TeX, LaTeX and Friends - 2014-11-29

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percusse

00:04

@DavidCarlisle heheh. nice save at the last minute :)

3 hours later…

Werner

03:20

@DavidCarlisle: Proof... :-|

David Carlisle

03:51

@Werner oh on SO, shame:-) (meanwhile I'm wondering if I should go to bed or finish this uktug thing:-)

Werner

@DavidCarlisle I couldn't keep the secret long enough. :)

@DavidCarlisle: You've still not assembled a talk?!

David Carlisle

@Werner loads of time yet:-)

Werner

@DavidCarlisle I fully agree.

4 hours later…

Paulo Cereda

07:51

@tohecz Tom! :)

2 hours later…

Joseph Wright

10:04

Assembling for UK-TUG meeting

Paulo Cereda

10:21

@JosephWright Roger! :)

David Carlisle

10:55

@PauloCereda knives are out....

@PauloCereda skype?

Joseph Wright

11:53

Paulo: Heiko is one of the demi-gods of the TeX world :-)

egreg

@JosephWright Demi? ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg I mentioned you as a demigod as well. :)

Joseph Wright

Next talk: Simon Dales (UK-TUG Chair) on documenting code

David Carlisle

who mentioned vim :(

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Not me. :)

@David: how late I was? 10 minutes?

David Carlisle

12:07

@PauloCereda your slides will be posted, then people will see...

@PauloCereda we have biscuits here, it was OK

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Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Terribly sorry, I'm ashamed.

Damn timezones. :(

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda honestly it was no bother

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Thanks. <3

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda I checked how many stars we have for expl3 on GitHub: 71

Paulo Cereda

12:25

@JosephWright A good indicator, I think. :)

David Carlisle

Joseph is next...

Paulo Cereda

12:41

@DavidCarlisle Yay!

@JosephWright: fun fact: I believe the majority of my userbase is German. There might be some sort of efficiency attached to the tool itsef that makes it so appealing. :)

Johannes_B

13:29

Why do we have discussion tag? Can we delete the tag from the two questions?

tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/discussion

egreg

@Johannes_B Removed; but I can't remove the tag itself

Johannes_B

The same goes for blur tex.stackexchange.com/questions/212315/… and scantokens tex.stackexchange.com/questions/213659/…

Johannes_B

13:59

Is this on-topic here? And if yes, what tags to give it?

4

Q: Online tex storage

I have quite a number of tex files on my laptop. Recently my phone went broken and thus all my data are lost. I worry the same might happen to my laptop. So I am wondering is there an online site which specifically used to store tex file?

technical-environment storage

subham soni

14:22

hi

egreg

@subhamsoni Hi!

subham soni

I small doubt

how to wrap up code in verbatim environment

while using the fancyvrb package.

Johannes_B

14:49

@subhamsoni I am sorry, you have been told more than once to write up whole sentences in this chatroom. Why aren't you doing that? There are three snippets completely unclear (at least for me). You know how important minimal working examples are, right?

ComFreek

15:01

Is there a way to only plot datasets x to y (e.g. 10-20) when using \addplot table [...]?

I couldn't find anything in the documentation right now, but I vaguely remember that there was an option available.

I now found skip rows between index, but that obviously only works when x=first row.

Paulo Cereda

@Johannes_B :)

Johannes_B

@PauloCereda Well, what the duck? :-)

Cortizol

I needed \llangle (double \langle) so I use \usepackage{mnsymbol}, and everything is okay except that now my math font is different. Where can I see definition of \llangle from mnsymbol package , because I just want to input that definition. I hope you understand me :-)

Paulo Cereda

oxford:~ paulo$ texdef -t latex llangle -p MnSymbol

\llangle:
macro:->\delimiter "4374374

@Cortizol There you go. ^^

egreg

@ComFreek Interesting, but I'm afraid I can't help.

Cortizol

15:10

@PauloCereda umhhh, is that Linux? Sorry, I don't know how to use that

egreg

@Cortizol Do you really need \llangle from MnSymbol?

Cortizol

@egreg Well, no. I suppose I can use \langle \langle (which is bad probably), but I just wanted to see other way

egreg

@Cortizol There's Importing a Single Symbol From a Different Font

ComFreek

@egreg If you can't, who can? ;) I'll fallback to Lua or simply create multiple files myself by hand.

egreg

@ComFreek pgfplots is not my field. ;-)

Cortizol

15:12

@egreg All right, I will see that. Thank you

Johannes_B

@Cortizol This should be doable with pgfplots, but i don't know the keywords from the top of my head.

egreg

@Cortizol Here you are

\documentclass{article}

\DeclareFontFamily{OMX}{MnSymbolE}{}
\DeclareFontShape{OMX}{MnSymbolE}{m}{n}{
    <-6>  MnSymbolE5
   <6-7>  MnSymbolE6
   <7-8>  MnSymbolE7
   <8-9>  MnSymbolE8
   <9-10> MnSymbolE9
  <10-12> MnSymbolE10
  <12->   MnSymbolE12}{}
\DeclareFontShape{OMX}{MnSymbolE}{b}{n}{
    <-6>  MnSymbolE-Bold5
   <6-7>  MnSymbolE-Bold6
   <7-8>  MnSymbolE-Bold7
   <8-9>  MnSymbolE-Bold8
   <9-10> MnSymbolE-Bold9
  <10-12> MnSymbolE-Bold10
  <12->   MnSymbolE-Bold12}{}


\DeclareSymbolFont{mnlargesymbols}{OMX}{MnSymbolE}{m}{n}

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@Cortizol Note that the \langle and \rangle symbols from MnSymbol are just terrible.

Johannes_B

15:33

@ComFreek chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/18826545#18826545

ComFreek

@Johannes_B ?

Did you ping Cortizol by accident?

Johannes_B

@ComFreek Yes. I also had a relevant Link that was never sent and which i just deleted :-(

ComFreek

Oh, what a pity!

Johannes_B

@ComFreek tex.stackexchange.com/questions/178629/…

@ComFreek There was something simpler, as far as i can remember.

ComFreek

Thanks! I'll have a look. @Johannes_B

Johannes_B

16:36

@Mico APA requirements are stupid; the & symbol is good for a company name, not for citations. — egreg 2 mins ago

egreg

@Johannes_B Should I use a heavier insult?

Johannes_B

@egreg Would be ok for me. APA needs to give out confusing requirements to get new customers that break trying to follow the requirements. :-)

David Carlisle

16:57

@PauloCereda someone stole your duck again in a recent answer

egreg

@DavidCarlisle I'm expecting tons of upvotes for it!

David Carlisle

17:17

@egreg I'm sure you're not expecting them from me!

David Carlisle

17:30

@egreg you seem to be trying to steal my deserved harvard bounty?

egreg

@DavidCarlisle You've become expert also in bst?

David Carlisle

@egreg I can search for "author" and put "u" change.case$ after it, yes

egreg

@DavidCarlisle That requires mastering the language!

David Carlisle

17:48

@egreg I have actually written a couple of bst files a long time ago, I gave up when makebst came out as it seemed easier:-)

Cortizol

18:05

@egreg I wasn't at home for some time. Thank you for this

egreg

18:24

@DavidCarlisle Easier than BST? How can it be? ;-)

Nick

19:08

yesterday, by egreg

@Johannes_B I find the practice of describing the variables in equations an insult to the reader.

... No. Not always. Sometimes, yes; intentionally. Otherwise, no.

Also, Greetings everybody :D

Brent.Longborough

19:57

@DavidCarlisle Just got home. Nice day.

@JosephWright Idem

Joseph Wright

@Brent.Longborough :-)

tohecz

20:16

@PauloCereda Hi! Sorry, by then I was about to leave to meet my sis and my bro-in-law :)

The difficult thing: not to eat the 600g of expensive chocolate you've bought as Xmas gifts :D

David Carlisle

21:01

@egreg bst fine is backwards you comfortablle-are

@Brent.Longborough yes shame more people aren't there:-)

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Manage BST can Yoda only.

tohecz

@JosephWright has helped only 3.2M people. I think he doesn't deserve to moderate this site. /sarcasm

Joseph Wright

@tohecz Where does this rubbish come from?

tohecz

@JosephWright here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/244261/… and at SEDE: data.stackexchange.com/tex/query/251652/…

Joseph Wright

@tohecz I know that, I mean where do you see the numbers for individuals?

tohecz

21:10

@JosephWright for MSE yes. For other sites, I've created an approximate SEDE query to see the scale of this ridiculous stat

Ruben

@egreg Hi

@egreg just for curiousity: is there any particular reason why you "don't like" \if\relax\detokenize{#1}\relax anymore?

egreg

@Ruben It's not that I don't like it any more; but if I can avoid clumsy code, I do.

Ruben

21:41

@egreg I'd say it is anything else but plumsy. Maybe not so vividly as its xparse counterpart...

egreg

@Ruben In that case one needs very clumsy code, as Heiko's answer shows.

@Ruben However, it might get far simpler than Heiko's.

Ruben

@egreg okok... ^^ Btw: Your answer to my last question looks fantastic. But I need to look over it a few times.

egreg

@Ruben Recursive macros.

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