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1:00 AM
@YeZ I was looking at the badges page to see if Monica's badge came in.....congrats on parshanut!
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1:15 AM
Maybe non-Jewish blood is redder because they don't have to salt their meat. More iron. Less sodium. — Double AA ♦ 17 mins ago
Do we need , for questions like this one and the two that I linked to in a comment, under it?
 
 
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3:06 AM
Someone help me understand the comments under this answer? .....the code markdown is not the problem.
.....but I gtg now.
 
YeZ
@Shokhet thanks!
 
3:59 AM
@Shokhet Is that on topic?
 
@DoubleAA We've assumed it to be for Jon Skeet (twice). I was working on that precedent.
If you think it isn't, then close/migrate/whatever. (I noticed it already has one close vote.)
 
@Shokhet Jon Skeet asked about the calendar. This is not about the calendar.
JS didn't ask for a program that does X. He wanted the rules of X (so that he could write a program).
 
@DoubleAA What about this Skeet question, or this non-Skeet question?
@DoubleAA If you feel that's distinction enough.....tbh, I have no idea between these few questions what is on-topic and what isn't.
 
@Shokhet The former question is just about when a birthday year is vizaviz leap years. Nothing inherent about programming.
@Shokhet The latter question is asking for a Torah rule presented in a certain structure. We know Torah rules so we could provide that.
 
@DoubleAA I had a הו"א tonight's question would be more similar to the latter one.
 
4:11 AM
@Shokhet This question is asking for software with a specific goal. I guess it's not that different than judaism.stackexchange.com/q/49060/759
@Shokhet If he had asked us to give him a pseudo-code algorithm for such an implementation that would be parallel.
 
@DoubleAA Okay; got it.
Like I've mentioned in various MY chatrooms -- I don't understand code and programming (yet?) .....a lot of this is a bit over my head. Thanks for helping me understand :)
1 hour ago, by Shokhet
Someone help me understand the comments under this answer? .....the code markdown is not the problem.
^^^ just reread them, still not understanding what s/he's after.
Problematic part is "Could we say, that if their intention in making bridges and marketplaces would be for us, than the money which they made could be consider as theirs, but since they didnt make it for us, then God is not gonna our toiling in Torah for gold and silver so to say?" .....that doesn't appear to make any sense, at all.
 
4:33 AM
@YeZ I see that you like using the script, no? ;-)
 
YeZ
@Shokhet I'd never bother linking sources without it.
 
@YeZ I dunno about you, but I certainly used to, when necessary.
Go to chabad.org, click on the chumash (or nach) dropdown, select the perek etc etc
It's so much easier when using the script!
 
YeZ
@Shokhet Yeah, I used to also. But I also used to press the 2 button 3 times to make the letter a, and I'll never do that again.
 
@YeZ "press the 2 button 3 times to make the letter a" .....?
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YeZ
@Shokhet You're too young to remember texting before there were keyboard phones.
 
4:38 AM
@YeZ Oh! I've done that :)
I even know some people who prefer it to QWERTY, claiming that it's faster or easier.
Idiots Fools.
 
YeZ
@Shokhet much nicer.
 
@YeZ לשון נקי, right?
In all seriousness, I know a really nice family that consciously replaces "stupid" with "foolish" .....it's a much softer word, and using those words consciously rather than just saying them whenever they come to mind makes watching your speech easier.
 
YeZ
@Shokhet we've a few of those words in my family.
@Shokhet but now re-read my original comment, and let the hilarity ensue!
 
@YeZ Oh?
@YeZ Oy. No, I've never done that ;-)
 
5:23 AM
@DoubleAA Just curious; what do you think about that question now? (rev 6)
 
 
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6:33 AM
Am I confused, but is there an opinion of Rabbi Elazar (or Eliezer) in a mishna on the topic of במה שהותרה ונאסרה וחזרה והותרה תחזור להיתירה הראשון
 
@ShmuelBrin The Gemara on Yevamot 41a tries to contrast R Elazar with that opinion IIUC.
I'm not entirely sure what you are looking for...
 
 
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2:27 PM
Is this question, with its links to missionary materials, a sincere question about halacha or a sneaky gambit to use MY to spread these links?
 
2:48 PM
@IsaacMoses Congratulations! Now go for it on meta. ;)
This Community ♦ user is getting good!
Except he never gets any rep for his contributions. :/
 
@Scimonster I wasn't trying this time. It think probably what happened is that this is my first Winter with a real smartphone, so I'm more likely to get a pageload in at the critical time between the end of Shabbat and the end of Saturday, GMT.
 
@IsaacMoses What's a "real smartphone"? Or more likely, what's a "fake smartphone"?
 
3:04 PM
@Scimonster Well, my previous phone had very little memory for loading apps, though it had an Android OS on it. I think I used it less than I use my current one for things like MY due to that clunkiness, even if not directly related. Also, partly as a result of having a better phone, I've become less stingy with 3G data use (which I pay for roughly a la carte). (Though usually, on Motzaei Shabbat, I'm in a WiFi area.)
 
I'm 27 days away from Fanatic. Been going straight since the end of Rosh Hashanah, with no 3-day Sukkot to mess me up. :)
And 42 days away from Mi Yodeya Meta's first gold badge... unless the publications gets @IsaacMoses a Famous Question first. ;)
 
@IsaacMoses congrats! And there's enough time before the next two-day yom tov for you to get Fanatic if you're careful. :-)
@IsaacMoses I have been wondering about that. The newly-added source link is the one that someone has used to troll this site in the past, but that doesn't mean this user is doing so. (OTOH, it sounds like if it's a sincere question the user received an unsolicited mailing.)
 
3:23 PM
@MonicaCellio I'm of the same two minds. If it's trollery, it's a particularly well-written variety.
 
As an aside, other sites usually don't get Google-juice from SE, so while it could be an attempt to spread the links, it won't increase their page rank.
 
4:20 PM
@MonicaCellio @IsaacMoses Even if the post was well-intentioned, I see no problem removing superfluous links, particularly superfluous links to missionary sites!
 
4:33 PM
@msh210 @MonicaCellio @IsaacMoses Done.
 
@msh210 Y"K
This comment contributes to my suspicion. Most Jews (perhaps Teimanim excepted) would not associate our present practice of monogamy with "controversy."
 
4:48 PM
@IsaacMoses I think our friend Ali has gotten clever
or maybe one of his friends
coincidentally, I think it actually is a good question
 
@Daniel Stripped of the links, as it stands now, I agree with you.
@Daniel Actually, re-reading comments such as his first three on the question, I am more persuaded that the use of "we" in them may be disingenuous.
 
5:06 PM
@msh210 agreed. Thanks for editing.
 
... opening the question up, more explicitly, to answers that analyze the permissibly of pursuing curiosity about other religions for the purpose of incorporating their teachings into one's world-view.
... not, incidentally, invalidating Nail's answer, IMO
 
 
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YeZ
6:49 PM
I was wondering how this got so many votes. Then I saw the views - must have made the hot list.
@msh210 ich farshtein nisht
@IsaacMoses Ken yirbu- 10 more motzai shabboses to go!
 
@YeZ Sure did. And it has, of course, an attention-getting title.
@YeZ Still, the upvotes for your answer in particular demonstrate that many readers (myself among them) found it, in particular, to be valuable. Y"K
 
YeZ
@IsaacMoses Much appreciated.
 
7:05 PM
@YeZ Amen, I guess. Looks like I have to get through Bo, when Shabbat ends (for me) a little less than an hour before midnight GMT. That's getting close. We'll see.
@Mods tag synonym request: ->
 
7:24 PM
So this guy popped in, gave one answer, and then deleted his account....??? — Shokhet 11 secs ago
 
@Shokhet Presumably. It's not too surprising, given the sensitivity of the topic. This may be someone who wanted to relate personal experience but was afraid that a user account would link back to them in person.
 
@IsaacMoses Hm, interesting....
I would think that he would stick around a little bit, respond to comments on the answer....but no.
Also, doesn't it take a few days for a delete-account request to be filled?
 
@Shokhet Dunno. Never tried it.
 
@Shokhet Although, apparently, it only took 6 minutes
@IsaacMoses I deleted one SE account, a while ago....IIRC the documentation said that it took less than a week for it to go through
@IsaacMoses I pung you, before I realized that you already responded. Sorry!
 
8:06 PM
@Shokhet No harm done
 
@IsaacMoses Not the other way?
 
@DoubleAA Either way's fine with me.
... though maybe it'd be good to simultaneously rename to
 
YeZ
@IsaacMoses Hopefully it will be one of the least useful answers on the site.
 
@YeZ Amen
@Daniel Huh. This account was "last seen" (as of now) 2014-12-06 17:03:15Z. This one was created at 2014-12-06 17:11:29Z, eight minutes later.
 
YeZ
8:27 PM
@IsaacMoses The evidence is piling up?
 
(Note that the mods may be well aware of this information along with other information that either supports or contradicts your suspicion, and they would not be allowed to discuss it or anything they're doing about it in public.)
@YeZ To my mind, at least.
 
8:48 PM
@IsaacMoses mods can actually share anything that would be publicly discoverable if they wish, we just can't discuss anything that isn't discoverable without permission of the person whose private information it is
so, for example, we could say if someone got suspended in chat because any user could see that
 
YeZ
@AJHenderson So have there been any juicy year-long suspensions recently?
 
@AJHenderson Well, sure. I was referring to anything un-public, including, say, IP addresses, private communications with the user, or mod-only deliberations
 
yeah, I was just responding in regards to it not being a problem to share, say, the last seen and created date coincidence
and as an aside, mod flags are network wide, not just channel
(for the chat)
 
@AJHenderson Ah. "The site-moderators" (from the tooltip) means "all moderators of any site," eh? Good to know.
 
chat sends to all moderators, the only thing site specific in chat is private rooms
and even there, we can create a private room on any site, we just can't see private rooms we haven't been given access to on other sites
think the idea was that not all mods actually come on chat
 
8:52 PM
@AJHenderson I agree that there would be no technical problem for the mods to share this particular datum about timing in public
 
and no, the only fun really long suspensions I know of are the recently expired Ali one
seems he is a well known fella
(I hang out over on Christianity a bunch and chat with the other religious site mods, even though I'm not personally a religious site mod)
 
YeZ
@AJHenderson well, there's this one.
 
@AJHenderson There was some talk on MSE about a 7-year suspension.....I think all spam accounts are merged to that account, which is in perpetual suspension ;-)
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A: Why would a user be suspended for almost 7 years?

balphaAnna's answer is correct, but there is one other possible (and in a way, more innocent) reason for extremely long suspensions: The Super User moderators at some point started to merge all spam accounts into a single user (this has several interesting implications for spamfighting) instead of outr...

 
9:08 PM
@Shokhet interesting, that's from before my time as a moderator, possibly even my time on the network
I got started some time in late 2012
and wasn't a moderator until late 2013
 
@AJHenderson That's also before my time on the network -- I started around 7 months ago.
 
mods don't even do user merges anymore
SE staff do those
 
I don't even remember why I was looking at that answer; it may have come up in a search for something else
 
Flags raised in chat go to all mods on all sites; the chat system has the concept of "moderator" but not "moderator within a specific space only". Flags raised on posts or comments on main or meta go only to people with moderator status on that site -- the moderators and SE employees who have diamonds (CMs, some developers, a few others).
Spammers aren't merged into one uber-spammer account any more, by the way. SE has other ways of dealing with them.
 
NIFO
 
9:14 PM
@MonicaCellio I was wondering about that. Account deletion seems to be a much better option.
 
@AJHenderson quite
 
@Shokhet the point historically was to keep a record of the spammer to keep them from coming back
 
@AJHenderson Ah.
 
spammers in general are notoriously persistent buggers
given the choice to spend my day dealing with Ali or a particularly persistent spammer, I might have to carefully weigh my options
 
@AJHenderson @Shokhet SE has some sort of magic for keeping track of deleted accounts and preventing abuse behind the scenes, which they do not disclose.
 
9:16 PM
@AJHenderson I kind of thought Ali was fun
 
atleast Ali is occasionally entertaining, if not for the reasons he hopes
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@Shokhet so it used to be (she says vaguely) that they wanted to keep the accounts around as a way of tracking spammers across sites and over time, but they now have better ways to do that so we nuke 'em when we find 'em.
 
@AJHenderson I got my only Necromancer badge from one of his questions :)
 
nice
 
He was very persistent
 
9:17 PM
@MonicaCellio Ah. Interesting.
 
and did a good job of learning the jargon (at least for Judaism)
as evidenced by the latest question
 
@Shokhet nice. And Nice. :-)
 
@Daniel That is, assuming this is the same user.
@MonicaCellio :)
 
@Shokhet Yeah, I don't have any special IP lookup powers
 
@IsaacMoses well, we could tell you, but then they'd have to kill us
 
9:22 PM
@AJHenderson Doesn't sound worth it.
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no, probably not
@Daniel in that case it doesn't sound like Ali to me, from what I recall, isn't he the one who would redefine words as he saw fit to prove his point
or was that another person I'm thinking of
I remember having 2 or 3 chat trolls/problem users in the course of like 3 months, one of who was Ali
 
@AJHenderson Yeah he did
But he learned which words to redefine
 
ah, yes
 
@AJHenderson yeah I remember that too
@AJHenderson He's good at asking what looks like a good question
even if it's not actually a good question
 
well, if you took it at face value, it would be a good question
but then you give a good answer and things go downhill from there
 
9:35 PM
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Q: Make the "flag for moderator" tool-tip in chat more accurate

Isaac MosesThe tooltip that comes up when you mouse-over the flag for moderator option in chat is: Moderator flags are only seen by the site-moderators, and should be used to indicate serious issues with a message, and other administrative issues. When I read this, I interpret "site-moderators" as "th...

 
@IsaacMoses Mysterious upvotes follow.....chat-effect at play?
 
@Shokhet haha
Incidentally, in case anyone's wondering, this was prompted by my making the described mistake today when I flagged my own message with commentary intended for the MY mods. I don't particularly mind that other SE mods (e.g. AJ) saw it, but I didn't mean to bother them all with it.
 
@IsaacMoses which is also why I materialized
and danced around the topic
because I was feeling too lazy to make a private room
 
@AJHenderson Thanks
 
and it isn't a bother, there are a few of us who regularly hang around chat and deal with such flags
 
 
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11:54 PM
What's the name of that white Chumash with all the fancy maps in it? judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/49209/…
 

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