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12:33 PM
Quiet in here when I'm not around. ;)
Got an hour or two this morning.
Before my ride arrives.
Hey @Helmar, been a little while.
 
guess here is actually the most frequented chat on SE :)
 
@Videonauth Yikes! 54 people chatting?
 
:))
 
Oh, it's you! Didn't recognize you with your hat. :)
 
Hrhrhr fear the YETI
 
12:38 PM
Something like that. :)
 
yeah sadly none of the hats fits well so i decided for this one to cover up my whole picture for this time
 
Kind of cool... I got the Polymath hat on only 2 sites. :)
@Videonauth Yes, I had the same problem.
That's why I'm wearing the gold cup.
 
im still trying to figure out how to get more hats
 
Do you know what your secret hat is?
 
the yeti ?
yes
closevoting
 
12:40 PM
Ah, ok.
Do you have to be the first to VTC?
 
i think you have to be the last close vote who actually closes a question, but easy to earn by doing reviews
 
@Videonauth Ok, sorry, no, I was talking about the Taco 'bout it one.
 
erm not entirely sure tho, i thikn it has to do with editing which i did alot yesterday
dont know the exact trigger
 
1:00 PM
I have even two that I don't know the trigger for
 
@Helmar Which?
Dear me, you're an avid user of SE. 11 hats!
 
@Helmar which you have you not know the trigger for, maybe i can help out
 
1:25 PM
The around the world thingy and the taco one
 
Around the world (Where in the world i guess) == upvoting on anything (i got mine all from upvoting questions)
I wont taco about it == editing questions/answers i got mine by doing so while reviewing
 
1:45 PM
Just got a new hat!
On Meta.SE
The one I'm wearing.
How that's supposed to be a hat, I'm not sure...
 
you people can always complain
now you get hats
and don't like 'em
 
@Ghanima Always. Human nature, buddy. Haven't you been moding long enough to figure that one out?
 
you know, RPi.SE is like the kindergarten of SE
 
2:08 PM
so how's the going
how about the fence?
 
@Videonauth Idk, I only got the hats today and I voted and edited yesterday too
 
well in the olde hat shoppe you can maybe get some hints on hats this is why im in that chat too right now
 
do they trade?
you know, get three Vaders for one, well any other one
 
@Ghanima how you mean that, wel they actully trying to figure out secret hats and how to get them
no not that i know of
 
yeah, just kidding
 
2:23 PM
Anyone know if you can migrate off of a private beta?
 
@anonymous2 I'm pretty sure there's an area51 question that says no
 
I guess you can migrate to meta
not that this is particularily helpful
 
@Helmar I'm thinking that would be logical...
 
look at that, add Muttiheft to Kindergarten and Blitzkrieg
Muttiheft (German for "Mommy notebook"; also Merkheft, Kommunikationsbuch, Verkehrsheft, in Austria Mitteilungsheft) is the colloquial term, sometimes ironically used, for a small notebook designed to facilitate communication between teachers and the parents of young students. The term was most used in the period of Communist East Germany. Criticism, praise, rewards of merit (little rewards) (in the GDR called "little bees" or "Bienchen") were recorded in the books, and parents had to sign the reports to record their receipt of the information. The notebooks could also inform parents about the...
 
:D
That postgraduate question is reeeeally off-topic considering that we are in private beta
 
2:36 PM
but it's been shut down
 
yeah
 
... and gone for the ordinary folks
you know, anyone but you and the Most Madnificent
 
w00t
It doesn't say deleted for me
I was just looking up when I can start to delete vote
Doesn't look deleted to me yet. It's just somehow vanished from the front page, but it's still in the new questions tab
The private beta thing is killing us
Down to 90 views
If they drag it out into the new year we might be doomed
 
it's a test, they test you and the Madnificent Hotshot whether you come up with some elegant solution to that
@Helmar ... and hats everywhere else too
 
I'm more of an answering guy
 
2:46 PM
@Helmar I honestly don't think so. They know it's private beta, and they know views are going to be low.
 
Those 9 questions are more than I have on the rest of the network
 
Were you around yesterday when I posted the quote by...
 
Glorfindel?
 
... ?Glorfindel?
 
Yeah, he seemed optimistic
 
2:47 PM
That's what I was thinking but couldn't remember definitively.
 
but who is this Glorfindel
 
@Ghanima Big shot on Meta
 
but not in any official capacity
 
@Helmar IoT, apart from the views, is very close to some sites that are graduating.
Sorry, but I'm an incurable optimist as far as IoT is concerned.
 
Seems like we are holding the level at least
It's not like we crashed
 
2:54 PM
I'm looking at a few other sites that have graduated, and it seems that Q's per day usually drop to like 3-5 after the initial rush (usually 4-6 days). They pulled through... I think we can too.
Admittedly, Christmas wasn't the easiest time to take a shot at private beta, though.
Up to 6 hats!
 
darn
 
@Ghanima You've got one I'm not going to get... because I don't use a mobile device.
 
well I hardly do so either
just for the hat ;)
 
@Ghanima I think that's SE's point. Get people on the app who wouldn't usually use it.
 
well I've got Abominable what more can I ask
 
2:57 PM
@Ghanima Me too...
 
Not sure it's a good idea to hat-force people to ask questions from the app
The UI is not that great
 
@Helmar Probably why people aren't on it. Also why they have to make encouragements to get people on it.
 
I would really like to know how many people create bogus developer stories by hat encouragement in the next weeks compared to those who actually discover the feature for themselves and actually use it.
 
yeah, that's the downside to hats
overambitious people
 
I just linked two IoT answers as Hot Posts :D
 
3:08 PM
you know, a little bit like mods that shot-to-kill questions to get a stupid Abominable hat
... which I of course never did
@Helmar oh boy, it's not just posting a question, it's ten upvotes, I'll never get that on RPi
 
@Ghanima Well, you can edit it afterwards on a PC to make an awesome question
 
believe me, if we get 3 upvotes over there we go all crazy
 
3:31 PM
@Ghanima What upvotes where?
 
on raspberrypi.SE
you're not flooded with votes like here in this beta
 
Oh yeah, the ELU crowd is also tough
Worldbuilding and SciFi are good though
 
3:47 PM
@Helmar I think we can safely say the consensus is that the list post doesn't work :P
 
Oh Allmighty, it is you
 
The hats are actually showing for me now too!
 
well, it got only 4 close votes so far, doing good
 
@Aurora0001 Well, that was always a possible result :)
 
(not the AuroraHats, sadly)
Honestly, I have to say I disagree in part though; some of the SO list posts have been immensely useful to me
Also, look here:
I'm ahead of @Helmar for once
 
3:58 PM
@Aurora0001 congrats
 
Also, I think the answer counter is broken by the look of it
on the AuroraHats
@Helmar recalc done
you now have progress towards your hat
We also have some demographics now on Quantcast
which is quite interesting
So, here's the average IoT user:
a male, aged 18-24 with kids that earns >$150k with a postgraduate qualification of Asian ethnicity
Most likely to drive a Honda
 
hmm, interesting
 
4:23 PM
Time to think of a question for today to boost the numbers a bit
Current success of the community ads:
1 click
0 clicks
 
yeah!
yeah for EE
 
also the 1 click from EE was me
:P
 
booo for RPi
 
4:59 PM
Here's my question for today:
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Q: Will alarms set on one Amazon Echo be shared with all other devices in the same home?

Aurora0001With the Amazon Echo, it's easy to set an alarm that will be triggered on the same device that the alarm was created, however it isn't always useful if you're not going to remain in the same room when you expect the alarm to fire (e.g. if you set an alarm in the kitchen to wake you up in the morn...

I'm moving on to more practical IoT questions because I've got bored of theoretical questions (at least for now)
 
Shit, my living room is throwing a critical out of power plugs exception
Too much new IoT stuff
 
@Helmar just wanted to say, if that happens, theres a workaround, unplug the smart chrismas tree until it is really needed :P
 
@Helmar solution is except OutOfPlugsError: install_new_plugs(wallet)
 
@Aurora0001 solution exception OutOfMotivationCozyAtHome
 
@Helmar tag wiki edits for you to review
 
5:05 PM
ahhhh, we have a helmar on RPi
I think, the infection is spreading
 
@Ghanima but you don't have AuroraHats
so RPi is obviously not as good
 
true, but since only the real Aurora is getting all the good hats it doesn't matter for the most of us
 
@Helmar thanks for your insta-approve (it's that bug again!)
Also, whoever starred my last message just gave me the Madnificent hat - thanks!
 
as I said, just. not. fair.
 
@Aurora0001 you are doubly welcome
 
5:10 PM
@Ghanima just suggest a hat you could achieve then!
 
oh I did, thy Madnificence didn't like it ;)
 
What was the suggestion again?
 
I don't recall, something about not removing his Madnificence from the room or so :-P
 
@Ghanima oh yeah I remember now
 
5:20 PM
@Ghanima go and make GhanimaHats if you don't like it then :P
 
no, no. We're one big small family here. One set of hats is enough.
 
Anyway, you're only 3 stars off Madnificent yourself now
Also, we've passed 500 users! 🎉
 
Party, 500 users :)
 
 
1 hour later…
6:59 PM
Robert Cartaino got a hat!
Also:
"Please note that with the anticipated slowdown in traffic during the end-of-year holidays, we will not be evaluating this site for public launch until after the new year. – Robert Cartaino♦"
@BenceKaulics did your linkedin post get many likes then?
I saw your comment
 
No. Just 1 Like / group. :D
 
Well, it's something
There's definitely a lot of traffic from somewhere though
It would help if we had access to the Google Analytics
At this rate @Helmar will get access soon
Also, not long until we get another 1ker
@SeanHoulihane and @BenceKaulics are both close
 
7:15 PM
3
Q: Accepting Nominations — Who should moderate this site?

Robert CartainoIdeally Moderators are elected by the community, but until the community is large enough to hold a proper election, we will be appointing three provisional Moderators to fill those roles. We need your help. Please nominate folks you would like to see become provisional moderators for this site. ...

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7:27 PM
I have some nominee in mind, who wants me not to nominate her/him?
 
7:42 PM
12,54,78?
 
 
1 hour later…
8:53 PM
@BenceKaulics I assume no-one wants you not to nominate them :P
Although hardly anyone's here at the minute
You can always go ahead and delete if they aren't interested
 
Yea, maybe they are busy writing their introduction as a nominee.
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Also, area 51 questions stats have gone down to 5.5 per day...
 
I don't have much time to ask nowadays. :(
 
@BenceKaulics well, your answers are still very helpful!
 
but I am losing balance :D
 
9:02 PM
@BenceKaulics meh, Jon Skeet doesn't get over 900k of rep from balance!
 
I think it's very fitting that Robert got just the Benevolent Dictator :D
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Is it just me or is it weird that they are calling for mods but don't say that they launch the site?
Isn't choosing mods normally done after reaching public beta?
 
They actually pick them after public beta
But accept nominations now
because honestly, it's unlikely that someone joining after the private beta is going to prove themselves as a good user in time
 
So its three weeks of suspense :D
 
@Helmar indeed, although I take this as a good sign
 
@Aurora0001 Me too
 
9:10 PM
If they're accepting nominations, they are probably going to keep the site running
And we're doing better than both failed AI private betas
Artificial Intelligenceai.stackexchange.com.dead

Q&A site for software developers who use / want to use AI techniques in their projects.

Closed after 12 days in beta.

and
Artificial Intelligenceai.stackexchange.com.also.dead

Q&A site for theorists, system architects and analysts of intelligent machines and software.

Closed after 18 days in beta.

 
Somehow we need to get an initiative off-ground that gets people who can't figure out their new christmas IoT stuff to get on the site
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@Helmar well, SE have basically killed that idea by not letting us open
you could always suggest it on meta though
I'm concerned that prolonging the private beta will just kill the momentum that the site's users have
 
@Aurora0001 I am writing a post now :)
 
I think the idea's a good one really - they might not be theoretical but they'll be useful, organic questions
Just what we want.
 
9:18 PM
Exactly
I'll just add a question to Robert directly for a special SE wide Christmas promo ;)
 
And, best of all, likely to be Googled :P
I have to go now, see you all tomorrow!
 
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Q: How do we get the people who desperately want to use their new Christmas IoT stuff on the site?

HelmarLooks like we are not going public this year due to holidays. Please note that with the anticipated slowdown in traffic during the end-of-year holidays, we will not be evaluating this site for public launch until after the new year. – Robert Cartaino♦ That begs the question how we get all t...

As you can see, I am a very gifted paint artist :)
 
10:06 PM
@Aurora0001 that is the real danger
 
@Ghanima I will combat this by keep asking questions about building Skynet in my living room: iot.stackexchange.com/questions/414/…
 
on an unrelated topic, so you kids want me to nominate Big H and The Most Magnificent A as mods or not
@Helmar just saw that pop up
 
I'm certainly interested in throwing my considerable amount of hats in the ring :)
 
well, self-nominations are encouraged
 
Yeah, I'll write it up tomorrow, I'm currently too deep in too many sites regarding the multiple-echo question of our hat creator
 
10:12 PM
it's no rush, after all we're in suspension till next year
 
Exactly
 
but I agree with our Most Significant Madnificence, them asking for nominations is a pretty good sign
 
10:49 PM
Do site users get a ping when we go public beta?
 
I am pretty sure you'll get a note in your inbox
 
That's good, we need people to check back after the holidays
 

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