which Wich? right next to the convention center, which made my weekend.

doppelgreener

One day I am going to create something called "Which Lich?" which will frustrate everyone because it looks like you can say them the same but you can't, and it will get people saying "lich" wrong.

(for those unaware, "lich" is pronounced the same way as "lick".)

Rainbolt

I have been saying it wrong...

diego

@doppelgreener I have never heard someone say it that way..

Rainbolt

forum.rpg.net/archive/index.php/t-135978.html

The old Internet geeks seem to pronounce it like "itch"

This guy agrees with doppel tho gamefaqs.com/boards/…

Favorite comment in that thread: The lich king = "the licking"

doppelgreener

@Rainbolt this always cracked me up

it might actually be pronouncable either way in English, actually...

but its root words have a hard 'k' sound, not a 'ch' sound.

okay, yeah, various sources that acknowledge 'lich' as an English word are fine with it being pronounced "litsh".

neat.

murgatroid99

4:11 PM

I don't think I've ever heard it pronounced "lick", and I work with people who worked on WoW, so it comes up occasionally.

The Reddit thread about that invocation is pointing out that other Hazoret-related text we've seen so far has double meanings in the context of "Hazoret the Pervert"

> When the time comes, only one of you will be honored by my spear -- Hazoret, god of zeal

> Unleash your fervor and kneel before Hazoret

doppelgreener

7:12 PM

Exert looks like fun. I hope it turns out to be fun in actual play.

@murgatroid99 oh no. XD

JonTheMon

Reminds me of Stitcher's Graft only optional and less.... attached

doppelgreener

8:09 PM

@JonTheMon More diverse effects, and seems able to show up in lots of other sets.

murgatroid99

9:54 PM

PSA: The rules regarding the CMC of split cards are changing. This post has some information

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> Previously, we played a delicate dance when asking about converted mana cost. Sometimes Destined//Lead’s CMC is most like 2: Goblin Dark-Dwellers can target it. Sometimes it’s more like 4: Transgress the Mind can blorp it.
Sometimes it’s more like 6: Dark Confidant dings you for 6 if you reveal it.This rewards players who dig into the rules and figure that out, but it baffles a lot of people, too. So now, it’s simple: If Destined//Lead isn’t on the stack, it has a converted mana cost of 6. Destined on the stack has a CMC of 2, and Lead on the stack has a CMC of 4, but Destined//Lead, any …

diego

@murgatroid99 You just beat me to that :)

murgatroid99

That actually substantially affects people's usage of quite a few cards, like using Expertises and Brain in a Jar with split and fuse cards, or putting cards like Boom//Bust on Isochron Scepter

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