@Yishai I know.....tried to flag it, but the system didn't let me....
@Shokhet, definitely a duplicate, but the system won't mark it as such, because it lacks an answer. — Yishai2 mins ago
@Yishai I think we can just leave it alone.....something tells me that Dr Boxman's question might be better received here than the other
( ....why ask davka about the Beis Hamikdash? Once you find a year, do the math yourself! .....whatever )
And whichever mods saw my flag on this comment ...... I see where he wanted to link to, and I know that mods have extra comment-editing powers, and was wondering if those could be used to fix the link rot in that comment
The link in the flag comment is where he wanted to link to, but because it had so so so many characters, I was not able to explain more fully what the intent of that flag was.
@MonicaCellio @msh210 @DoubleAA ^^^^^ this message
To make it explicit, especially since I'm now in a more frequently-visited area: If you are a Yodeyan who happens to live in or visit Silver Spring or the nearby offshoot, Washington, DC, I would love to meet you. There is off-network contact information in my MY profile.
@TRiG I've seen people on FB suggesting similarly that travel agents should buy up blocks of seats and resell them with a guarantee of single-sex, at a premium. Any such market-based solution depends on the airline having the fortitude to stand up to bullying in real-time and remove it as a free option.
I'm struggling to find a reason/meaning behind saying 'עושה השלום' with a 'ה' at the end of amidah and during kaddish for the yamim nora'im period.
I have heard (unverified source) that there is opposition to this practice since it is based on a pasuk, and it is not necessarily desirable to cha...
On a different topic......what do you guys think I should do about this? (ignore, respond politely, flag as rude.....)
Yes @Shokhet in that xkcd you think I'm a asshole for what I say but when I think you are a asshole when you are killing chickens my opinions don't matter atleast I didn't shut someone up from expressing their opinions and i'm the asshole holy shit.. I don't even know how you sleep at night. I don't understand what is this Q&A site full of trolls or something I don't even believe there is a single jewish person on here.. either this is how you guys act or you are just trolling.. I like stackoverflow but some of these communities are ridiculous. If you don't praise their religion or agree..etc — SSpoke59 mins ago
@YEZ You got this too, I see
I dont want to know why you do it, I want to know how you guys can believe in God doing this kind of ritual I seen posts where Jews say they wouldn't even harm a fly. So don't tell me that I am ranting when I say it's a satanic ritual because when you say that you are just being ignorance to the facts. — SSpoke1 hour ago
And responded
@SSpoke Whether or not we are being ignorant (we aren't - a brief google search could probably find you some of the meaning behind the ritual, none of which has to do with worshiping Satan), you are ranting. Ranting is asking a question which includes a tirade which is not relevant to the question. You could make it not a rant by asking the question without the tirade. Although, "I don't want to know why you do it" basically is a confession that you have no question, aren't open to hearing answers, and just want to yell. — YEZ19 mins ago
@YEZ I think it was Community noting an offensive flag on a comment with curse words and automatically processing it. There are some secret rules for when flags are auto-handled. I bet this is one of them
No, you can't hocus pocus a comment to be banished to the outer realms of the ether, but there is a short list of words that, if contained within a comment, cause the comment to be removed after a single flag.
Remember when we had a problem with folks brow beating other users about their accept ...
@Shokhet ... especially when it's not someone you know or can talk to in-person. Sometimes, on SE, people can manage to simmer down, but when a person's really adamant about fighting on a certain point, it's unlikely that they're going to change their mind, at least about that point. Most likely, the best thing to do is move on.
@DoubleAA Those might not be the right words, but it's inappropriate to force one's particular frumkeit on the people who happen to be around oneself.
@YEZ You da man
@YEZ I think that makes sense wherever the issue pertains to YN collectively and not to RH and YK separately. The question at hand is a good example of that. Something that, say, compares the RH service with that of YK, would IMO get the RH and YK tags.
@IsaacMoses One isn't in this case. One can ask for others to be nice and move, one can sit there, or one can leave the plane. How is that forcing anything on anyone?
@YEZ Please suggest a suitable tag wiki for your new tag.
When a new tag is created, should there be some kind of notification to the user? This could serve a dual purpose:
To make the user check that this tag is really required. Is it spelt right? Might there be a more appropriate tag to use instead? - See Warning or confirmation on new tag creatio...
In retrospect of this massive cleanup operation, I would like to ask the community how they feel about a warning or confirmation (or just special highlighting) on new tag creation.
Everybody hates stock "are you sure?" confirmation, but a lot of tags get created by mistake (and then used ad naus...
@DoubleAA Is that what happened in this case? From the article, it sounded like people asked for others to move and then resorted to standing in the aisle and refusing to move until their preferences were accommodated. But maybe I misread.
I flagged a comment as obsolete, as it asked a question on a post of mine, which I edited the post to address, and the asker accepted the answer (thus indicating that he accepted my response, I assume). So the original comment is now obsolete. However, there is another comment responding to that...
@IsaacMoses Looking at the notes we took at the time, it seems the developers ran into problems implementing it. (But I don't really know the details.)
> “I ended up sitting next to a … man who jumped out of his seat the moment we had finished taking off and proceeded to stand in the aisle,” a woman passenger identified only as Galit told Ynet. The man had asked her to move from the seat beside her husband to accommodate his religious beliefs, but she refused.
@TRiG I don't see what's wrong with standing up unless the attendants tell you not to. If they violate federal laws they can be arrested for violating federal laws. I still don't see any bigotry here.
> If anyone else tried this behaviour on any other airline, the plane would be immediately diverted to the nearest available airport and the disruptor would be escorted off the plane in handcuffs… assuming they survived the initial confrontation with the air marshal. Note to Muslim potential hijackers – dress up Jewish, it’s a free pass to behave how you like on a plane with impunity.
Incidentally, I recognise the name Son of Roj Blake from h2g2. He's something of a provocateur. He enjoys causing a fuss. Very intelligent, but sometimes quite childish.
Response from katydid:
> @sonofrojblake: you raise a good point. One of the recent plane diversions that resulted in arrest was because of a scuffle when someone wouldn’t let someoen else recline the seat back–that’s WAY less dangerous and aggressive than refusing to sit down and causing a fuss because someone can’t tolerate girl cooties.
(Which, incidentally, is what this is about. Of course it's misogyny. Misogyny doesn't magically become less misogynistic because it's based on religion.)
@TRiG Oh man. See, I was about to point out that it's important to separate between bad behavior (present) and thoughtcrime (depends on who's looking at it).
@TRiG Misogyny may well be present, but it needn't be for people to desire separation of the sexes. As @DoubleAA indicated above by comparing to separate bathrooms.
... so while that may be what this is about for you, AFAIC, the only thing worth getting worked up about here is the disruptive behavior
@IsaacMoses I do find separate bathrooms odd. Especially in small cafés, wherein both bathrooms are identically a single room containing both a toilet and a handbasin.
Either way, sorry, but this computer has to switch off now. I'll likely be back again after eating, at which time I'll reply to anything that needs to be replied to.
The difference between a poor or meh question and a stellar question can often simply be someone understanding it and providing it a great answer. I can't begin to count the number of times I've justified re-opening a question as a moderator by saying:
Look at the answer it got, though. This ...
Just cleared 2500 rep.....was all excited to suggest my first tag synonym (noticed we have one question under tehilim, when it should really go under tehilim-psalms) ......but I don't have a score of 5 in that tag :(
@YEZ Only because people wouldn't know what I was saying.
... there's a standard English stand-in for korban, which is what one should probably use. It's just unfortunate that it happens to be not a translation and possibly misleading
@IsaacMoses That's why you have to follow R' Aharon Lichtenstein's lead and just make them up as you go along. Although he happens to know the Latin roots better than I do.
@YEZ I don't think there's a single English word. While it's not a correct translation, when I need a single word I usually reach for "offering", which at least doesn't have the misleading implications of "sacrifice".
It is that which enables us to approach, but that doesn't compress well.
Finally someone who doesn't mold their beliefs to whatever situation they are currently in. I got to give respect to this guy Clint Eastwood, if his bible says there is no free will, he believes it. — SSpoke5 hours ago
I don't even....
@majnemɪzdæn Was the Russian character to easy for people to type? ;)
@Shokhet Yeah, I saw this, it's actually why I went back and edited this answer. I didn't expect him to unaccept it, though :D
Irrespective of that, there's this question: Given that Clint's answer there doesn't seem to fit any normative Jewish theology that I've ever heard of, is it deleteable?
@Shokhet I don't know if non-mods can, you need 20k to vote to delete answers anyway
(For those interested in the the topic of deleting answers that are inconsistent with Jewish thought, there is an extended discussion of that here: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/468/2013/10/4)
@IsaacMoses that's a good point (particularly the blasphemy angle). While we don't want to be in the business of declaring what is or isn't blasphemy, we can still reasonably say that the farther afield something is the more, and more promptly, it needs to add support. And now that users can get to their own deleted posts (recent ones anyway, or via comments in the inbox), the consequences are less dire. Undeletion after repair is possible.
@YEZ answers that are merely incorrect shouldn't generally be deleted, just downvoted. Answers that don't answer the question, fundamentally misunderstand the question, or are incomprehensible should be deleted. And then there are the things that are quasi-answers, like one-liners that need to be expanded; sometimes those should be comments, sometimes they should get post notices, and sometimes they should just go away, so use your best judgement.
@HodofHod Do you think these comments should be turned into an easily findable Meta post? .....it's kinda unfair if site policy is buried in ancient comments somewhere (even if those comments are just common sense)