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12:08 AM
To the person who just received a flag response from me: I apologize for not realizing in time that the action I was suggesting is not yet available to you. I will try to be more careful in the future.
@MosheP. we should keep an eye on it, but as @Isaac said, we've dealt with worse. I think it's a valid question (though I'd like to see more context/motivation).
 
 
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4:13 AM
@MosheP. Wow. Interesting. Thanks!
@MosheP. Ha! Even more interesting (to me).
@MosheP. Never heard of that before. Reason #716 to join you in the land of the Jews.
Trying to flesh out a question about the word אבר, and I discover that it only shows up twice, from what I can tell, in Tanach, and in both cases, it means "wing"!
 
4:36 AM
@IsaacMoses Don't forget Eze 17 3
 
Hi all :)
@IsaacMoses:
@MonicaCellio:
Could two or three of us please speak privately? This is because I'd like to discuss something, but I don't want it to be logged.
And this chat room seems to log everything I type forever.
 
@unforgettableid Everything is written in a book.
 
@unforgettableid hello. Yes, most things on the network are public by design. Private chat rooms are possible and are supposed to be reserved for "matters of moderation". Would what you want to talk about qualify?
 
@MonicaCellio I think so.
@IsaacMoses True. Still, it's nice that repentance is possible and that people forget things. Unfortunately, the Internet can be much slower to forget than people are.
 
@unforgettableid ok, I will invite you into a private room then. FYI, what we say will be visible to the site's three moderators (me, msh210, DoubleAA) and SE staff members, but not others.
 
4:39 AM
@DoubleAA It ain't forgetting. This cycle of Nach Yomi hasn't getten there yet.
 
@MonicaCellio Excellent! Thank you.
 
@unforgettableid I meant here, too. Even the "private" room a mod can set up still logs everything, just not publicly.
 
@IsaacMoses Private logging is fine.
 
@unforgettableid ok, you should have gotten an invitation. And yes, as Isaac said, there's still a log; it's just more restricted.
 
@DoubleAA I forgot to try prefixes and didn't use a stemming search engine.
 
4:42 AM
@unforgettableid you should have access now.
 
@MonicaCellio Ah, pressing "Refresh" worked.
 
Where does one look up etymology of Rabbinic Hebrew?
 
@IsaacMoses: Dunno. Maybe that would make a good question. :)
 
5:09 AM
@IsaacMoses I have suggested an edit which fixes that. :)
 
5:50 AM
@unforgettableid Aww. Spoilsport.
 
 
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7:12 AM
@IsaacMoses Are they up to Devarim 32:11?
(@HodofHod I completely forgot your script works in chat. Thanks!)
Tehillim 91:4 you probably know from your previous regular Tanakh study.
 
 
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11:08 AM
@IsaacMoses This sefer may interest you hebrewbooks.org/…
 
 
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WAF
12:39 PM
@HodofHod Wearing mine with pride!
 
 
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2:46 PM
@DoubleAA Are evra and eiver the same thing?
 
3:43 PM
I just logged in for the first time in a while and found this crazy hat thing
what is that?
 
4:45 PM
@IsaacMoses I assume evra is just a construct state. Note that MM translates it as pinion. Then note that apparently a pinion is a sort of feather/wing.
If they are really different words that would be quite the coincidence.
 
 
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6:02 PM
There was an answer flagged twice as "not an answer." What surprised me is that it seems that it does contain the kernel of a good answer, but more importantly, no one had commented on it to request clarification before flagging.
 
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A: Commentless downvotes

Shog9 Commentless downvotes do very little to improve the site. Oh, but you're wrong! Voting is at least - and probably more - important than commenting when it comes to improving the quality of the information presented by the site. Up-voted questions are given more visibility, while down-voted q...

 
@IsaacMoses Not the same, I think. These were requests to have the answer removed completely, without even a cursory inquiry.
 
@HodofHod I think it'd be appropriate to commentify the answer, which would be a likely mod-response to such flags in this case. (I think I know which one you mean.)
... since it's essentially a reference-only answer, and the reference itself doesn't even answer the question all by itself.
 
@IsaacMoses Right. I suspect any mods (or 10kers) would respond to the flag by commenting and inquiring (I did). I guess I'm surprised that both of whomever flagged it didn't do the same, is all.
 
@HodofHod Yes, commenting and working to improve is potentially more productive. Not everyone has the wherewithal to be optimally productive, all the time. FWIW, I didn't flag, but I also didn't take the time to constructively comment (Y"K she'azarta, BTW) because I didn't have time to look up the reference and ascertain what the cited term meant.
 
6:09 PM
@IsaacMoses True. It does contain a tiny lead as to where his thinking is headed. But "דַּי לַחֲכִּימָא בִּרְמִיזָא" isn't really enough for us here :D
 
@HodofHod It's enough for a potentially-valuable comment on the question, not for an answer
... We aim to serve a population with varying levels of חֲכִּימָא
 
@IsaacMoses Agreed. That being said, if the answer does not get improved (by OP or someone else) I'd agree with downvoting, and possibly comment conversion, but not deletion, I think. There is an attempt there.
 
@HodofHod Absolutely. And greeting it with appreciative, constructive criticism was the right thing to do.
 
:D
I feel like I sometimes see comments go the other way, which is unfortunate.
 
@HodofHod "דרכיה דרכי נועם"
 
6:18 PM
"וכל נתיבותיה שלום"
 
 
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7:22 PM
@IsaacMoses What is community wiki?
 
@IsaacMoses Thank you. Incidently, the last few lines of the page you just pointed me to, starting with the words "Self answer questions" seems to be completely out of place.
 
@MosheP. They do, don't they? The problem is that this page was originally written as a list of things you can do once you get to 100 rep, but it's been titled with just one of them.
... or something like that. It's part of judaism.stackexchange.com/help/privileges, which contains other pages with the same problem.
 
@IsaacMoses OK. Did you have a butchers at the sefer I linked above?
 
@MosheP. Not yet. I'm on the corn right now.
 
 
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10:36 PM
There was some discussion on MSO about questions asked out of curiosity, with positive results. We've had other questions that aren't about a problem directly faced by the asker (like, say, about keeping Shabbat in space). This kind of inquisitiveness is, dare I say, a hallmark of Jewish study and I don't think that alone is reason to reject a question. As for the issues of individual variation (is this person married vs. single, etc), a good answer would address all the parameters that matter. — Monica Cellio 13 secs ago
I suspect the discussion of this ^^^ is bigger than that particular question, so bringing it here to Bam in case anyone wants to discuss.
 
@MonicaCellio It looks like there's been a lot more discussion there since the last time I visited that post. Much of it probably deserves consideration. With respect to MY policy on question inclusion, I think long-standing precedent as well as our stated policy against asking for pesak indicate that we are certainly open to hypothetical questions. Also the fact that they are, as you said, "a hallmark of Jewish study."
 
@IsaacMoses yeah, this is an area where if it's a practical matter for you, the question is more likely to be closed as treading too close to p'sak.
 
@MonicaCellio ... if it's a Halacha question. If it's a best-practices question, then it falls on the intersection of in-scope here and [some of] the rest of the network's ideal of practicality.
 
10:55 PM
@IsaacMoses true. I should have been more precise.
 
@MonicaCellio This comment to which you were responding is anecdotal evidence that the quoted passage of our FAQ is, in fact, harmfully misleading, as suggested by that MSO post.
... but for all the discussion on MSO, nothing's been done about it.
 
@IsaacMoses yeah, I don't know if we can edit that locally, either. I need to investigate that.
 
@MonicaCellio If you can, that's a relatively new development
 
11:11 PM
@IsaacMoses the move from the FAQ to the Help Center gave us limited editing ability -- I think we can edit the lists of on- and off-topic subjects, for instance. But most of it is fixed.
 

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