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1:55 PM
Is @DoubleAA on a Chanuka-gelt-giving spree?
 
2:11 PM
@IsaacMoses There are two other users with multiple bounties up right now, both of whom started their second one before me.
 
Is @DoubleAA Mi Yodeya on a Chanuka-gelt-giving-spree?
 
3:09 PM
@IsaacMoses I suspect if you wait a few weeks you'll see more Gelt giving (in pursuit of hats, of course).
 
@DoubleAA CHANUKA IS NOT THE JEWISH NAME FOR HAT SEASON
 
3:27 PM
Speaking of burning stuff, welcome back, @ablaze
 
Oh, thanks!
I have a question I need to get in before Shabbos, that’s why I’m up so early
 
3:40 PM
Ah, there seems to be a pertinent thread about it already judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/8725/…
Not quite, though. I’m still gonna ask it and see what happens
 
 
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5:31 PM
@MonicaCellio here's some raw material that could be used in one (suggestions for improving there shoot welcome):
"improving the shot," that is
 
 
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7:01 PM
@IsaacMoses Put PMY next to the Gemara Megilla, instead of DoAMY
While your at it put HMY next to pesachim, methinks.
 
@DoubleAA I'd have to put the booklets too close together or rearrange my shas to put them all next to the most relevant volumes
... given that all of our books so far are about mo'adim
Putting them in tighter might work, booklet-wise, but it'd probably completely obscure the names of the masechtot
 
7:25 PM
... which might not be a bad idea. As it is, the only titles showing are those before and after the first booklet.
 
@IsaacMoses I'm not sure I like the idea of putting them in the G'mara volumes. They're not good to have at hand when learning G'mara. But if you wish to do so, then a suggestion: Put the G'mara on a shelf or table where there's no shelf above and put the MY publications into the relevant G'mara volumes sticking out the top. Have them face the same way the G'mara volumes do, and take the photo from the left not the right.
 
@msh210 I'm ambivalent, too, about the particular books. I used the shas because it fills out the shelf, doesn't distractingly present any particular contemporary books, and happens to have a color that's close to that of the titles on the booklets. I could try composing a shelf of holiday-relevant books and artifacts, instead.
Having the booklets hang out like this is the least-awkward way I could think of to show all of the booklet covers.
... another way could be to have a shelf of stuff weighing down the top edges of the booklets, letting the booklets hang down over the front edge of the shelf. My shelves are wide enough to accommodate four booklets with some overlap
 
@IsaacMoses If you want to show them in their native environments / in use, the Pesach booklet should go in a hagada; the yamim noraim booklet should go in a machzor; the Chanuka booklet should sit near the candles; not sure about Purim. If you want to show them shelved, then they shouldn't stick out at all, but that of course defeats the purpose of taking the picture. But showing them in the G'mara is nisht a hin un nisht a her.
 
@msh210 I think it may be difficult to achieve showing four covers and any sort of realistic environment simultaneously. I was using the shas more as a generic Jewish-scholarship background. I agree that relevant books and artifacts would make a more appropriate background.
 
@IsaacMoses Sorry -- I'm not trying to be nitpicky.
 
7:39 PM
@msh210 Not sure about Purim??
 
@IsaacMoses Well, depends on the version of the publication.
 
@msh210 I appreciate the feedback!
 
@IsaacMoses But, yeah, that's a good one.
 
It took me approximately a minute to put together the pic I put up above. I'm glad I did, because it's helped generate ideas for a better composition that I can do later.
 
7:44 PM
@IsaacMoses Even if you go with the books-sticking-out-off-the-shelf look as in that pic, I think turn them around and shoot from the left.
 
@msh210 Oh right. I meant to ask: Why?
 
I put that together for the Jewcer page -- it was out of season so I didn't have everything on hand to populate the seder plate, but something like that would work for the haggadah companion.
 
@MonicaCellio Four individual photos, arranged in a square, could work.
 
And of course we have Isaac's photo for DoA. I suppose we could do multiple ads (linking to the same pubs page), though we probably don't want four. OTOH, we could rotate images.
@IsaacMoses oh! Yes, that would work.
 
@IsaacMoses There's no spine to speak of, so the "visible spine" rule for shelving books doesn't hold. And I just think having all the covers face the same way looks better. Maybe others differ, though: it's an opinion.
 
7:47 PM
... and we've got existing ones for three of them.
 
Well, could -- need to try it out to make sure it's still clear at that scale.
 
@MonicaCellio "we could rotate images" how?
... and wouldn't that defeat the purpose of using all four (viz to show that there are four)?
 
@MonicaCellio Doesn't have to be too clear. Just clear enough what's being shown.
 
@msh210 can't we replace the image on the community ad by editing the meta post throughout the year? (I didn't mean an automatic rotation.) We'd want to be clear up front that we intend to do that, in case it affects people's voting habits.
 
@MonicaCellio Oh, I thought you meant automatic. Yes, we can do it manually afaik.
@MonicaCellio Automatic may be possible too -- we can look into how the bounties-up-for-grabs ad works.
 
7:49 PM
@msh210 true. I'd been thinking (vaguely) seasonal rotations -- show one that's coming up or, in slow seasons, just one we want to highlight -- but we would lose the "hey look at all these" angle.
 
I'll take a C-MY photo on Chanuka and see about arranging a quad.
 
@msh210 oh, good point. It'd be great if we could just define the ad with four images and have one chosen at display time.
 
@MonicaCellio And do an A/B test measuring click-through rates by which ad is shown. :-)
 
@IsaacMoses thanks. And I'll see if I can improve the Pesach one, unless somebody else wants to. (I think my seder plate is pretty, but at that scale any seder plate would do, I expect.)
 
@MonicaCellio I think it's fine as is. (But I don't know how it'd look next to the others.)
 
7:51 PM
@msh210 ok, we can wait for the quad image and then decide.
 
Sheesh. I've given up 12,550 points in MY bounty offers. I had no idea it was that much. (The above discussion got me curious.)
Hm, my MY profile says 12,750, while SEDE says 12,550. I wonder if 200 were on a now-deleted question or something.
(Or maybe 100 were, and 100 are not in SEDE yet because they're too new.)
 
I think, but am not certain, that bounties are refunded when posts are deleted. (I don't think they designed it that way; I think I heard that it's a side-effect of something else.) I can think of a place to look for evidence on another site.
 
8:11 PM
@msh210 @MonicaCellio I agree. Shrunk down to it's portion of a community promotion ad, I think it'll be good enough to give the necessary impression, with little marginal benefit to making a whole new composition.
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