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Takkat

07:05

Guten Morgen

Lukas

Guten Morgen @Takkat

Gigili

08:37

Morgen @Lukas, @Takkat.

Takkat

Hallo @Gigili

Lukas

Guten Morgen @Gigili

Jan

09:55

Moin @alle :-)

Takkat

10:07

(-: naJ@ nioM

Jan

(-: ¡ʇɐʞʞɐʇ@ uıoɯ

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Ladybug Killer

Hier geht's ja drunter und drüber. Guten Morgen @alle.

Takkat

Wunderschönen guten Morgen @LadybugKiller

Ladybug Killer

Soso, @Takkat, jetzt bekomm schon Upvotes, wenn ich neue Wörter erfinde. Das muss ich mir merken :)

Takkat

Ja, aber ich habe heute noch nicht gebudischobt.

Ladybug Killer

10:13

Sonst könntest Du auch nicht mehr tippen ;r

Takkat

Bei der ganzen Budischoberei wäre das auch kein Wunder.

Ladybug Killer

Da sollte mal jemand die Asche wegkehren.

Jan

Moin @LadybugKiller :-)

Takkat

Hust.

Gigili

Whust?

Takkat

10:17

Asche + Kehren = Staub + Husten

Dort kehrt jemand.

Ladybug Killer

Aber nicht ein.

Takkat

Und auch nicht um.

Ladybug Killer

Um wäre aber cleverer als ein.

Takkat

Wäre, aber die Leute auf dem Bild steigen sogar aus, damit die das Ganze hautnah erleben können.

Manchen gruselt vor gar nichts.

Gigili

10:37

Kerhren, einkehren, umkehren .. Sonst noch was?

Takkat

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Q: The prefix "ver-" and its meaning

I came across an article about the prefix "ver-" and its meaning. Welche Bedeutung hat das Präfix "ver-" in diesen Verben? A – eine Handlung bis zum Ende durchführen B – von einem Ort weg C – einen Fehler machen D – in einen Zustand bringen The problem is, how would I ...

Es erhält dann eine Reihe verschiedener Bedeutungen.

"Bügermeister Wackelbauch verkehrte mit den falschen Leuten und musste seinen Hut nehmen"

Jan

"In der Fraktion wurde danach über eine Abkehr vom althergebrachten System der Vetternwirtschaft diskutiert."

Takkat

da fällt mir auch noch der Hundepräsident Wuff ein.

Jan

Jo, göttlich :-)

Gigili

Um, right. What? right right.

Ladybug Killer

10:52

bekehren - kehren ist ja so vielseitig :)

Jan

Jaaa - lasst uns die Kehrwoche ausrufen!

Takkat

Kehraus

Gigili

We have the same word, kehrkehrkehr

You'll wonder about the meaning anyway.

Takkat

We won't find out if you don't tell us ;P

Gigili

If someone says something which is not funny at all, instead of saying funny funny we'd say kehrkehrkehr.

Takkat

11:01

:) nice

Gigili

It's even nicer when you use it, like saying neener neener.

Em1

11:31

duden.de/rechtschreibung/Butz_Schreckgestalt_Kobold

Takkat

> Herkunft ungeklärt

Em1

es gibt 2 theorien

butze kommt von mhd bôzen / bessen (schlagen, poltern, klopfen)

oder verbutzen (verhüllen, vermummen)

welche theorie die richtige ist, kA... :D ich google nachher mal weiter

Takkat

:)

Ladybug Killer

11:54

Och nö, nich wieder was Etymologisches. Da such ich nachher wieder stundenlang im Netz.

Wikipedia sagt schon alles zum Butzenmann, man gesagt werden muss. Daher werde ich die Frage als zu trivial schließen lassen ;)

Gigili

Hey @Em1.

Em1

hey @Gigili

Gigili

How would I say "I want to hear that laugh-sound"?

Em1

Perfekt :) Lange genug gewartet, hat sich das googlen erübrigt. Danke :)

Meinst du: Das Lachen würde ich gerne hören

Oder: Seine/Ihre Lache würd ich gern hören

Gigili

12:11

Is this correct?

in lɪŋˈɡwɪstɪks, 4 mins ago, by Gigili

Ich will den lache(n/r)-sound hören, maybe?

Or

in lɪŋˈɡwɪstɪks, 9 mins ago, by Alenanno

Ich will das Lachen hören! :P

Cerberus

Hi!

"Ich will" sounds a bit...imperative, nö?

How about "ich möchte das Lachen hören"?

Gigili

Yes, both ich würde and möchte sound much better than ich will.

Em1

Auf jeden Fall ohne -sound

Wenn schon Geräusch, aber das passt hier nicht: Das Lachgeräusch

Gigili

Why is that? laughing sound, not the laughing itself.

Ladybug Killer

geräuschvoll aufstoßen ... äh ... auflachen

Em1

12:18

einfach Das Lachen oder Die Lache

Gigili

Die Lache sound?

Em1

@Takkat verputzen stammt übrigens auch von verbutzen ab

No, no

Gigili

Please add sound to the sentence?

Em1

*Das Lachen* is the act of laughing
*Die Lache* is ... uhh, how do I explain it?

... I wouldn't use sound !

Gigili

Okay, ich will den lacher hören?

Em1

12:21

This is good

or, at least better :D

Gigili

Hih, phew!

Em1

As I said, I would say: Das Lachen will ich hören or Die Lache will ich hören

Gigili

Thank you very much @Em1.

Em1

If you want to say Sound replace it with Geräusch

Though in case of Lachen... it sounds awkward

Cerberus

Because Lachen already is a sound.

You can't say it in English either: *I want to hear the laughter sound.

Em1

12:23

Sound is usually used in case of music. Deine Anlage hat aber einen guten Sound

Gigili

Um, what's the difference between "der Lacher", "die Lache" and "das Lachen"?

Em1

laugh-sound is ok... this was the original post of Gigili

Ladybug Killer

I wouldn't use "Lache" for "Lachen", because it has also another meaning.

Em1

I think it is clear what is meant @LadybugKiller

Cerberus

@Em1 Laugh sound? In which language?

Em1

12:25

@Gigili Das Lachen the act itself

Ladybug Killer

@Em1 Because you are a native speaker. Lache for Lachen is colloquial by the way.

Cerberus

Isn't Lache more like the way in which someone laughs, or the fact that he does it, as opposed to Lachen, which is the action or the sound?

Gigili

@Cerberus I cannot say the laughing sound?

Em1

Die Lache ... um, I think, that is the sound

Cerberus

@Gigili You could say that, but it's hard to think of a situation in which that would be a logical thing to say.

It would normally be the sound of laughter, if that's what you mean.

Em1

12:27

Duden says Lache is how someone laughs

Cerberus

In Dutch, someone's lach is like someone smile, except that it is when he is actually laughing.

Em1

And Der Lacher is a very good joke... Or funny situation ...

Cerberus

@Em1 Ahh so I was right! Yay.

Gigili

So you cannot hear "das Lachen" if it's the action of laughing, right?

In English "laugh" is both the sound of someone laughing and the action of laughing, right?

Left.

Em1

As a action which makes sound, of course you can hear it

You can also hear a Zusammenstoß zweier Autos

Cerberus

12:30

Laughter is mainly the sound, but by extension also the action.

Arg it's complicated!

Em1

@Cerberus Agree.

Gigili

Um pft.

Em1

Maybe refer to the verb: Ich mag hören, wie er lacht.

Cerberus

@Gigili I guess it is better to learn these (very subtle) difference case by case rather than by definitions.

Gigili

@Cerberus Right.

Cerberus

12:33

@Em1 That is I like hearing how he laughs, right?

As in, I enjoy hearing how he laughs.

But I think Gigi wanted to know "I would like to hear what it sounds like when he laughs".

Em1

@Cerberus yep

Yes she does but implicit you already express that

.ahh.. bullshit :D

Yes she does, but implicit you also express that by refering to the verb !

Gigili

Maybe "ich möchte hören wie es klingt, wenn er lacht"?

Cerberus

Sounds good!

Em1

Hm, yeah... Let me think about it.

In principle, yes

But I don't know, if klingt is the best verb you can choose

Ich möchte hören wie es sich anhört, wenn er lacht

Cerberus

In Dutch, it would work!

Em1

12:37

Of course it works @Cerberus

Cerberus

Oh, yes, sich anhören, that sounds good and German.

Em1

But laugh is no Kling-Sound a triangle klingt

Cerberus

Right.

Gigili

@Em1 That's the bestest, the bestest by far.

Em1

Hm... one reason aginst

against

Cerberus

12:39

In Dutch, klinken is as general as sound.

Em1

Double use of hören klingt schlecht / hört sich schlecht an

Yeah... Yeah, in german, too. Gerneralized

There are much words you can use, but some fits better than others. Klingen isn't my first choice for Lachen

Ich möchte die Geräusche hören, die er beim Lachen von sich gibt.

There you have sound !

Cerberus

Hehe.

Em1

Fits, if someone gurgles while laughing

Cerberus

I have to go, thanks for your advice!

Em1

bye @Cerberus

Gigili

12:43

Have fun Cerb.

Takkat

@Em1 Herausputzen von Butz = Schmuck ;)

Ich möchte Dich lachen hören = I want to hear you laughing

Ich möchte Dein Lachen hören = I want to hear your laughter

There is the noun and the verb...

"Dein Lachen hört sich komisch an" - does not mean it's funny ;)

Gigili

Whoa, it's getting interesting.

One would never know these different variants by asking the question on the main site.

Takkat

One would increasingly have to take care to make the question not sound trivial ;)

Gigili

Very true.

Takkat

Wikipedia would never be a valid reference if it was the only place I find some piece of information.

GL&U will be much better than Wikipedia when it comes to German language.

I hope some day we will be listed as reference by Wikipedia articles.

Gigili

12:56

It needs to graduate from beta first.

Takkat

It needs questions, questions, questions to do so.

Gigili

Haha, I can protect questions now.

Takkat

We don't have so many me too questions here :P

Jan

I just found DIN 23307 :-)

Takkat

:D was man nicht alles normieren kann - ts -ts -ts

Gigili

13:08

What's DIN 23307?

Takkat

> Die Gestaltung moderner Arschleder ist durch die DIN 23307 Gesäßleder für den Bergbau (Arschleder) geregelt.

from de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arschleder

Gigili

Oh that. Thank you Takkat.

Jan

<lach>

Takkat

Trivial because it shows up on the first Google page...

...but it could be formulated into a non-trivial question!

Gigili

13:31

I didn't take it seriously, I thought it was like saying I met MAX 45610 in the street today.

Jan

@Gigili: MAX 45610, that's hilarious :-D

Gigili

Hih.

Gigili

15:48

What does "dideldum" mean, @Takkat?

I'm really stressed out before the exam.

I'll check later

Jan

@Gigili: it's like "lalala", describes that he's humming a melody

also "lalelu" (although that's also a famous song), "dumdideldei", "tüdeldü"...

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