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7:55 AM
@sky-light Why not using package pgfplots?
 
8:12 AM
@Johannes_B can you give some explanation or link about how to use it?
 
@sky-light tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/pgfplots and the package documentation (texdoc pgfplots)
 
8:36 AM
@Johannes_B this package needs someone to be familiar with coordination, I would like to know if there is a GUI that can be used in comjuction with latex for plotting network diagrams
 
9:06 AM
@sky-light What does a network diagram look like?
 
9:36 AM
@Johannes_B My network diagrams look like this:
 
@StefanKottwitz Was thinking of you, but didn't want to ping you on the weekend. :-)
@StefanKottwitz Looks confusing.
 
@Johannes_B Maybe the image is infusing, but the code is crystal clear.
% Uplink ports on Aggregation switches
\foreach \aggregation in {1,...,4} {
  \foreach \core/\port in {1/47,2/48} {
    \node [AggLabel] at (Agg\aggregation Core\core) {1/\port};
  }
}
% Downlink ports on Core switches
\foreach \aggregation/\module/\port in {1/1/43, 2/1/44, 3/2/43, 4/2/44} {
  \foreach \core in {1,2} {
    \node [Label] at (Core\core Agg\aggregation) {\module/\port};
  }
}
 
@StefanKottwitz I don't have Tikz power.
 
@Johannes_B just joking :-) but actually my code is optimized, things are calculated and styles heavily used
 
@StefanKottwitz I haven't been very active on the forums in the last few weeks.
 
9:40 AM
The confusing diagrams means a redundant network with two data centers. Each has a core switch, and aggregation switches to the servers. They have virtual port channels (link bundles) marked by the ellipse
@Johannes_B Same for me, as I'm working in a yard building the IT network for this ship:
MS Koningsdam is an upcoming cruise ship under construction for Holland America Line (HAL), a division of Carnival Corporation. The class leader of HAL's Pinnacle class ships, she will be by far the largest ship ever to be constructed for HAL. She will also be the first HAL ship to bear the name Koningsdam, which honours Willem-Alexander, the first King of the Netherlands in over a century. Koningsdam is due to be delivered by her builder, Fincantieri, in April, 2016. == References == == External links == Holland America Line official site...
 
@StefanKottwitz You are intaly right now, right?
 
@sky-light If you make a lot of network diagrams and would decide for TikZ, we could join efforts to make some styles or generic drawing templates
@sky-light see my diagram above
 
@StefanKottwitz Who creates Wiki entries for ships under construction? To be honest, i couldn't care less about this. :-)
 
@Johannes_B Some people like ships, some like airplanes, some like cars. Cruise fleets are like a deck of cards for some people, you know the cards, then you get some new, ... some speak about it.
@Johannes_B I'm in Italy Monday to Friday, flying home each weekend to Hamburg
 
@StefanKottwitz I hope i will never have to be on a cruise ship. It terrifies me.
@StefanKottwitz Vielflieger :-p
 
10:14 AM
@Johannes_B The network diagram is much simpler than what @StefanKottwitz uploaded. it includes few blocks, (maximum 6), with text and formulas inside the blocks
 
11:00 AM
@StefanKottwitz the CV question on LC, i don't think this is moderncv. More likely to be the friggeri template, which redefines \textbf to be crap.
 
11:53 AM
 
12:13 PM
@Johannes_B Yes
 
 
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2:35 PM
@Johannes_B: The nomenclature question was deleted
 
@ChristianHupfer I know.
 
@Johannes_B Another useless question by a user that did not give feedback on the comments, well, actually she gave feedback. She deleted
 
@ChristianHupfer I just deleted the tag of the already deleted question.
 
@Johannes_B Can't remember what the tag was. KOMA stuff?
 
@ChristianHupfer scrbook
 
2:41 PM
@Johannes_B Ah yes...
@Johannes_B By the way, what happened to the fork you once made of my github repository? I made it private recently so the fork should hang around somehow?
 
@Johannes_B Could you delete that please? It's of no use to you, I would say
 
@ChristianHupfer You know that GitHub forks have a life of their own?
 
@ChristianHupfer Strange, the link above doesn't work.
 
@JosephWright Well, that's not so nice actually. The fork is really outdated, in my point of view
 
2:50 PM
@ChristianHupfer Yes, but 'stale' forks are part of the reality of the Git approach
 
@JosephWright I've to live with it, I think. And that's why I made my repository private.
 
3:04 PM
Another new keyval package I see: will have to read it through (@DavidCarlisle!)
Oh, it's the chap from Microsoft
How interesting
 
@JosephWright What is the name of the package? I don't see the CTAN announcement yet.
 
@Johannes_B options
 
@JosephWright Daan Leijen, never heard this name.
 
@Johannes_B I have: he mailed me a while ago about something in etoolbox
 
@JosephWright The other two packages of him were upoaded this week as well.
 
3:17 PM
@Johannes_B Ah
@Johannes_B I guess I need to look at performance for l3keys: it's a lot slower than his code (or indeed that pgfkeys)
@DavidCarlisle ^^^ Worth pursuing?
 
 
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4:56 PM
@ChristianHupfer I complained because I thought the answer could be much better. I don't think you should assume I'd complain nonetheless.
@ChristianHupfer Anyway, I removed my comment. Would you prefer a downvote? ;-)
 
5:13 PM
@JosephWright I thought you meant Leslie for a minute.
 
@DavidCarlisle Me too :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle :-)
@DavidCarlisle Deliberately misleading comment ;-)
@DavidCarlisle I think actually I mentioned (somewhere) I'd been asked about etoolbox by him
 
Hi does anyone know how to run aspell from the command line? I tried aspell -c <file> and get an error "Could not open the file <file> for reading". Googling didn't turn up much.
 
@JosephWright I think his performance section at the end says keval is the fastest of the lot:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle It does
 
5:15 PM
@egreg: I'll delete it. It's not fair by the O.P. to give not feedback how it could be improved so it's useless to him
 
@DavidCarlisle I wonder why he needed a new keyval package, but as I've noted on GitHub we need to look at this in l3keys (which seems to be very slow, which bothers me)
 
@ChristianHupfer You're taking the wrong approach, in my opinion. I mean, deleting the answer.
 
@egreg: No, it's the right approach. No feedback by the O.P. giving me the chance to improve just because I am not online and then getting complaints ;-)
 
@egreg I see you were defending my honour and pointing out afterpage is not to blame
 
@AlanMunn I have no problem with aspell -c filename
@DavidCarlisle I'm not sure it is useful in that context, though.
 
5:18 PM
@JosephWright any idea on what these are supposed to do \pdfimageaddfilename \pdfreplacefont \pdfxformattr \pdfxformresources the luatex manual has "pdftex compatibility" definitions for them but they seem to be undefined in pdftex
@egreg afterpage? it's not useful in most contexts that people use it as far as I can see from the number of times it crops up here.
 
@DavidCarlisle Might be in pdfTeX 1.50 but never released?
 
@DavidCarlisle Is it mentioned in the wikibook? :-)
 
@JosephWright It did occur to me that they might have their own sources... was there a 1.50, I wasn't following internal pdftex development...
 
@DavidCarlisle There was the idea of 1.50: for example, \expanded was (is) in the codebase there but never released (Heiko looks for it in one of his packages and I think was involved in the pdfTeX implementation)
 
@egreg Ok. So I had the filename wrong (it was a generated file and I hadn't checked the name carefully enough), but now I'm getting "No word lists can be found for the language "en_US". So still not working.
 
5:24 PM
@AlanMunn How did you install aspell?
@AlanMunn What does aspell dicts output?
 
@egreg I think I installed it long ago using the Cocoa aspell installer. aspell dicts outputs nothing.
 
@AlanMunn Well, that empty output explains why no dictionary is found, doesn't it? ;-)
 
0
Q: Biggest pain points with LaTeX?

msiemensI'm trying to understand what a worthy competitor to LaTeX should improve. So, what are your biggest pain points with LaTeX and its ecosystem?

 
@JosephWright still it's yet another complication in making a clean pdftex emulation, I hit it with the test file I checked in for layex85.sty., testing the definitions from the manual for expansion compatibility with pdftex.
 
@AlanMunn I installed it with homebrew
 
5:28 PM
@egreg Yes indeed. But I have plenty installed somewhere it seems, since in the System Preferences they show up in the Cocoa aspell preference.
 
@AlanMunn What does which aspell output?
 
@Johannes_B didn't a similar question get closed as opinion based just the other day?
 
@DavidCarlisle 'Dont know, wasn't really around the last two weeks. I think, this one isn't really suitable on site.
 
@egreg /usr/local/bin/aspell
 
@AlanMunn OK, try aspell config data-dir
 
5:31 PM
@DavidCarlisle I'm working on the pdfTeX sources
 
@egreg /usr/local/lib/aspell-0.60
 
A problem i see is expecting stuff to work out-of-the-box. LaTeX is as complicated as a microwave oven, as long as you read the manual. The same is true for all competitors.
 
@egreg It seems that all my dictionaries are in /Library/Application Support/cocoaAspell/aspell6-en-6.0.0/
@egreg So I need to link that directory to where the command line version expects to find them I guess.
 
@Johannes_B I voted to close
 
@DavidCarlisle I wanted to leave a comment, the user deleted the question 20 seconds before i was hitting enter. I left the comment above.
@DavidCarlisle the inline code markup is messed in the imaginary i answer.
 
5:37 PM
@AlanMunn That's the easiest thing.
 
@Johannes_B fixed thanks
 
@AlanMunn cd /usr/local/lib/;sudo ln -s "/Library/Application Support/cocoaAspell/aspell6-en-6.0.0" aspell-0.60 should do
 
@egreg Yes, I was about to do that, but the directory aspell-0.60 contains stuff that the cocoaAspell directory doesn't. Will the dictionaries be found inside subfolders within the aspell-0.60 dir?
 
@AlanMunn I don't know.
 
Is there a conventional way in LaTeX of saying page 1 of 6, etc.?
 
5:44 PM
@egreg Ok. I'll experiment a bit. The aspell docs are pretty minimal.
 
I mean, instead of just 1, 2 etc. at the bottom.
 
@AlanMunn My aspell-0.60 dir is flat
 
@AlanMunn Asking the author might be an option.
 
@egreg Yes, that's why I fear.
 
@AlanMunn Just copy the dictionaries
 
5:46 PM
@egreg Yes, I was just about to say that. :)
 
108
Q: How can I add "page # of ##" on my document?

LipisI want to add a footer to my document displaying the current number out of total number of pages. How do I do that?

 
@Johannes_B Cool. Thank you.
 
@egreg That worked. But each language dictionary set can be in a separate directory within the aspell-0.60 dir.
 
For other Chromium users here, do you have problems with it eating insane amounts of memory for no reason?
 
6:05 PM
@AlanMunn The comment was meant to be related to publication. Which is quite likely for a package that follows some university requirements. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/282788/…
 
@Johannes_B Honestly at the level that the OP seems to be, publishing is the least of her worries. So I think that comment just adds to the confusion. There are plenty of grad students who create a package for their thesis with no real intent to publish I bet. And of course some of them do publish and the resultant crap gets a life of its own which we have to clean up. So I'm all for private packages, especially from beginners. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle Issue with pdfTeX SVN: the one that's available publicly only covers up to 1.40.11, the TeX Live SVN has later commits mentioning an upstream but I can't find it!
 
6:20 PM
@AlanMunn If the OP decides to not publish it (yet), one package that might be very buggy less floating around.
 
@Johannes_B Exactly! So in keeping with your template crusade you should be discouraging publishing at all times... :)
 
@JosephWright I thought it was here but it's asking for pw ? foundry.supelec.fr/svn/pdftex/trunk
 
@AlanMunn I hope she doesn't publish anything in the near future. by the way, i have a few private packages, all of them at least have a copyright notice even though i am not planning on giving them away.
 
@Johannes_B Hmm. If a copyright notice falls in the forest... Maybe the NSA will appreciate seeing it. :)
 
6:49 PM
@AlanMunn I hope my stuff is handy for them. :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle That's the one that stops at 1.40.11: the user name and password are both anonsvn
 
@ChristianHupfer My comment was unrelated to the question asked. See a few comments above ^^^^^
 
7:17 PM
@DavidCarlisle Can't find those primitives anywhere
 
@Johannes_B Ah, as usual ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer I am a very confused penguin.
 
@Johannes_B Unfortunately this confusion spreads out to posts etc. and does not contribute to clearification ...
 
@ChristianHupfer Sorry about that.
 
7:56 PM
@JosephWright luatex list again ?
 
@DavidCarlisle Yup
@DavidCarlisle They must love us
 
@JosephWright everybody loves us,
3
 
8:22 PM
@DavidCarlisle Everyone loves baby Jake, surely
 
8:35 PM
@JosephWright mail sent...
 
8:56 PM
@PTNobel hi new here?
 
@DavidCarlisle Yeah, I thought I'd check out what this chatroom was.
 
@PTNobel Some old blokes talking about ducks, and strange TeX 'improvements' (some call it luatex ;-))
 
@PTNobel sort of back channel for discussing things on the main question/answer site, or anything tex related, or cricket.
 
@DavidCarlisle @ChristianHupfer got it. I like ducks and cricket, so I guess I'll fit in? Plus I know some LaTeX.
 
@PTNobel Most of us do -- I am not sure about @DavidCarlisle knowing some stuff about LaTeX, but he is an excellent painter -- with MS Pain(t) ;-)
 
9:08 PM
@PTNobel We also talk about language and music sometimes.
 
@AlanMunn Because you missed the correct chat room for that -- you confused it with Music and Language.SX ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer La la la la la la la
 
9:22 PM
@PTNobel Welcome! Don't trust @AlanMunn when he talks about music.
 
@egreg Why not?
 
@egreg @PTNobel Indeed. I'm one of those evil post-Beethoven people.
 
@FaheemMitha He likes a “composer” whose name is better for beer.
 
@AlanMunn POST Beethoven, what kind of a monster... [sarcasm]
 
@egreg I'm missing the reference.
 
9:26 PM
@PTNobel @AlanMunn referred to both @egreg's taste of music and very, very, very advanced age;-)
 
Philip Morris Glass (born January 31, 1937) is an American composer. He is considered one of the most influential music makers of the late 20th century. His music is also often controversially described as minimal music, along with the work of the other "major minimalists" La Monte Young, Terry Riley and Steve Reich. Glass has distanced himself from the "minimalist" label, describing himself instead as a composer of "music with repetitive structures". Though his early mature music shares much with what is normally called "minimalist", he has since evolved stylistically. Currently, he describes...
 
@PTNobel This chatroom is Super Cool People Hanging Out. With splashes of Ducks, Cricket and TeX.
 
@egreg Glass's best song is 4:33. You really can't beat it. I'm currently writing a lyrical version of it, about the 1850s American Presidents.
 
@FaheemMitha and people lacking sense of irony ;-)
 
@PTNobel Isn't that Cage's?
 
9:28 PM
@PTNobel All two or three of them? ;-)
 
@egreg I'm almost certain it's Glass.
 
@PTNobel @AlanMunn You see that I'm informed in modern "music”.
Meanwhile, I'm listening to Vivaldi's Gloria (RV 589)
 
@PTNobel Is that the one that is background noise?
 
@FaheemMitha the one where the orchestra is completely silent? That's the one.
 
@PTNobel No, sorry that was John Cage.
 
9:33 PM
@PTNobel Sounds like fun.
 
@AlanMunn Glass is not as minimalistic
 
@AlanMunn Indeed, just goes to show one should always double check what people tell one.
@FaheemMitha It's pretty easy, since the 1850s Presidents, are both highly forgettable, and accomplished next to nothing.
 
@ChristianHupfer No, just Super Cool people.
 
@PTNobel Polk and Taylor ?
@FaheemMitha You just proved my line :D
 
@egreg 4'33" is in the same mode as the monochromatic paintings of Rauschenberg and others. (Which I suspect you're not a fan of either...) They were experiments in pushing the definition of the artform.
 
9:38 PM
@AlanMunn BS. ;-)
 
@egreg Actually the monochromatic paintings are more successful IMO than 4'33".
 
@AlanMunn I think I saw one of them at Tate Modern.
 
Personally I prefer Real Music.
 
@egreg Although I've never actually been to a performance of it, so I can't really compare. But the Rauschenberg black and white paintings are quite interesting to see.
 
@egreg Do you like Purcell?
 
9:41 PM
@FaheemMitha You mean over ambient room sounds? Or is there some definition (like @egreg has) that you have in mind?
 
@FaheemMitha Of course I do!
 
@egreg I don't see why - of course. You might just never have listened to him.
So what of his do you particularly like?
 
@FaheemMitha I suspect there's very little of the classical genre that @egreg hasn't listened to.
 
@AlanMunn I imagine my definition of Real Music is not too dissimilar from egregs, except that I do listen to and like music that was written post-Beethoven.
 
@FaheemMitha Dido and Aeneas, for instance, but that's easy. Actually I don't have much of him.
 
9:44 PM
@egreg That's a good one. I haven't listened to much myself. Hail Bright Cecelia is good too.
 
@FaheemMitha Yes!
 
I'm open to other Purcell recommendations.
 
@FaheemMitha My tastes are simply much broader. There's probably a lot of overlap in pieces that @egreg and I like; I just like a bunch of stuff he doesn't.
 
@AlanMunn For example?
 
9:48 PM
@FaheemMitha Well, on the more extreme ends, Philip Glass and Steve Reich, for example. But also Bartok, Janacek (which I suspect he doesn't care for much.) And technically Brahms, Debussy, Poulenc and a whole host of others after Beethoven, but I think he makes exceptions for some of them.
@FaheemMitha And I also like lots of non-classical music.
 
@AlanMunn I don't know most of those either.
 
@ChristianHupfer Don't forget Buchanan! He did...something?
 
I do like Brahms though. But egreg might like him. He's basically a throwback to the Classical age with Romantic bits mixed in.
The German Requiem is pretty nice.
Also, lots of his keyboard stuff is good.
 
@PTNobel I am German, so I am quite glad that I know of Polk and Taylor at all. Buchanan was president before Lincoln?
 
@FaheemMitha Yes, I think so. I like the string quartets and the symphonies. But @egreg and I share our disdain for the later German and Russian Romantics.
 
9:53 PM
@FaheemMitha Sorry, I know nothing by Brahms that's worthy listening to. Particularly the Deutsches Requiem. It's as bad as Verdi's Requiem.
 
@AlanMunn I'm not much for the Romantics.
 
@ChristianHupfer Makes sense, and yep he was. Pretty much his only accomplishment was not doing anything after South Carolina seceded, letting Lincoln wait till South Carolina fired on Fort Sumter, which created public support in the North for the Civil War.
 
@egreg Oh. Well, I used to like the German Requiem. Though it has been a while since I listened to it. Also, the 4th symphony is pretty good. Though ditto.
 
@FaheemMitha I'm not saying that I change station if there's something by Brahms. He doesn't appeal to me. The symphonies are useless, I'm afraid.
 
@egreg Ok.
 
9:55 PM
@PTNobel I know of the Fort Sumter 'cause' of the Civil War, but I could not remember it was Buchanan -- shows how important he was ;-)
 
@AlanMunn No Čajkovskij? ;-)
 
@egreg God no. Remember, I'm the one who coined the term "Sledge Hammer Concerto". :)
 
@AlanMunn :)
 
@egreg Even the string quintets of Brahms?
I really love this piece.
 
@AlanMunn If I had a favorite piece of music, it would probably be Schubert's D956.
The C Major String Quintet.
 
10:09 PM
@FaheemMitha Yes, that's a beautiful piece. But you can rarely go wrong with Schubert. :)
 
@AlanMunn Well, his early stuff is a bit weak. Then again, with Schubert early means 16 years or so...
 
@AlanMunn Good for sleeping. ;-)
 
@egreg So I'm right on time. :)
 
@AlanMunn The Stern and Casals recording is very good. That's also the only one I'm really familiar with.
@egreg Not a Schubert fan either?
 
@AlanMunn By the way, the radio has the “Gymnopédies” by Satie, in the orchestration by Debussy. I find them ludicrous.
@FaheemMitha No, sorry. I can listen to his music, but generally I don't like it.
 
10:15 PM
@egreg Ok.
 
@egreg That's exactly the effect they were after!
 
@AlanMunn Being ridicule?
 
@egreg Well they were intended to be humourous. And Satie was very much connected to the surrealists and the Dada movement.
 
@AlanMunn Humorous ≠ ludicrous
 
@egreg :)
 
10:25 PM
@AlanMunn By the way, my dictionary says that the spelling “humourous” is wrong both in British and in American English.
 
@egreg Clearly living in the US causes me to overcompensate...
 
@AlanMunn Maybe it's Canadian spelling
 
@egreg No, I just got carried away. I use Canadian spellings unless forced to use American by journal editors.
 
@AlanMunn I spelled “humorous”, but then, seeing you had a “u”, I looked it up
 
@egreg It's actually odd that the 'u' isn't preserved. For example you don't get 'honour' vs. 'honorable' etc.
@egreg It seems to be some weird avoidance of two 'ou's in a row. Because you also have 'valour' and 'valorous' (not 'valourous'). 'vigour' 'vigorous' etc.
 
10:35 PM
@AlanMunn Possibly the Latin spellings (without the “u”) have a role.
 
Hi. The top solution in the page numbering question, namely:
88
A: How can I add "page # of ##" on my document?

YuppieNetworkingI have not tried, but I found this at some old .tex files: \usepackage{lastpage} \usepackage{fancyhdr} ... \cfoot{\thepage\ of \pageref{LastPage}}

works for all pages but the first. Am I missing something?
I.e. I get 1, 2 of 49, 3 of 49, etc.
 
@FaheemMitha book class?
 
Does \thepage not get defined till the second page, perhaps?
 
@FaheemMitha Or article with \maketitle?
 
@egreg Tested with both article and scrartcl.
@egreg Yes, I'm using \maketitle.
 
10:38 PM
@egreg Maybe. The OED isn't much on explaining the spelling history. The 'u's have been in those words since Middle English, although there was a lot of variation in the spellings.
 
Should I not be using \maketitle?
 
@FaheemMitha \maketitle issues \thispagestyle{plain}.
 
@egreg oh. How tiresome of it. Is \maketitle not the recommended way of making a title? That's what I've always used.
 
@FaheemMitha So you want \fancypagestyle{plain}{\renewcommand{\headrulewidth}{0pt}\fancyhf{}\fancyfoot[C‌​]{\thepage\ of \pageref{LastPage}}}
@FaheemMitha That code should go in the preamble.
 
@egreg oh
 
10:41 PM
@FaheemMitha There's nothing bad about \maketitle, except that it issues \thispagestyle{plain}, so you need to fix the plain pagestyle too.
 
@egreg Oh. Is there an alternative to \maketitle that doesn't do that?
 
@FaheemMitha Sorry? That code fixes the plain page style.
 
@egreg I mean, is that some version of \maketitle that doesn't issue \thispagestyle{plain}?
 
@FaheemMitha Not sure of what you mean. You can redefine \maketitle to whatever pleases you.
 
I'm getting weird error messages with that code. Maybe a cut and paste issue.
@egreg I mean something that does the same thing, but without the \thispagestyle{plain} side-effect.
! Package Fancyhdr Error: Illegal char `' in \fancyfoot argument: [Cïżœïżœ
ïżœ].
 
10:45 PM
@FaheemMitha file encoding error?
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, apparently that C wasn't really a C.
Fixed now. When they're whitespace characters, it's really fun.
 
@FaheemMitha Strange characters got into that. Here's the example
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fancyhdr,lastpage}
\pagestyle{fancy}
\renewcommand{\headrulewidth}{0pt}
\fancyhf{}
\fancyfoot[C]{\thepage\ of \pageref{LastPage}}
\fancypagestyle{plain}{%
  \renewcommand{\headrulewidth}{0pt}%
  \fancyhf{}%
  \fancyfoot[C]{\thepage\ of \pageref{LastPage}}%
}
 
@egreg Thank you.
 
@FaheemMitha No the C was a C but it was followed by U+200c ZERO WIDTH NON-JOINER and U+200b ZERO WIDTH SPACE helpfully added by the chat system when it wrapped the line
 
@DavidCarlisle Oh, that's very helpful of the chat system. What do those characters do?
 
10:49 PM
@FaheemMitha nothing, nothing useful, they are both zero width spaces with different line breaking behaviours and semantics about any word split with them, but having both together is just odd, and having them inserted into code fragments is silly, but it's come up before, just seems to happen in chat
 
Maybe someone should add the above to the answer. Would that part be a no-op if \maketitleis not present?
@DavidCarlisle Oh. I'm impressed you knew they were there.
 
@FaheemMitha er you posted the tex error message showing the location:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Ol. Well, it didn't tell me much.
So, should I fix the top answer?
In addition to \usepackage{fancyhdr}, \pagestyle{fancy} or \thispagestyle{fancy} are needed. — Skippy le Grand Gourou Oct 13 at 14:07
I need \pagestyle{fancy} to make this work. \thispagestyle{fancy} doesn't do anything.
 
@FaheemMitha Yes, \thispagestyle{fancy} is wrong.
@FaheemMitha It's a quite old answer, when the standards were not very well established. Adding a full example would be good.
 
11:05 PM
It's so good to answer a question before it's asked:
It works in latex release 2016/01/01 but if you can't wait for that add \DeclareUnicodeCharacter{014D}{\=o} after inputencDavid Carlisle 1 min ago
 
@egreg Ok, shall I add a MWE using loren ipsum?
 
@FaheemMitha That would be nice
 
@egreg Ok, I'll do that now.
 
@FaheemMitha I'll have a look later
 
@egreg Ok. Thank you.
@egreg What does this code do, exactly? Redefine the plain pagestyle?
 
11:21 PM
@egreg hunting for ticks again?
 
@DavidCarlisle :P
 
@egreg you know if you use the current latex the error message shows you the hex number so you don't need to look in tables (because @UlrikeFischer asked:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle blood sucking fiends?
 
@FaheemMitha accurate description of @egreg!
 
Please correct errors/omissions as necessary.
@DavidCarlisle That's not very polite.
 
11:25 PM
@David: working on my thesis mindmap. It is so boring. :)
 
@FaheemMitha my first reading of your comment was that you were referring to egreg and me:-)
 
@FaheemMitha I made some fixes.
 
@DavidCarlisle ticks == blood sucking fiends.
@egreg Ok. Thank you.
 
@FaheemMitha yes so I noticed after, but the image of @egreg as a marauding vampire had to be shared once lodged in my mind:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I never drink
 wine
 
11:27 PM
@DavidCarlisle heh
 
@DavidCarlisle Well, that's not really true. ;-)
 
@egreg You never drink... wine. :)
 
@PauloCereda Except when I do.
 
@egreg Which is tautologic. :)
 
@PauloCereda I like tautologies
 
11:32 PM
@egreg ooh
In other news, am I the only one who dislikes GMail's lack of option for plain text main sending?
 
Actually, it's an oxymoron thingy.
@PauloCereda You realise Google is trawling through your mail, right? That strikes me as much more dislikable. Just sayin'.
 
@FaheemMitha @egreg doesn't like German street punk music AFAIK. :)
 
@PauloCereda Uh?
 
@FaheemMitha So does all governments in the whole world, and also at your local ISP. Enjoy. :)
@FaheemMitha It's the name of a German band, I guess.
 
@PauloCereda -- i dislike any mailer that doesn't have a plain text option.
 
11:35 PM
@barbarabeeton +1
 
@PauloCereda Maybe, but I'm sure Google does that.
 
@FaheemMitha Yep, they do. :) We are their product.
 
@PauloCereda Well, as long as that's clear...
 
@FaheemMitha Fine print. :)
 
@PauloCereda it has a plain text thingy
 
11:39 PM
@PauloCereda Not so fine. Quite horrid, really.
 
@DavidCarlisle oh it's unformatted text, not plain I guess.
@FaheemMitha I thought it was an expression, sorry. Those small letters.
 
And these services talk to each other. If I correspond with someone with a gmail address, some time afterwards, I hear about it from Linkedin and Facebook - do I want to add that person as a contact? It makes me warm all over to know that that Facebook and Linkedin machines are so concerned about me.
@PauloCereda I was making a pun/joke.
And yes, it's an expression.
 
@FaheemMitha Oh sorry for ruining it. :)
 
It says it's plain text:
 
@PauloCereda No problem. I do that to people all the time...
 
11:42 PM
 
@DavidCarlisle Interesting. I get this mail as HTML in Thunderbird.
 
@PauloCereda youve got mail..
 
@DavidCarlisle OH MY YOU ARE RIGHT
I take it back then. :)
 
@PauloCereda naturalmente
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
11:47 PM
@FlorĂȘncioNeves Hi, I was told to ping you about this question of mine a while back.
Apparently I spotted a bug in the behavior of tikz-cd (according to the answerer).
 
@Danu Hmm the ping will only work if Florêncio was here before. :(
 
@PauloCereda Incorrect.
I'm a chat moderator; We get super-ping
@DavidCarlisle See above.
 
@Danu Sorry. :(
 
@Danu i saw;-) we are used to only @JosephWright having super powers here:-)
 
That's fine ;) I need to work on improving my authoritative appearance so people will not mistake me as just some Joe Schmoe :P
@DavidCarlisle As far as I'm concerned, you are all superheroes!
 
11:49 PM
@egreg: Does a polar equation has snow over it? :)
 
@Danu perhaps if you looked like a duck instead of a mathematica plot, people would give you due respect
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm not sure if it's a mathematica plot!
(I don't know what my picture is...)
Actually, screw this, I should change it to one of my own recent tikz pictures :D
Let's see if I can find a nice one.
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh
 
@PauloCereda RG just told me I reached a "milestone" 10 people cited one of my papers. 10 people in 30 years :(
 
@DavidCarlisle Damn :P
I'd be hella proud if one person cited me
 
11:55 PM
@DavidCarlisle Oh my!
@David: You still have better stats than me. :)
 
@PauloCereda still if it's as accurate as all the other emails they send, it could be 1 person, or 1000 or perhaps they were citing someone else who has an initial in common with me or...
 
@DavidCarlisle oh
 

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