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2:10 AM
@DavidCarlisle Oh yes! I find it more convenient than using bookmarks in my browsers and then having to sync them across browsers and devices. I had something like 500 saves and I referred to them frequently.
 
 
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6:44 AM
@MarcelKrüger, @barbarabeeton: About kerning pairs in math (which is supported in the new engine). One thing one could aim for (to have an even grayness) is a similar area between characters. Three images will follow. First AB. Then VA, and finally VA with modified spacing so that the approximate area is more or less the same. One should probably also correct for the distance between characters not to have clashes. Thoughts about the idea is welcome. (This is just a play in MetaFun.)
(Comments from others are also welcome of course.)
 
 
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10:53 AM
@DavidCarlisle I found a bug in kvsetkeys ;-). Are you ok with my changes? Then I can sent the new version to ctan.
 
11:05 AM
@UlrikeFischer Looks OK to me
 
@UlrikeFischer been in a meetig, I'll look
 
@DavidCarlisle no hurry.
@DavidCarlisle as nobody found it before I guess nobody is using \kvsetknownkeys anyway ;-)
 
@UlrikeFischer Certainly strange
 
@UlrikeFischer looks fine, always good to have more \expandafter
 
 
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2:39 PM
@mickep -- This looks promising. I'd like to see a comparison with the equivalent text spacing. Of course, then the appropriate math features would need to be added to the .otf information and fine-tuned.
 
3:06 PM
@barbarabeeton Yes, it would be good to see how some good font (lucida for example) is kerned in text and compare. Also, many math fonts (otf) seem to rely on rather heavy italic correction, but I do not see how that is speced somewhere. What should one do with an italic f with a superscript? What should one do with f with a subscript? (Regarding IC). It seems to me more clear and predictable to use kerning, kern pairs and corner kerns.
 
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@JosephWright @PauloCereda Seems we can close the Niemann -- Carlsen chess affair by stating that Hans might not have cheated during that game, but he has been cheating before, and he still is a liar now, so he does not deserve to be trusted in anything he says or does.
 
@yo' Seems reasonable
 
@yo' I'm slightly worried by the whole thing, some might doubt my linguistic abilities as not being entirely unaided
 
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@DavidCarlisle ???
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
3:12 PM
@yo' Mluvím plynně česky, je dobrý v šachách
 
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@DavidCarlisle got it. (Dammit, I'm somewhat slow today...)
 
3:33 PM
@mickep -- I will think about this. Some font designers who can create good shapes aren't so good at kerning. Even fewer understand the requirements of math. Skilled traditional math compositors would probably mostly have been unable to create good fonts for the purpose, although they could use existing ones very effectively. I suspect that developing an "ideal" .otf font for math will require cooperation between individuals with different skills. And adapting TeX to use it is a step more.
 
3:47 PM
@DavidCarlisle That would be blasphemy!
 
4:27 PM
Well, today Saves had changed back to Bookmarks and all 540ish of them are right there. Very strange.
 
5:26 PM
@barbarabeeton Thank you. I might try something out. In the end I think that the only way to be able to compare is to have it available and try to get a feeling.
 
@mickep -- The one way I'd be competent to help is to look for good test cases. I'm pretty good at identifying "good bad examples", and actually find that to be fun. Would you like me to start keeping such a list?
 
@barbarabeeton Yes, please, good bad examples are very useful!
 
@mickep -- Onto my list,
 
@barbarabeeton And no hurries, I have a math guest here for half a year, so I will perhaps not be able to work too quickly...
 
6:10 PM
@yo' fully agree!
 
 
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8:01 PM
Almost have the Unicode plans working
Fingers crossed today or tomorrow
 
@JosephWright Yay!
 
@LaTeXereXeTaL see the updates at meta.stackexchange.com/questions/382019/… It seems SO caused some problems :)
 
 
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10:45 PM
@samcarter BINGO! It's working perfectly and all 542 of my bookmarks are present and accounted for.
 
@LaTeXereXeTaL My bookmarks have already been transferred to Saves and are available there currently, although the update says that they wouldn't ... let's just see what the result is after maintnenance
 
@JasperHabicht Mine have been migrated too.
@JasperHabicht I will have to get used to the new terminology.
 

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