8:25 AM
quack
@DavidCarlisle ooh

8:38 AM
@PauloCereda .....

@DavidCarlisle hi <3

1 hour later…
10:04 AM
@UlrikeFischer I think it would be OK to just rename README to README.md that would match the current position where mirrors.ctan.org/support/pdfcrop/README is the long form.

@DavidCarlisle I see Petra complained as expected ;-). I will sort it out (and look if I can find something to let pdfcrop find ghostscript in the git bash too without disturbing curious cygwin installations ...).

@UlrikeFischer OK thanks
@UlrikeFischer as long as it finds gs via the path I don't think the cygwin gs launched via a cygwin perl will pick up any native windows versions unless you do something really strange

@DavidCarlisle pdfcrop does a long search for ghostscript in many places and then use the first hit, so I was considering to simply extend the list for unix (which is the path used in the bash):
  my %candidates = (
'unix' => [qw|gs gsc gswin64c gswin32c|],
'dos' => [qw|gs386 gs|],
'os2' => [qw|gsos2 gs|],
'win' => [qw|gswin64c gswin32c gs|],
'cygwin' => [qw|gs gswin32c|],
'miktex' => [qw|mgs gswin64c gswin32c gs|]
);
Does that look resonable?

10:25 AM
@UlrikeFischer yes I would guess it mostly uses relative paths anyway so picking up the gswin versions will be better than nothing. in cygwin absolute paths won't work as if cygwin perl passes a file like /users/zzz/foo.pdf then a native windows gs will need c:/cygwin64/users/zzz/foo.pdf as the "root" of the cygwin filesystem isn't at teh top of the windows filesystem

@DavidCarlisle I didn't change the cygwin entry only unix (and added gswin64c to win and miktex), but I could add gswin64c to cygwin too.
@DavidCarlisle ah no, that is not needed I just saw the following code: it will look for gswin64c automatically for win, cygwin and miktex. I need to check how to handle unix here.

11:10 AM
@DavidCarlisle how do one setup such "tabular lists" like the history in markdown?

11:20 AM
@UlrikeFischer if ctan markdown supports tables (most, including github, do) you could mark it as a table, using | betwwwn the cells (and a blank line at the start) or just as an itemized list with -  at start of each line

How can I use align* inside $...$ math mode?
I'd like to typeset blah = \left\{ \begin{align*} ... \end{align*} \right.

@ComFreek you don't. Just use align*

so i should nest two align*?

@ComFreek use aligned not align*

works thank you!

11:24 AM
@ComFreek but for that better to use the custom cases environment which adds the { automatically

11:36 AM
\begin{align*}
&s\colon \sortType &&\mapsto \begin{cases}
&\domc{s}&&\colon \sortType\\
&\codc{s}&&\colon \sortType\\
&h_s&&\colon \domc{s} \to \codc{s}
\end{cases}
\end{align*}
that gives "extra alignment tab has been changed to \cr"
Can't I use cases within align*?

12:25 PM
@DavidCarlisle what should we do regarding the licence? lppl1.3c everywhere?

12:51 PM
yes I was going to suggest simplifying the text a bit as well more like teh other ho-tex ones, I don't think there is any need to say The latest version of this license is in
http://www.latex-project.org/lppl.txt
and version 1.2 or later is part of all distributions of LaTeX
version 1999/12/01 or later.
@ComFreek cases can only have two columns

@DavidCarlisle ok. So simply like in pdftexcmds LATEX Project Public License, version 1.3c or later.

@UlrikeFischer I'd copy the format from pdftexcmds/README.md (just with different dates) so:
## Copyright (C)
* 2007, 2009-2011  Heiko Oberdiek
* 2016-2020        Oberdiek Package Support Group

LATEX Project Public License, version 1.3c or later.
@UlrikeFischer oh that's what you said:-) so yes

I suspect I am a nerd

2 hours later…
2:44 PM
@DavidCarlisle I have now moved the whole content of the old readme to readme.md (hard work to get a markdown table to behave ...). I also adapted the licence and the authors everywhere (I hope) to 1.3c + HO+Oberdiek Group. if you could take a look then I can update again.

2:56 PM
@UlrikeFischer OK pulling now..
@UlrikeFischer checking the markdown at github.com/ho-tex/pdfcrop the "Windows" heading was still in the unix list so I just pushed a change unindenting it. Oh copyright, I'll fix here..
@UlrikeFischer pushed a couple of things but looks fine thanks

@DavidCarlisle I checked against the ctan tester and there it worked - markdown isn't easy ;-) (the main problem was that the ctan markdown doesn't like empty table cells). Thanks for looking I will upload now.

3:56 PM
@UlrikeFischer :)

@JosephWright did you fight with this too?

4:11 PM
@JosephWright any objections to me pushing the vi PR, I resolved the merge conflicts here...

4:32 PM
@DavidCarlisle Go for it

@JosephWright done. scary number of accents added :-)

@DavidCarlisle and the only word I recognized in lesson14 (latin1) made me look at the english text. I think Unicode-encoded should be utf8 shouldn't it? And the paragraph sounds a bit odd, as it is unclear if with "modern pdflatex" one should still use latin1 or not.

@DavidCarlisle Wow: I didn't realise he'd done the full job

@JosephWright yes
@UlrikeFischer yes utf8-encoded would be better than unicode-encoded

4:58 PM
@DavidCarlisle can you change it? I'm away now.

5:42 PM
Hello, I have been away for a while. Glad to see you again. I was wondering... Can MathJax be considered a TeX engine?

@bp2017 no
@bp2017 it doesn't really have any execution paths that resemble tex in any way

@DavidCarlisle, well, OK. Thanks.

@bp2017 it's pretty impressive javascript though:-)

@DavidCarlisle, yeah, and it goes along with SVG drawings well (to mimic pgf).

5:58 PM
@bp2017 hopefully one day it won't be needed but we're not there yet

@DavidCarlisle, we are never there :)
@DavidCarlisle, I'm trying to make a simple animation with "animate" package. Hopefully I come up with something later today.

@PauloCereda -- Was there ever any question?

6:19 PM
@bp2017 but perhaps closer than we have been for some time to getting math support in browsers

6:51 PM
@PabloGonzálezL yep, already saw it :)

7:39 PM
Puhh......
Katakana follows.

@cis wow, you were diligent!

@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz Yes, unfortunately. Or obsessed.
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@DavidCarlisle @PauloCereda

Would you still like to become a German language master?

Then I have a teacher for you here.

(But she is more something for the eye. I do not agree with her teaching on all points. Never be fooled with subordinate clauses ["Nebensatz"]. It is an artificial word that requires a lot of experience. In fact, there are clearer rules.)

@UlrikeFischer yes I'll do something