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2:10 AM
For those who have a plenty of time or idle and need some riddles, this issue maybe exciting.
 
\documentclass{ltxdoc}
\usepackage[utf8]{vietnam}
\begin{document}
\meta{abcộ}
\end{document}
The \meta command is working very fine with normal letters, but with accented letters it produces a mysterious space
You can see that it is a little bit too wide on the right
I'm not sure if this is a problem with \meta or with the letter, but is there a quick fix for this?
 
 
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5:08 AM
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7:24 AM
@JouleV It's not the fault of \meta. The letter is taller than the circumflex requires it to be, and that seems to give it too much italic correction.
\documentclass{ltxdoc}
\usepackage[utf8]{vietnam}
\usepackage{color}
\begin{document}
\fboxsep0pt
\fbox{\color{red}\itshape ộ}
\fbox{\color{red}\itshape ộ\/}
\fbox{\color{red}\itshape ọ}
\fbox{\color{red}\itshape ọ\/}
\end{document}
@JouleV Not sure if there's a quick fix other than adding an explicit kern.
 
 
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8:39 AM
@AlanMunn ooh a sentient thesis :)
 
@marmot I wanted to ask you a favor. Your code on the matter is excellent. Why are there two different thicknesses for the images inserted inside the rectangle with rounded edges? Depends on the size of my figures created in pdf? I checked but the dimensions are the same. Thank you
 
 
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10:39 AM
@UlrikeFischer any thoughts on
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A: Why don't \TextField and \ChoiceMenu begin at the start of the line?

David CarlisleThe space comes from \def\LayoutTextField#1#2{% label, field #1 #2% } If you make that #1#2 it goes, but unlike a "space from missing %" It was clearly added intentionally so I'm not sure if this is a bug or by design, it is one of a group of similar definitions \def\LayoutTextField#1#2{% ...

 
 
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12:22 PM
@DavidCarlisle testing for an empty label would imho be sensible. @CarLaTeX should add an issue at github.com/ho-tex/hyperref.
 
12:48 PM
@UlrikeFischer I'll do, thanks!
 
 
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1:52 PM
@Sebastiano I don't know. It shouldn't happen. Did you check whether this effect goes away if you zoom in and out, i.e. is a viewer effect? Do you have images with which others can reproduce it?
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Thanks. Perhaps I have to do it manually then
 
2:06 PM
@Sebastiano you say "dimensions are the same" but isn't the one on the right bigger? are you scaling them?
 
 
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3:24 PM
@DavidCarlisle @marmot David is absolutely right and I premise that it's been some time since I created figures. The work area with which I work to make images is the same for all figures with Adobe Illustrator.
@DavidCarlisle @marmot That's why I wrote that the dimensions are the same. In fact the work areas have the same area. Then what do I do? I buy them with a small pdf, an online tool, and then I cut them out. So thanks to David I should also remember that the publisher will have to provide me with pdf with the same size and possibly with the same cutout.
 
@Sebastiano I have no idea what you mean, but the tikz surround is clearly unrelated to the actual image you could make an example using example-image
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes you have right absolutely.
 
@Sebastiano I doubt if anyone is gaining any information from the images you are posting.
 
Now it's okay. As you can see the dimensions are different as correctly wrote David. I first draw them with Adobe Illustrator, with the same area, then redensify them and cut them. The result is at the bottom left: different sizes. The problem is solved. Thanks to you.
@DavidCarlisle Look below at the left bottom. The sizes are different.
 
@Sebastiano well it doesn't explain your original question as to why the borders have different width, unless you are using something like \resizebox
 
3:33 PM
@DavidCarlisle Wait I don't remember the structure.
@DavidCarlisle No, I do the clipping online. I have not used absolutely \resizebox for the pdf.
 
@Sebastiano this is why (as you should know) you should not ask questions based just on images of the output, always post an example document, it's not like you haven't been asked before.
 
You're right. But every time, and it's a bad habit of mine, even in my life that in my mind I think others have already understood what I'm asking for.
@DavidCarlisle Anyway, I congratulate you on making me think about the size. I had no doubt about the size. Then when you wrote me the dimensions I got the doubt. Problem, then, solved.
 
@Sebastiano but it was obvious in the image that you posted that the borders were different size, if you say the problem solved then I suggest we stop this thread but I have no idea what it is about:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Ok david. :-) To the next adventure. :-) A good job to you.
 
@yo' enjoying the snooker?
 
3:46 PM
@DavidCarlisle goal ooh
 
yo'
4:02 PM
@DavidCarlisle not really atm
 
 
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7:26 PM
I know this is late, but what do I do in order to update from TeX Live 2018 to 2019? Do I simply install the 2019 version, and TeXworks (my editor) will use it automatically?
 
@MaxR Install TL'19 then set the approriate path in TeXworks
@DavidCarlisle Looks good here :)
 
@MaxR Late? TL 2019 has barely been out a week! I have colleagues who only upgrade when they get a new laptop, and not always even then.
 
8:00 PM
I started to sort the attr and page resource uses: github.com/latex3/pdfresources/blob/testlinkstuff/…. The main question is imho where to hook at shipout / end document ;-).
 
@UlrikeFischer Yes, need to talk about that
 
@JosephWright well I think that in pdfresources.sty we can do everything - it is experimental and a separate package ;-).
 
@UlrikeFischer Yes
@UlrikeFischer Load atbegshi for the present
 
8:18 PM
@JosephWright ok, do you have a suggestion for the end of the document for the pdfpagesattr?
 
@UlrikeFischer Has to use a page-number based system, two-pass, doesn't it?
 
@JosephWright no, it simply has to have to be filled rather late - in case some user command tries to add something.
 
@UlrikeFischer Right, so \AtVeryEndDocument?
 
@JosephWright something like that. I'm only always confused about all the AtEnd, AtVeryEnd, ReallyAtTheEnd commands.
 
@UlrikeFischer Indeed!
 
8:44 PM
@UlrikeFischer I think Heiko's atveryend package is what we want: probably another one we should simply slipstream into the kernel (@DavidCarlisle)
@UlrikeFischer On another matter, do you think atbegshi box hooks are needed both 'corner of output' and 'corner of page': I think only the latter is really useful
 
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Q: Change direction of bent arrow in xy

Fosco LoregianThis MWE \documentclass[margin=3mm]{standalone} \usepackage{mathtools,amssymb} \def\Lan{\text{Lan}} \usepackage[all]{xy} \def\sX{\mathbb{X}} \def\sY{\mathbb{Y}} \begin{document} \xymatrix@C=2cm{ & \sX\ar[r]^A\ar[d]_J & \sY \\ \sX \ar[r]^B\ar[d]_J & \sY\ar[ur]_{\Lan_JA} & \\ \sY\ar[ur]_{\Lan_J...

Have I misunderstood the english language?
 
@JosephWright for the pdf resource imho any one is okay. For (luatex) tagging I need the box and \AtBeginShipout, I don't think that the hooks would help for pdftex tagging, imho if it ever will work, it will need hooks in the output routing. No idea what you need for the postscript stuff ;-).
 
@UlrikeFischer I need the 'first shipout' one for PostScript. I was actually thinking more widely.
 
@JosephWright then one probably should check what other packages do.
 
@UlrikeFischer Almost all of them want 'corner of the page', and I think the other uses could also use that (i.e. nothing looks like it needs 'corner of output')
 
9:25 PM
Grr, I'm missing 5 points for a palindrome ;-(
 
@UlrikeFischer Oh no!
 
@Sebastiano it seems like it, the answer answers the question as far as I can see
 
@Sebastiano Besides, I personally do not approve that you edited the code the OP provided.
 
9:48 PM
@PauloCereda Paulo I really thought about not doing that. But if I did it in good faith, to attract attention. In fact, as you can see, I then inserted a bounty. Now I do a rollback.
@DavidCarlisle I don't understand the English language as you can see. I see that the two images are the same. So what's the problem with the OP?
 
@Sebastiano the arrow was coming out of the bottom of the Y and the Op wanted it to come out of the right hand side as done in the answer.
@Sebastiano actually adding amsfonts was a good edit (as the example doesn't work without)
 
@Sebastiano compare:
 
@UlrikeFischer In the upper picture, J is cut, but not in the lower one. ;-)
 
@marmot buuh. ;-) I missed 202202 ;-(.
 
@UlrikeFischer 222222 is more impressive.
 
10:03 PM
@UlrikeFischer Heiko provided a lot of hooks. I think etoolbox's \AfterEndDocument would be fine
@AlexG Just got an update for dvipdfmx ...
@AlexG Seems the bug was important enough for a fix to be releasd
 
@JosephWright Yes, hooks for all occasions ;-). Perhaps even latex \AtEndDocument works. I doubt that anyone would see a need to e.g. set the Mediabox later.
 
@UlrikeFischer Sure, but probably you want to be 'after the last shipout' at least: Heiko has a hook there
 
@UlrikeFischer Ahh. Now I have understood. Before there is a curve, and the OP wanted the stright line. I hadn't seen him at all, and I hadn't noticed. That is why I was insisting. Thank you for your pictures.
@DavidCarlisle In fact, the code didn't work without the packages I'd added.
 
10:27 PM
@PauloCereda Here is a question for you (since you are the expert on meanness ;-)
 
@Sebastiano yes that's what I said, I think @PauloCereda shouldn't have objected to that edit
 
11:01 PM
@DavidCarlisle @Sebastiano sure, the code does not work without the aforementioned packages, but they were added without any notice to the OP, so nothing was gained from it. My pet peeve is that a raw edit without any indication of why it is needed does not add value. But that's just me...
@marmot ooh the question is mean :)
 

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