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1:26 AM

@WesleySitu Since things seem to have stagnated here a bit, I'll tell you that you're very close on step 8. If you have "rotate" "??" "one third" - how could I precisely tell you exactly what to rotate and by how much?

Alconja

1:47 AM

As for the final solution to the uncovered rebus itself, I've just posted two hints:

The rebus resolves to a short and well known phrase.

If you did everything correctly, there may have been an instruction that seemed arbitrary, or even unnecessary... It was, in fact, essential.

user189275

2:01 AM

@Alconja: (I am not asking for a third hint) Which rebus - the 8 or the picture ?

Alconja

The two hints added to the question, and written in italics above relate to the final picture, which is also a rebus (i.e. the starred picture that @WesleySitu posted above).

user189275

@Alconja: But the 8 is solved ? I don't think so.

Alconja

Not fully (what it needs to do is solved, just not exactly how to interpret the rebus). That's what my previous comment to Wesley related to.

user189275

@Alconja: Okay, but is @WesleySitu 's picture is 100% right and is the final one needed to solve the actual rebus ?

Alconja

That is correct. I.e. that is the final rebus.

user189275

2:11 AM

Oh yeah, I am very sure Hint 2 refers to step 7

user189275

If my previous comment is right (now I'm a bit skeptic about that), then "It was, in fact, essential." probably refers to i. shading so that some of the signs could not be seen ii. (Not sure) The other signs are important.

user189275

iii. It may also be some saying like the front of the cube is dark or something like that, which means the light source is at back.

user189275

@BeastlyGerbil: I wasn't here for the most part, so any ideas about what is Hint 2 and what it could mean ?

user189275

2:36 AM

K could be cake.

user189275

(Anyway, you should ignore my comments, because extremely amazingly and ridiculously, (not almost; all) every assumption I made on this chat has turned out to be wrong later)

user189275

I searched for idioms for K/cake + cube, but no sane results

ffao

3:14 AM

what came to my mind as an arbitrary instruction was not step 7, but "use thin lines"

what would have changed had we used thicker lines?

Deusovi

3:28 AM

What came to mind for me was instruction 1.

Why did we need to identify the cube if we immediately ignored it?

ffao

instruction 2 relies on the cube being identified

Deusovi

How?

Doesn't seem to rely on it to me. We just placed the three pieces into the grid.

ffao

to me it says "top face of the first cube on the top-left corner, top face of the second cube in the bottom-left corner"

which is how we placed the tiles

Deusovi

Oh, fair enough.

I thought we just placed them in the unambiguous way that put the key in front of the lock and overlapped the dot.

ffao

well, that's what we actually did, but I think if you look at it like that all three pieces are clued

and you don't need to guess that the dot is the overlap

Wesley Situ

3:36 AM

regarding the pen thickness

if i used a thicker line the mark on the top right piece of the resorted image would be larger

the tile with the empty square drawn on it

so if i was supposed to use an even finer line, that mark in the corner shouldnt be there

user189275

Which symbols were covered by the grey portion except the star ?

Wesley Situ

filled in square

B / C / Filled Square + B / Star

3 hours later…

Wesley Situ

6:46 AM

some more random thoughts: Instruction 1 starts off with "Look at the number on the box" not "Identify which cube we have", taking the instructions as they are

so we had to get the number by identifying the cubes, not see which cubes we have by looking at the number

Wesley Situ

7:22 AM

also, relative to the arrow, the guy is "before" the arrow, so possibly B4, indicating the 4th tile with a B. though the "one third" doesn't quite fit for me if i interpret the rebus as "Rotate B4 One Third"

or (4, 1) as coordinates and third as in clockwise three times

1 hour later…

Alconja

8:44 AM

@WesleySitu you're kinda getting closer, but you're over complicating it.... What's special about the square you're rotating?

Wesley Situ

9:05 AM

quite a lot about it is special to me :P

i see "71"

and as the others have said, its the tile that was previously rotated

its also the tile i used the paint bucket on

i think it'll be a while until the AHA hits me

Alconja

9:18 AM

:) I'm sure you'll kick yourself. It's a pretty direct/natural sentence.

Wesley Situ

i think what throws me off the most is the "third" part of it since i can tseem to connect that with anything

i.e. suppose the phrase was "Rotate the back one third", what did i rotate first and second....

and when i think of it in terms of the "how much to rotate" a third doesnt really work nicely with squares

im hoping someone else here can fill the second part in for me since my brain doesnt want to think the right way haha

Alconja

When you get it (or someone else does). Read back over your last 5 or 10 comments. :)

Wesley Situ

9:35 AM

skeptical still, but "Rotate the back [column]. 1/3 (first of the three)" and assume rotate means the same 270 degree rotation from step 4. That's as far as i'll go :P

time to sleep

Alconja

Heh. G'night.

4 hours later…

Deusovi

1:19 PM

@WesleySitu Aha! "Wrote eight, back, won third" - "rotate back one third"!

user189275

1:32 PM

@Deusovi: Awesome!

Alconja

@Deusovi :) nice work. Now just the final rebus to go.

Dan Russell

1:59 PM

And I think, perhaps, the final answer might be "thin K outside the box" = "think outside the box".

user189275

@DanRussell: You're probably right... but what connection it has with Hint 2 ?

Alconja

Well done @DanRussell - that's the one. :D

@ArbitraryKangaroo because it mattered that you used a thin pen and not a thick one (thin K)

user189275

Oh! The question is solved, and it's wonderful and good, so thanks @Alconja for putting it up.

user189275

And I was being stupid all the time .

Deusovi

Ah, nice!

user189275

2:11 PM

@Alconja: Are you going to add a wrap-up-post ?

Dan Russell

@Alconja Just the cherry on top of a beautifully constructed (and then deconstructed) sundae. Kudos to everyone who did the hard work!

Alconja

@ArbitraryKangaroo I was thinking about it this time... There were definitely a few lessons learned.

Anyway, now it's solved and I can sleep easy, it's time for bed. Well done all!

1 hour later…

Beastly Gerbil

3:43 PM

Wow! One day off and I come back and its solved! Typical....

Beastly Gerbil

4:02 PM

Okay completed my answer, thanks to all who helped

ffao

4:26 PM

Lol thin k

Couldn't have been staring us more in the face

Beastly Gerbil

I know, we made the most incredibly stupid suggestions looking back :P

Wesley Situ

i still dont get the rebus from instruction 8... how is "rotate back one third" supposed to be interpreted

Alconja

@WesleySitu the fact that you're rotating something back, tells you you're dealing with the only square that was already rotated. It was previously rotated forward 3/4 of a revolution, so 1/3 of that is 1/4.

Wesley Situ

ahhh

weight lifted

Alconja

Beastly Gerbil

4:35 PM

I understan better now too

I'll edit to make that clearer

2 hours later…

user189275

6:30 PM

@BeastlyGerbil I hold the personal record (soon to enter Guiness, after once or twice - thank me in advance - you see, how famous would I be !) for giving stupid suggestions in PSE chat. You're nowhere near me.

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