ICSE English

GreatBigBore

12:29

@Abcd As I've said, your grammar, comprehension, and letter-writing are all very good. You need no further help with these things. It is good for you to continue practicing at them, but you need no help. I want to help you with the part that you actually have trouble with, and that is essay writing

@Abcd I'm still waiting for your examples concerning your thoughts on the relationship between the media and Islam. I see that you've said a couple of things here in the chat room, but those don't count at all. Come now, specific examples. You can't write an essay without specific examples.

@Abcd I fear that you are giving up on this project. I strongly encourage you not to give up. You can do well on the exam, but you must train for it, just as you would train for an athletic competition. You can succeed. You have put a lot of effort into this already. Don't let that go to waste. Continue the diligence you have shown so far.

@Abcd Hi! I am glad you are here

Abcd

Hi

@GreatBigBore is

are the above two points correct ?

@GreatBigBore can I post the examples here itself instead of mailing ?

GreatBigBore

No, not correct. You need to quote something specific that someone said. If Bill Maher talked about Omar, then you need to point to one thing he said that is an example of his wrong attitude toward Islam

You can name a website, but you must quote something the website actually says. Just giving the name doesn't count

Sure, post your examples here so we can talk about them

Abcd

okay

but you

dont generally come here ?

maybe you are informed earlier thru email>

?

is it still okay ?

If I post here ?

GreatBigBore

12:45

We can talk here or in email, whichever you prefer. I can't stay in this chat room for the whole day, but if you want to talk about something actively, I am glad to spend some time here

Abcd

tell me which is more convieneient to you and about which you are notified earlier?

GreatBigBore

And if I happen not to be here when you post examples, it is ok, because I can still come read them when I have time, and give you responses

Abcd

one more thing @GreatBigBore

you know that I wouldnt be allowed to research right ?

and there will be secular topics ?

you are aware right ?

or this is all paart of 5kg training only?

GreatBigBore

I am notified of both equally. There is no particular need for us to have a real-time conversation. But I can be here occasionally to have such conversation

Yes, I know you won't be able to do any research. But doing research now is an exercise in critical thinking. You are finished with your 5kg training. It is time to move up, and doing research is the way to move up

It doesn't matter whether the topics are secular or religious. What matters is critical thinking and the ability to formulate a coherent argument. Doing research now, while you have the opportunity, is a perfect exercise for that

Abcd

okay

I will try my best to be done with the exmples today in sha Allah

I am saying that you have to go where the preponderance of it is, and there’s no doubt that most of it happens in this sphere—in the name of this religion.”

GreatBigBore

12:52

No need to be completely done before you give them to me. Give them to me as you find them, and I will give you feedback on them

Abcd

Is this a suitable quote

from Mr Maher

?

GreatBigBore

Any quote is suitable if you can explain how it supports your point

Abcd

see here he is blaming the religion

GreatBigBore

First, concerning this quote from Maher, which of your nine points does it support? Remember, I'm looking for three examples of each piont

Abcd

anyway I will be done with it by today 11

that I will tell you later

when will u be reonline ?

GreatBigBore

12:58

I am online all day. As I've said, there is no particular need for a real-time conversation. I come here once each day, when I first sit down to my computer. At that time I also check my email. If you want to speed up our process, do more work each day. If you give me three examples, then I can only look at three examples. If you give me 24 examples, I can look at 24

Abcd

okay I got it

bye time for Salat

Abcd

19:21

#1Media has a bitter relationship with Islam. – Thesis statement

#2The former is bent on misrepresenting the latter and presenting it as though it is the solely responsible for all the mishaps in the world.

--Paris attack : Reporter Inna Shevchenko wrote after the Paris attacks “By remaining silent and not pointing out the ideology behind these attacks - which is Islamism - and the religious motives of the killers, they only give more opportunity for xenophobia to spread,”. These people who lack even doit knowledge of Islam behave as though they are the best judges of the religion. + Qur’an quotation : 60:8 or 5:32

--Bill Maher, an American writer attributed the evil Orlando shootings to Islam. He claimed, “there’s no doubt that most of it (terror) happens in this sphere—in the name of this …

#3:presenting the erroneous image of Islam and Muslims

--Mosques are peaceful places not centres of terrorism as is crystal clear to anyone who visits it

- Islam oppresses women

-Muslims must kill people of other religions

#4 :this began after 9/11 tragedy

-Since then everything has to blamed on Islam

#5:The Media presents the leaders of the so-called ISIS as though they are devout Muslims while many a Muslim around the whole world are turned a blind eye to by this collective agency

-Syria, Palestine martyrs are rarely mentioned by the Media in their ‘prayers’
-Sufferers in Kashmir are portrayed as terrorists while they are fighting for their freedom – this is the justice of Media
-Oppressed ones in Bosnia, Kosova do not exist for the media.

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#6-Recently in India an Islamic preacher was accused of spreading terrorism.His videos were cut, edited and falsely presented to deceive people. Arnab Goswami urged the government to ban the peaceful preacher whom I had been listening to since ages.

#7: The Media can portray the opposite of things especially if they are in relation with Islam
- Jihad
Jihad – a term often quoted by the misrepresentatives of Islam as well as the media, which is at constant war with Islam, simply means to strive and struggle. Moreover, the Muslims promoting terror do not even follow the Islamic rules of war like to not kill women and children, those in places of worship, aged men, to not burn down fruitful trees, etc., let alone the other Islamic laws. “Whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain …

#8: Media misquotes the Qur’an and the Hadith for its plots and purposes to curb the increase in the spread of Islam. For eg.

The sites on the Internet with deceptive names to deceive people are an active part of the Hate Propoganda of the Media. Thereligionofpeace.com is a site that does this task actively to curb the spread of Islam’s teachings amongst the innocent people.

- 3. answering-islam.org/Testimonies/younathan.html Here’s yet another extract from a false convert story aimed at spreading misinformation about Islam. As I started thinking about my life and the Qur’an, I realized all Muslims, even the prophet Muhammad, would go to Hell for certain sins they committed in their lifetime. This is a common pl…

@GreatBigBore done please see.

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