Analysis requests of specific works (time signature, harmony, etc) are currently not allowed in Music SE. I understand why: "Questions on identifying (or finding) a particular song, genre, instrument, etc. are off-topic since they are rarely useful to future readers."
I agree with this, but I a...
@percusse - if your question is simply the title question, I'll edit it to just focus on that, because it is obvious from all of the answers that the bit that has thrown us all is the rest of your question. You have included a lot of extraneous information which just obscures the key question.
@JCPedroza One more question!
@JCPedroza Did my answer make sense? I like it, but I think there will be some challenges...
I'm seeing a rapid trend towards worse and worse question quality. It gets to the point where I'm asking myself *"Why did I even help this guy? He neither has the will nor the capacity to understand the answer; I have just been wasting my time". That happens more and more often lately and is pret...
percusse - the rest of it was you pointing out a bad question that got closed, some better questions which hadn't - which is why we all asked for clarity. You eventually helped us understand what you wanted was to understand how policy is set, yes?
To prevent your question from being flagged and possibly removed, avoid asking subjective questions where …
every answer is equally valid: “What’s your favorite ______?” your answer is provided along with the question, and you expect more answers: “I use ______ for ______, what do you use?” there is no actual problem to be solved: “I’m curious if other people feel like I do.” you are asking an open-ended, hypothetical question: “What if ______ happened?” your question is just a rant in disguise: “______ sucks, am I right?”
Each community then modifies behaviour over time, based on subject etc
Where a post is ranty, mods will step in straight away
@percusse Yes, of course we can. The comment trail that you and I had went round and round a bit, and eventually ended up with me understanding you wanted to know where policy was set. So at that point the comments were deleted as unnecessary
@percusse I think you need to re-read how SE works, how mods try to do their (undpaid) job, and despite sometimes not wanting to, we put up with rants from folks.
@percusse Personally, I think that it is a valid question - it is outlined in various areas, but the fact that you needed to ask it despite being a member of various SE sites implies that it should be asked.
I think that really you asked a question that was initially not clear to me and others - it has been clarified, and now answered. As usual, rants have been removed - and I think you maybe just took that a little too personally, but that's okay
@percusse I will repeat myself then: is your core question,"How is policy set?" - as this is what you appear to have asked in various comments about 3 times
@percusse 3 folks answered. 2 asked you what you were trying to ask. Examples:
Because the rules do not apply here. Only imposed to questions people don't like. So this place is not moderated but owned. Then would you close all these questions or would you get a little bit more responsible and act more towards community?
Do you realize how many questions about why is that closed, why is this site so strict, why is this off-topic asked way more often than any other this site that I know of? .
yes I do - not many. Many other sites are much stricter
Watering down should indicate to you why we see that as a rant. The guidelines on objective posts are quite good, in general. A question that is inflammatory will never get as good quality answers as one that is entirely objective, because some will agree with you that the status quo has problems and decry the powers that be, and others will take the eact opposite stance and argue - and arguing doesn't work in the SE model very well
@percusse if it's any consolation, I don't think this one should have been closed:
Because the title question actually sounds incredibly useful
For things like this, if it gets four reopen votes, mods tend to be happy casting the 5th, because then our votes count as one, as opposed to the normal binding vote we have to deal with
@RoryAlsop @JCPedroza did a post here yesterday. I did one the day before and you mentioned it in your meta post yesterday so it could be a combination of any of them.
Many questions that pop on Music.SE are about particular pieces. Most of them are closed. But regularly, a question’s validity according to scope is in dispute.
Case in point: How to identify complex time signatures?
Some of these questions are disputed for what I believe are good reasons:
Th...
@RoryAlsop I think defining a scope for acceptable harmonic analysis requests is not trivial, but will be worth it (and shouldn't be that complex or hard). Maybe common practice period (Baroque, Classical, Romantic) is a good place to start? Maybe some selected authors from that era.
We can include other important authors from other genres too. I'm thinking, for example, of interest in analysis of works by Coltrane in Jazz, or Radiohead and Pink Floyd in Rock.
I know this is subjective and arbitrary, but still feel like it's a million times better than not allowing them at all, which is even more restrictive, subjective, and arbitrary (even though I understand the reason, which i think is preventing the site to be flooded with analysis requests which no one cares about?)
@JCPedroza I'm not sure how valuable this idea is, or how well they're indexed by search engines, but I wonder if this could be something for the tag wiki, instead of for questions.
So, coltrane would have information in the tag wiki about what makes up his sound.
Etc. etc. etc.
... or do SE sites not have tag wikis like SO does?
By the way, everybody, Music Fans requires one more 10+ question, and there's a question with 9 upvotes. If you haven't already done so, go upvote some stuff.
@RyanKinal That sounds like a good idea, but I'm talking about harmonic analysis of works by those authors, and not about those authors themselves. Harmonic analysis of Giant Steps by Coltrane, for example.
@RyanKinal Also, I don't know how useful is to have information in the wiki tags rather than as question-answer. Are wiki tags visited frequently? I always saw them as labels, not as something that should replace the question-answers of the site.
@JCPedroza I agree. To me it feels like common practice period pieces should be simple to include. I like your thinking on stuff like Pink Floyd - I guess if we take very large/famous/popular/prolific composers/bands the interest is likely to make this work.
@JCPedroza and yes.
@RyanKinal Not seen tag wikis used exactly that way - wonder how effective that would be, as many users of SE don't ever see tag wikis or know they exist :-)
Yeah, that would be my only holdup. I don't think many people know about them. But if we were to promote them, somehow, it could work out. Through comments and such, maybe?
@JCPedroza And yeah, I kind of got that impression after I made my suggestions.
Analysis requests of specific works (time signature, harmony, etc) are currently not allowed in Music SE. I understand why: "Questions on identifying (or finding) a particular song, genre, instrument, etc. are off-topic since they are rarely useful to future readers."
I agree with this, but I a...
What methods can I use to find the time signatures of strange/complex songs?
For example, what are the time signature(s) this song uses?
...
Many questions that pop on Music.SE are about particular pieces. Most of them are closed. But regularly, a question’s validity according to scope is in dispute.
Case in point: How to identify complex time signatures?
Some of these questions are disputed for what I believe are good reasons:
Th...
