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3:03 AM
@HenriMenke TeXwelt SSL offers and requires now safer protocols:
Making the forum working again on the upgraded OS will take unknown time though.
 
 
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4:09 AM
@StefanKottwitz Since it will take unknown time and OSQA is discontinued since 2015, may I suggest to migrate to Question2Answer?
@PhelypeOleinik The talks weren't recorded, but Shreevatsa's material is online: shreevatsa.net/tex
@StefanKottwitz See also question2answer.org/qa/24213/…
@StefanKottwitz Another possibility is Askbot, which is a fork of OSQA, so migration could be easier.
@StefanKottwitz Looks like for me texwelt.de still resolves to the old server.
@StefanKottwitz SSLv3 must be disabled. It is not secure anymore.
@StefanKottwitz Please apply the advice from cipherli.st
 
 
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10:36 AM
@HenriMenke Oh, how nice! Thanks for that link
 
 
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12:37 PM
@HenriMenke SSLv3 was already disabled. Maybe you were testing the old site if your DNS wasn't updated yet.
@HenriMenke for me, all was green and "A" with the ssllabs.com test as above. Perhaps check again.
@HenriMenke can you make a test with an OSQA to QuestionToAnswer migration with basic setup and some dummy content?
 
@JosephWright can one tell l3build to install doc and source files?
 
1:08 PM
@UlrikeFischer install --full
 
@JosephWright ah, perfect ;-).
 
 
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7:01 PM
What's the preferred way to rename a file under git control?
 
@AlanMunn Hey Al, I was just mucking around about the Mars rover thing
 
@tjt263 I've never looked at the code myself. (btw, please don't call me "Al").
@tjt263 Your comment on schrödinger's cat's answer seems to say that you're very new to LaTeX.
 
@AlanMunn To rename a file tracked by git, you can use git mv <oldname> <newname>.
 
7:20 PM
@MarcelKrüger Great, thanks!
 
@AlanMunn you can also simply rename it. git normally figure out that it is a rename (unless you do lots of changes first).
 
@UlrikeFischer I see. But I assume @MarcelKrüger 's suggestion is more foolproof?
 
@AlanMunn It's primarily more convenient, as it renames the file in the work space, while simultaneously removing the old name and adding the new one to the index. But the move is never recorded by git as a rename; it's just that a file has ceased to exist and a new file with the exact same contents has been added.
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen I see. That makes sense, otherwise previous versions would get screwed up I guess.
 
7:36 PM
@AlanMunn In a sense, no old content can be screwed up in git, since files (and other objects) are stored in the repository index by the hash of their contents. But if you wish to move and edit a file, I would recommend moving it using git mv, committing it, and then editing. That should help commands like git blame to work better in the future.
@AlanMunn As is well known on this chat, blaming is important.
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen :) Yes, sadly in most of my repos I only have myself to blame.
 
@AlanMunn never looked at the code, for what.. an all terrain robot on Mars, you mean?
 
@AlanMunn You can always blame @UlrikeFischer, even if she never had write access to your repository, or even knew about it.
 
@AlanMunn I've been using it for about 3 months
I think like 90% of LaTeX users are new to LaTeX
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Actually the people usually at fault for my thesis class are the idiots fine bureaucrats in the thesis office.
@tjt263 Certainly Overleaf has had a big impact on that.
 
7:50 PM
@AlanMunn i wouldn't know
 
@tjt263 Well Overleaf has made LaTeX much more accessible since you don't have to install anything to use it. I'm fairly certain this has expanded the number of users significantly.
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@AlanMunn I certainly see a number of our students using it. Our university even has a site license.
 
8:20 PM
@AlanMunn sure, i don't think installation is much of an obstacle though
 
@tjt263 You'd be surprised. Many of the undergraduates I work with have never installed anything on their computer ever.
 
@AlanMunn really? i am surprised. but if that's true, how do they cope with acually writing with LaTeX
 
@tjt263 Well most of them don't. :) But Overleaf allows them to use LaTeX without having to install.
 
8:44 PM
@AlanMunn ShareLaTeX has greatly simplified the work for the trainer who taught me the basics of LaTeX 4 years ago. Indeed, he did not need to install himself a LaTeX distribution on each of the computers in the classroom that was loaned to him by the academy (and moreover, he had neither the legal right nor the administrative privileges necessary to do so).
He simply had us create a ShareLaTeX account and join the group dedicated to this internship that he had specially created for the occasion.
 
@AlanMunn I believe that Git doesn't actual do file level tracking. A design decision, apparently. But the net has more about that than you could wish to know.
 
9:25 PM
@AndréC Yes, that's how I teach LaTeX too. It has indeed been a great help.
@FaheemMitha And I certainly don't (wish to know). :)
 

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