TeX, LaTeX and Friends

2:50 AM

@samcarter Like all marmots, I am a vegetarian. (I don't think I qualify as a vegan, though, since I drink honey liquor once in a while. ;-)

manooooh

5:42 AM

Hellooo?

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@samcarter That seems as good an explanation as any. The placement is still odd, but given that they don't want to keep this button in people's face, I can't think of any better place to put it.

Ulrike Fischer

7:27 AM

@StefanKottwitz but there is no chat and it is lacking a sensible notification system (no I don't want to get notifications by emails).

Stefan Kottwitz

7:40 AM

@UlrikeFischer I considered to setup a chat service (for example with OpenFire), but the site is not so busy, so no idea if it would be used, if the effort would be useful. In a situation of a much more frequented site, programming additional features (as chat and adjusting the email notification feature for local notifications) makes more sense.

mickep

Oh, they have now changed back to colors looking a bit more like the old tex.SE site :)

Joseph Wright

8:13 AM

@StefanKottwitz, @UlrikeFischer My feeling, at least at present, is that it's worth seeing if StackOverflow address the biggest issues before moving to a 'lifeboat' site. I'd not rule it out, though: we've always known that the Powers have their own agenda.

Ulrike Fischer

@JosephWright my opinion hasn't changed: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/46137647#46137647

Ulrike Fischer

8:54 AM

@StefanKottwitz I understand the arguments regarding chat, but a better notification system is imho needed even now. Currently I only see by chance if someone mentioned me or edited an answer.

Stefan Kottwitz

@UlrikeFischer By chance or by choice ;-) I see all mentions and changes since I consider the mail notification similar like an light mailing list, they go to a separate folder that I quickly browse and empty regularly. You don't subscribe to notification mails, fine as well. But I may send you an email if I added a notification feature. ;-)

boycott.se - yo'

9:22 AM

@JosephWright I still haven't lost hope, but I'm getting close

Ulrike Fischer

@StefanKottwitz sorry but email is quite an unusable system for me here. I don't want to quit the site to check my mails to see if someone answered to one of my comments and then go back to check what it is about. And I don't want to have to setup filters everywhere to avoid that more or less useless mails clutter my inbox.

samcarter

9:52 AM

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Q: What does constructive criticism of a design change look like?

Last week we rolled out the new network theme to several sites. Some of these sites had beautiful designs previously and now have a less striking look. Unsurprisingly, the response to these changes has been somewhat very negative. Even before Joe posted our master plan back in March, this has bee...

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Max

@samcarter May I ask how you create .gifs from a beamer .pdf? You don't seem to have the same problem as I had.

@samcarter Or is this not the right place to ask such a question?

samcarter

@Max I used convert -delay 50 -loop 0 -density 100 -alpha remove document.pdf output.gif

Max

@samcarter Thanks! I think it's the -alpha remove option that makes the difference.

@samcarter Still getting the same problem, with exactly the same command :( Do you use ImageMagick and GhostScript?

samcarter

10:09 AM

@Max I use ImageMagick and whatever this uses in the background. What OS do you have? I'm on a mac.

Max

@samcarter I'm using Windows 10. Maybe I just have to update some stuff. Thanks anyway :)

samcarter

@Max You're welcome!

Sha Vuklia

10:32 AM

hey guys, so I have to apply this template from my school, but I'm not sure how to do it

Max

@samcarter Updating GhostScript fixed it :)

Sha Vuklia

this is the template:
\NeedsTeXFormat{LaTeX2e}
\ProvidesClass{uvamath}[2017/10/27 0.4 Bachelor Wiskunde LaTeX document class]
\LoadClassWithOptions{scrreprt}
\RequirePackage{graphicx}
\DeclareOption{english}{
% English values for translatable constant text
\def\supervisortextsingular{Supervisor}
\def\supervisortextplural{Supervisors}
\def\titletext{Title}
\def\authortextsingular{Authors}
\def\authortextplural{Authors}
\def\datetext{End date}
\def\secondgradertextsingular{Second grader}
\def\secondgradertextplural{Second grader}

but I don't know what to do with this standard thing;
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}

\title{test}
\author{}
\date{August 2018}

\begin{document}

\maketitle

\section{Introduction}

\end{document}

TeXnician

@ShaVuklia As you have a class template you should probably use it as documentclass.

samcarter

@Max Good to hear!

Sha Vuklia

@TeXnician so what would be the class here?

uvamath?

TeXnician

10:37 AM

@ShaVuklia Your template says uvamath.

Sha Vuklia

@TeXnician right, so now I've tried this:

\NeedsTeXFormat{LaTeX2e}
\ProvidesClass{uvamath}[2017/10/27 0.4 Bachelor Wiskunde LaTeX document class]
\documentclass[2017/10/27 0.4 Bachelor Wiskunde LaTeX document class]{uvamath}
\LoadClassWithOptions{scrreprt}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\RequirePackage{graphicx}
\DeclareOption{english}{
% English values for translatable constant text
\def\supervisortextsingular{Supervisor}
\def\supervisortextplural{Supervisors}
\def\titletext{Title}
\def\authortextsingular{Authors}
\def\authortextplural{Authors}

the error says that at line 4, File`uvamath.cls' can't be found

TeXnician

@ShaVuklia You should probably read an introduction to LaTeX, which covers the differences between packages, classes and documents. Because this is the wrong place to put it (should be a separate class file).

Sha Vuklia

I understand the difference vaguely, but I don't understand what you mean by putting it in a separate class file

@TeXnician I just see a document class as the way the document will be formatted, and packages are just additional things for your document

TeXnician

@ShaVuklia Well and that's somehow true, but there are many things you are missing, e.g. that generally the document, the class and packages are all text files. And that's where you should start. You've got that template as a class file, so it should be one.

Sha Vuklia

oh, so I will make a separate text file for this template, and then refer to it in the main document when I introduce the class?

@TeXnician so I've done that now, but I think I have to put all kinds of things in the main file now

should I put all those things that are defined in the template in my main document?

e.g.;
\def\supervisortextsingular{Supervisor}
\def\supervisortextplural{Supervisors}
\def\titletext{Title}
\def\authortextsingular{Authors}
\def\authortextplural{Authors}
\def\datetext{End date}
\def\secondgradertextsingular{Second grader}
\def\secondgradertextplural{Second grader}
\def\thesistext{Bachelor thesis Mathematics}
\def\thesisWNtext{Bachelor thesis Mathematics and Physics \& Astronomy}
\def\thesisWItext{Bachelor thesis Mathematics and Computer Science}
\def\secondyearprojecttext{Project report Mathematics year 2}

so I tried doing this, but that doesn't really work;
\documentclass{uvamath}[2017/10/27 0.4 Bachelor Wiskunde LaTeX document class]
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}

\title{test}
\author{}
\date{August 2018}

\begin{document}

\supervisortextsingular{Supervisor}
\supervisortextplural{Supervisors}
\titletext{Title}
\authortextsingular{Authors}
\authortextplural{Authors}
\datetext{End date}
\secondgradertextsingular{Second grader}
\secondgradertextplural{Second grader}
\thesistext{Bachelor thesis Mathematics}

TeXnician

10:50 AM

@ShaVuklia As I said before you should read a LaTeX introduction to get a feeling for this kind of differences. Concerning the template I do not know what your aim is, maybe ask the maintainers how to achieve a specific thing.

@ShaVuklia This will not work as expected, first of all remove the optional argument after the documentclass and then you should decide whether to define the macros or to call them.

Sha Vuklia

alright I removed the optional argument. well, since the macros are defined in the template, it seems redundant to me to define them again in the document?

so the first two blocks have to do with choosing english or dutch

Sha Vuklia

11:12 AM

@TeXnician so I've read some introductory texts, but I'm still not sure how to use \DeclareOption{}{}

I'm starting to see the structure of the class file, so that's good

but I'm not sure how to implement the options within the class

TeXnician

@ShaVuklia Because surely declaring option is not basic and you should not even need it in your normal document. I do not think the template authors want you to play around with them.

Sha Vuklia

so I shouldn't call them?

they will be implemented automatically?

how can I for instance get the title or the supervisor in my document? I assumed I had to use the DeclareOption somehow, because that's where it is defined in the class file

Sha Vuklia

11:26 AM

@TeXnician if you have time:')

Max

@ShaVuklia \DeclareOption{}{} is a command only used in classes or packages. You don't need it when writing a document.

@ShaVuklia The options are defined in the class file, and you can call them with the optional argument of \documentclass[<optional argument>]{<class name>}.

@ShaVuklia I tried your class file, and apparently you have to give at least one option to the \documentclass command, which is either tweedejaarsproject, bachelorscriptie, dubaWN, or dubaWI. These option define a certain description of the project that is needed in \maketitle.

Sha Vuklia

11:42 AM

hey yea I am trying it out too now!

there is also another option, called english

I feel like I'm almost there, I just have to include my university's logo

Max

@ShaVuklia Yes that's probably to translate the Dutch default texts to English default texts.

Sha Vuklia

yes

Max

@ShaVuklia Try this one which is a vector version of the logo. I think it looks better than using raster images as .png or .jpg.

Sha Vuklia

thanks

it will have to look like this eventually at the end of the page

I'm going to see if the class file has a thing for that

Sha Vuklia

12:17 PM

@Max do you have any idea how I can get the logo thing?

Sha Vuklia

12:41 PM

ahh, I'm so almost there

I have no idea why the logo won't be centered

Max

1:02 PM

@ShaVuklia A quick and dirty solution would be to replace every line with \includegraphics[width=0.070\hsize]{uvalogo} (there are 5 of them) in the class file with \hfill\includegraphics[width=0.070\hsize]{uvalogo}\hfill%. Note the percentage symbol, you need that to prevent the line-break turning into a space.

Sha Vuklia

1:23 PM

thanks so much @Max!

you're the best!

boycott.se - yo'

@JosephWright If you're around, could you please help me guess what could M mean in 1 M H2SO4 / 100 V / 1 hour?

TeXnician

1:36 PM

@boycott.se-yo' Isn't it a short form for the concentration (mole per liter)?

boycott.se - yo'

@TeXnician probably. I'll for this moment simply suppose it's a unit :-)

TeXnician