V'dibarta Bam

So... Congratulations on graduating to a full-fledged Stack Exchange site! We'd kinda like to do something special for y'all, and this is currently the top-ranked feature request: Add Markdown and/or OneBox support for BibleGateway That said, oneboxing is troublesome. BibleGateway doesn't offer...

@JonEricson How do you mean?

Jon Ericson

5:45 AM

@HodofHod That's right. I'm not a huge fan of BibleGateway. I'll certainly use your script when I want to reference Tanach texts.

HodofHod

@JonEricson Yay! Another beta-tester! OOC, why not BG?

Jon Ericson

@HodofHod It's adtastic. Also, copy-n-paste works better for other sites. (I've got a user script that someone on C.SE wrote a while back, but it's still awkward.)

HodofHod

/pauses ad blocker

Ah, I see.

/unpauses ad blocker

Interesting, their only two "Jewish" bibles are both Messianic.

Jon Ericson

@HodofHod That too. I wish the JPS if not the NJPS were there. :-(

Menachem

7:12 AM

@HodofHod step 3 for chrome needs to be corrected

HodofHod

@Menachem Got it.

Menachem

@HodofHod s/any//

HodofHod

...or not

:)

Double AA

1:07 PM

18 hours ago, by Double AA

@HodofHod Perhaps post an answer?

Seth J

1:38 PM

@HodofHod Some of the instructions seem a little more complicated than need be. Why so many spacing options (and restrictions); why not one standard? Why so many numbering options (and uncertainties); why one standard? What's the t flag? Why would a verse number exceed 3 digits? What's the problem that is unlikely to be fixed soon?

@HodofHod Y"K, by the way. You've done an amazing thing (if I can figure out how to use it)!

Incidentally, @mods, are we going to try to standardize references using this tool? It seems like it would be very beneficial, yet very difficult. I can't use it on most of my posts, because I can't install it on my primary device, and my (main) secondary device is my phone.

Monica Cellio

2:16 PM

@HodofHod very nice! And anyone who was playing with earlier versions should look at the doc again (in particular, "ref:" has changed to something more extensible, yay).

@SethJ initially there was just one way and people asked for more flexibility. The goal here should be to reacognize as many things that people would reasonably type as is practical. We probably want to have one suggestion up front for the "I don't care; just gimme a syntax" crowd. But some people are used to typing text citations in paritular ways; let's tie into that, not try to retrain them.

Double AA

tinyurl.com/shabbatshalombadge

Daniel

@DoubleAA We should have that picture automatically be posted here every Friday afternoon :)

@HodofHod Any future plans for links to pages of gemara?

Isaac Moses

@Daniel I love the idea of machine shmura and all, but I draw the line at blessings. I'd rather get them from a person each week than from a robot!

Daniel

@IsaacMoses Just wait. Once we're all just brains implanted in robots, you'll be attending weddings with robots and having robot rabbis :)

Isaac Moses

@SethJ We oughtn't require installation of a tool for people to do the first-class activities on the site (posting Q&A).

@Daniel <Not making a knee-jerk Supreme Court joke>

Monica Cellio

2:35 PM

@IsaacMoses yeah, what he said. This is a wonderful tool to have available, and -- as with any other improvement -- editors are free to enhance posts (if, say, someone cited but didn't link a source). But it shouldn't be a requirement.

msh210

4:02 PM

@DoubleAA Also brown rice has more fiber than pearled barley (I assume). Otoh it also has arsenic, apparently. [Just catching up on backread.]

@HodofHod Wow. Thank you!

Seth J

4:47 PM

gabriel, welcome to Mi Yodeya, and thanks very much for posting this question here, since I suspect it comes to many kosher-eating Americans' minds! (I know it has to mine.) I hope you'll look around and find other content here that's to your taste, perhaps including our 278 other questions about kosher. Please consider registering your account, which will give you access to more of the site's features. — Isaac Moses 2 hours ago

@IsaacMoses "to your taste"! Badum bum! :)

Isaac Moses

@SethJ :) Thanks. That's actually not the first time I've punned in that spot. There was also one time I was sorely tempted to pun, but restrained myself for propriety's sake.

I take that back. I think I found it, and it looks like I did not restrain myself:

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Mordechai, welcome to Mi Yodeya, and thanks very much for bringing your question here! I hope you'll look around the site and find other material that suits you, perhaps including our 133 other questions about clothing. Please consider registering your account, which will give you access to more of the site's features. — Isaac Moses May 28 at 4:56

Seth J

5:06 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, thoughts on the revision history here?

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Q: Is it prohibited to derive benefit from a mixture of milk and meat if the animal was improperly slaughtered?

Is it prohibited to derive benefit from a mixture of milk and meat if the animal was improperly slaughtered? Assume the animal slaughtered, like the milk-giving animal, is kosher, but the slaughter did not meet standards of kashrus. Would one be permitted to derive benefit from the mixture (i.e. ...

halacha animals rambam basar-bechalav maseches-kerisos

revision history

Looks like SAH changed the question in response to Shalom's answer.

I'm thinking it should have been asked separately.

May I edit it and recast is as a separate question? (Full disclosure: I intend to answer it.)

msh210

@SethJ No, in response to the comments. The answer came after the edits, if I'm reading the timestamps right.

Seth J

@msh210 Hmm, the answer doesn't give the logic that the paragraph in the question seeks.

msh210

@SethJ Oh, the last bit appended to the Q?

I see.

Seth J

@msh210 "I would also be interested in hearing a presentation/explanation of the Rambam's logic, as it doesn't make much sense to me."

msh210

@SethJ Yeah, I think it'd be fair to remove the last sentence from the Q (with an explanatory revision summary).

HodofHod

5:38 PM

@Daniel Eventually, yes.

msh210

"… gently, with soft language. He should make sure the fellow knows that he's telling him this only for his own benefit, to bring him to life in the world to come.…" Incidentally, I'm pretty sure Rambam means that the rebuke is meant to bring him to eternal life when he reaches the world to come, not that the rebuke is meant to cause him to reach the world to come sooner.

HodofHod

@SethJ I realized as I was writing it that it could be improved greatly. I'll try to make some things clearer.

@MonicaCellio @SethJ @msh210 Thank you!

Monica Cellio

@HodofHod here's one simplification for installation:

in Debugging for TanachReferencer, 3 hours ago, by Monica Cellio

@IsaacMoses @HodofHod - if you go to the GitHub page for the JS file (the one that's marked up in HTML) and click the "raw" button, it goes to the plain old JS file. If you already have GreaseMonkey active, then it intercepts that and asks if you want to install it, which is what I did. No download/save/paste necessary (but make sure you have GM first).

HodofHod

@MonicaCellio Thanks! I've put it in.

Monica Cellio

@HodofHod happy to help. Let others benefit from my bumbling. :-)

Seth J

6:45 PM

@msh210 Hmm, I'm not convinced that the entire second paragraph belongs. Even if you read the timestamps correctly, the answers seem to totally ignore this paragraph and introduce the idea contained in the paragraph as if it is new. In other words, despite common practice to the contrary, I'm advocating altering the question to fit the answers.

msh210

7:07 PM

@SethJ Isn't Shalom's first paragraph answering "Why not?"?

msh210

7:19 PM

ooh, nice new layout at judaism.stackexchange.com/help/privileges

Congrats to @charleskoppelman, our newest closer/reopener.

Seth J

7:37 PM

@msh210 Mazal Tov @charleskoppelman. Maybe the Tigers or the Red Sox can use you.

@msh210 Um, I don't really think so.(?) Maybe someone else disagrees (obviously you do; I'm looking for a tie-breaker)? It says that they don't agree; it doesn't say why, though.

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