@marmot egreg parla italiano?

@DavidCarlisle Si!

woo TL 2018 is frozen!

@PauloCereda Give it a blanket!

@egreg ooh

@egreg no need, @PauloCereda's frozen is about 20 degrees C

@DavidCarlisle 20C right now. Brrrr!

@PauloCereda look it got over 20 in the UK: see the recorded temperature here bbc.co.uk/newsround/47360070

@DavidCarlisle oh my!

Quite impressive!

So everyone got a finalised TL'18?

@JosephWright ye

spreadtab v0.5

new feature: one can choose the calc engine, fp or xfp

@JosephWright ^^^^

@JosephWright just loading it.

@UlrikeFischer All good! Sensible change :)

@DavidCarlisle With all honesty and sincerity (I don't like the lies), I have not look after the edit. I have seen only <pre>....</pre>. when I was editing the code. I wondered: if I change it to the {} symbol on the panel, the user will understand that there is no need to write in html (?) or C+ (?) code. I haven't looked anymore. I teach my students that you have to be loyal and sincere. I can't do otherwise, that is to say preach well and racialise badly.

@Sebastiano no one accused you of lying, but editing someone else's text without even looking to see if the result makes sense is not that useful. You did not use the {} button, you used the '' quote button. (that is prefixed it with > instead of four spaces).

@DavidCarlisle Good morning. :-( I'm surprise.

@DavidCarlisle When you warned me of the mistake I made and I pressed the possibility of going back with rollback, I saw what I had caused. I said to myself: but could it be that I modified all this, when I simply touched {}?

@DavidCarlisle With all my heart I am still convinced now that I have pressed {} and not ' ' quote button. .-( excuse me very much

Good morning everybody

@StefanKottwitz Good morning to you and all into the room.

Can someone check what version of Ghostscript does the latest MacTeX include?

@Sebastiano {} indents by four spaces and makes a code block, '' indents with > and makes a yellow quote box.

what's the easiest way of inputting very short cyrillic text in pdflatex?

@yo' you could use utf8 input and just type the text in Cyrillic so long as you have the T2 fonts set up

@DavidCarlisle yeah, got it:

\PassOptionsToPackage{T1,T2A}{fontenc}
\PassOptionsToPackage{russian,english}{babel}

@yo' shouldn't it be T2A,T1 if it is russian,english? (you have specified english as the default language for hyphenation and fixed texts but T2A as the default encoding

@DavidCarlisle no idea, it works now :)

@DavidCarlisle I think that in fact I call \RequirePackage[T1]{fontenc} afterwards, so IIRC, the options fontenc gets are T1,T2A,T1 and for babel it's similarly russian,english,english

being paid by a page, I'm happy with the output, not principal decisions :-)

@yo' ah that would work

@yo' add \huge and get paid more?

@Student404Mus zzzz zzzz\footnote{a note like this}

@DavidCarlisle regarding the Ббббббббббббб question: the document is not utf8 encoded (I got the test file by mail).

@UlrikeFischer well it should be, fix that first.....

@DavidCarlisle it didn't sound as if he wants to do this, also I have no idea which encoding maps Бб to something looking like an a and an upside down exclamation ;-)

@DavidCarlisle :D

@UlrikeFischer is he aware that doing something as simple as posting the code to this website converts it to utf-8 so restricting to non utf solutions is going to make maintaing the file difficult?

@UlrikeFischer @HaraldHanche-Olsen I'm sure you both agree with this comment?

@DavidCarlisle I remember well the yellow quote box with > to do a yellow rectangle where there was the error the OP, but with all heart I never thought I'd alter the code for the worse. I can assure you.

@barbarabeeton @yo' Welcome into the chat.

@barbarabeeton I'm sorry if after a month I read your message on meta.TeX.SE. where I had to edit the code of my old January question (if I remember correctly).

@DavidCarlisle hm, yes ;-)

@Sebastiano -- The last month has been very disruptive for me (retiring after 56 years with the same employer), so I haven't paid as much attention as I might to other things. I'm sure the delay was okay regarding your edit.

@Sebastiano hello

@DavidCarlisle I'm not sure if I want to know what mongo is ...

@UlrikeFischer MongoDB is a cross-platform document-oriented database program. Classified as a NoSQL database program, MongoDB uses JSON-like documents with schemata. MongoDB is developed by MongoDB Inc. and licensed under the Server Side Public License. Wikipedia

@DavidCarlisle now I know ;-)

@UlrikeFischer Knowing is half the battle? :)

@barbarabeeton Please excuse me for interfering in your conversation, but I am surprised by the number of years you have worked for the same employer? Really 56 years with the same employer? How is that possible?

@PauloCereda and the great thing about the modern world is that "knowing" == "half read the google snippet showing a bit of the first para of a Wikipedia article" so no actual study is required.

@AndréC she is 110.

@DavidCarlisle Exactly. :)

@Sebastiano with all due respect, instead of always excusing yourself, try to absorb the constructive criticism you get from good and wise people like @DavidCarlisle and do not repeat the same mistakes. It's becoming a trend now, which is not exactly healthy for the community.

@DavidCarlisle Does LaTeX also have an anti-wrinkle effect?

@DavidCarlisle ^^ he is asking this because you are old ^^

:)

@PauloCereda not as old as egreg

Good morning, afternoon or evening to the new arrivals.

@DavidCarlisle hm interesting :)

@barbarabeeton I am out of trim with my head and I should go and correct my students' homework in a few minutes. When you wrote to me about your employer, I immediately thought about my contrasting and contrastless magnetic resonance imaging of my skull to monitor two benign angiomas. From eastern Sicily I went to Palermo after a year of waiting. My greetings and I always wish you all the best.

@Kurt @AndréC @PauloCereda Ciao :-) :-)- I go out.

@Sebastiano A presto!

@Sebastiano Ciao!

@DavidCarlisle @JosephWright it looks as if Marcel solved the ligature bug.

@UlrikeFischer the ------ one?

@DavidCarlisle yes. I get a sane output now. If context adopts it, it should be okay again (but we should still consider to change the default). github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/pull/45

@DavidCarlisle -- Hmmmph. I started working for the AmericNan Math Society when I was just a year out of college. I started in a department that did special projects, so my assignments were quite varied, and mostly interesting. I got into the computer typesetting area when it was still experimental, and brought two different systems into production, one of them being TeX. It just hasn't been boring, so I stuck around. (I may be a fossil, but I'm not 110 yet.)

@UlrikeFischer -- Some of your tex.sx answers have been quoted to good effect in the blog latex-ninja.com . Were you aware of that? (The blog concentrates on the digital humanities; not the most obvious area, but a possibly fertile field.)

@barbarabeeton ooh ;-)

@barbarabeeton which reminds me:

@UlrikeFischer -- yup. another good application.

Campus today.

@AlanMunn -- Is that a real pond or a flooded street?

@barbarabeeton Neither, it's a real river, the Red Cedar River, a tributary of the Grand River, a river that goes roughly from Ann Arbor to Lake Michigan through Lansing and Grand Rapids.

@AlanMunn you should invite @PauloCereda for a visit :-)

@AlanMunn -- Neat! I presume there are bridges where appropriate. Looks like a nice place to take a canoe when the weather is warmer.

@barbarabeeton Yes, this was taken from one of those bridges right outside our building. And there's a bike path that runs parallel to the river. You can canoe on it, and the thrill seeking kayakers also like to have a go during the spring melt when the water is high and fast.

@yo' He knows he's welcome. :) Although I don't think he ever envisioned life as a duck involved sitting on a chunk of ice in -5 degree weather. :)

@yo' ooh

@AlanMunn ooh

tug.org/texlive/pretest.html

@JosephWright ^^^^ I'm first ;-)

@StefanKottwitz ?

@AlanMunn I suppose being a duck has also some benefits @PauloCereda ?

@DavidCarlisle ok, simplified. :-)

@UlrikeFischer Yeah, grinding slowly here

@JosephWright it took around 2 hours for me. I wonder if they plan a 64bit version for windows and if I should send the first question to the list about it ;-)

@marmot the best part of being a duck is being a duck. :)

@PauloCereda Oh no! That's the best part? How cruel! ;-)

@marmot you are mean

@PauloCereda You are confusing me with an Englishman.

@marmot oh

@marmot but Englishmen are not mean

@DavidCarlisle The average Englishman is mean.

@marmot but like government attainment targets, we are all above average

@DavidCarlisle Meaning even meaner?

@DavidCarlisle So you are trusting ducks? ;-)

@marmot always:

@DavidCarlisle Some ducks change their opinion very often:

@marmot oh

@marmot ooh

@marmot quack

impersonation complete

@DavidCarlisle Yes, that's what I expect from a duck.

ooh

Started installing TL2019

@egreg yay

@egreg Mine is going to go overnight

@JosephWright What is the difference between choosing "skip" and "leave open" when deciding about the closure of a question? AFAIK "leave open" doesn't undo a close vote, does it?

@marmot “Skip” doesn't add to your review count.

@marmot Skip means no opinion at all, leave open is activelly choosing to keep it

@egreg I see.

@JosephWright Yes, but if I have the opinion "leave open" it doesn't have an effect. Is that right? I mean if 100 users vote "leave open" and 5 vote "close", the question will be closed?

@marmot No

@marmot There will only be five reviews, it's the balance of results then that's important

@JosephWright And if 4 vote "leave open" and 5 "close"?