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1:23 PM
Wooooooo hooooooooo oko is gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *dances for hours in celebration
Finally
 
But still far too many strong cheap PW in standard for my taste :(
 
teferi still exists
lol
but still, this is a huge victory for all us fun-loving players
 
Sure
 
also once upon a time
which is unfortunate, i was starting to pull together a mono green list but losing OUAT and veil is big
 
I don't understand how they could think printing OUAT was fine. We've been having problems with cheap filters in modern for years and now they print a free one :|
 
1:32 PM
agreed
disappointing for me, but absolutely necessary
 
It didn't pass my joke metric for complete brokeness though :p A metric very few cards passed: when a non-red card starts being splashed for in monored burn.
 
Fair enough
 
I remember Trasure Cruise, Deathrite Shaman and Mental Misstep being splashed for (alone) in burn decks.
 
and, unsurprisingly, they all got banned
 
Though Mental Misstep is arguably even worse because it didn't need a splash and was an automatic 4 of in all decks.
 
1:43 PM
Smugglers copter flashbacks
 
Exactly. And also Legacy meta where 80% of decks played 4 Brainstorm (don't know if it's still the case).
And I didn't check Pioneer yet but that would be my first guess: 4 Copters, 4 Deathrite, then whatever you want because the deck has near perfect mana fixing and card filtering while also have early game threats, blockers, grave hate, life gain and a bit of range.
 
Any deck that doesn't need the slots for something else relevant should run 4 of of both
 
What could be more relevant? :p unless you're playing combo or heavy control there are few better creatures in these slots.
 
2:05 PM
Something like bant spirits, for example, where something is made better by the rest of the deck
where deck synergy outvalues individual power, something can be prioritized over things like shaman and copter
 
Yeah tribal decks probably don't want them.
 
Really anything that relies heavily on synergy, tribal was just the best example in my opinion
 
2:24 PM
Is there a one-time Hive Mind effect? Something like: "All players copy target instant or sorcery and can choose new targets". Or all players except the caster of the spell.
 
not that i know of
so like a fractured identity but for spells?
 
Yeah. But it doesn't need to invalidate the original.
 
as far as i can tell, curse of echoes is the only other hive mind effect, besides that it's just twincast, and other copy target spell effects
Hive mind on a commander would be sick though
 
That would be broken :p with the pacts.
 
Cast one with nothing, final fortune, etc
exactly
well, negation would be useless
half of them would get countered
or more
 
2:30 PM
We have too many cards doing exactly the same thing or just little variants. We need more weird variants of staple effects like Fork.
 
 
1 hour later…
3:38 PM
agreed
 

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