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CarLaTeX

03:34

@AlanMunn also on their colors: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/41?m=45311730#45311730 (I'd add blue)

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marmot

06:58

@cfr I removed my comment on the proof tree. (I have actually no idea what that is supposed to be.)

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Joseph Wright

08:47

TeX Collection DVDs to post today :)

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Paulo Cereda

13:35

Quack!

HAPPY CANADA DAY

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Quack

@PauloCereda Yay!

@PauloCereda I mailed the UK-TUG committee today about TUG2018: planning ahead :)

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright oh that's great!

Joseph Wright

13:50

@PauloCereda :)

@PauloCereda Workshop should be good

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Indeed!

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda I'm hoping we might see a follow-up later in the year or perhaps next year

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright if a livestream link is available, we could use a chatroom for user interaction

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Livestream would be really good

@PauloCereda Certainly can look to live-text

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright The link exists, I just need to see if it will be used

Joseph Wright

13:53

@PauloCereda I should schedule an event here to parallel the meeting

@PauloCereda Ah yes, of course

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright That would be very interesting!

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda OK, what time is it scheduled for GMT?

Feeds

Joseph Wright has added an event to this room's schedule.

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright don't do this to me, I am terrible with GMT!

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Andreas Storvik Strauman

15:44

Just figured out that LaTeX2e is on a very new version. Can I upgrade using texlive (tlmgr)?

Joseph Wright

@AndreasStorvikStrauman tlmgr update --self --all --reinstall-forcibly-removed?

Andreas Storvik Strauman

@JosephWright Anything more specific? Like tlmgr update latex2e or something?

Joseph Wright

@AndreasStorvikStrauman No: from the point of view of TeX Live, the LaTeX kernel is just another package

@AndreasStorvikStrauman If you don't want a general update, you can of course just pick a specific package (here latex)

Andreas Storvik Strauman

@JosephWright I did this (variants of tlmgr install latex --reinstall) but the version don't seem to update.

Joseph Wright

@AndreasStorvikStrauman Perhaps you need to force a format rebuild: fmtutil --sys --byfmt latex

Andreas Storvik Strauman

15:55

@JosephWright That seem to have updated the latex-command. The pdflatex command still provides the old latex version?!

@JosephWright But when I did fmtutil --sys --byfmt pdflatex after tlmgr install latex-bin collection-latex --reinstall it works like a charm. Thanks! +25 :D

Joseph Wright

16:26

@AndreasStorvikStrauman It can happen ...

Ulrike Fischer

@AndreasStorvikStrauman imho --byfmt really creates only the explicit format (e.g. latex or pdflatex) and not the whole latex family.

Paulo Cereda

16:44

@DavidCarlisle so far, your $20 is safe. :)

Alan Munn

@egreg What's the advantage of using your method for iCloud sync? (I don't use iCloud.)

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn Mine is disabled. :)

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda I use it only to back up my iPhone/iPad.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn I only have an old iPad, and it's disabled there too. :)

Harald Hanche-Olsen

17:32

@AlanMunn What method is that?

Alan Munn

Q: How to change the directory of my own .sty files in MacOS?

Right now, I save my own packages in the shown 'standard' directory. I can use this package in MacTeX with a simple \usepackage{} command. I want to backup my styles in iCloud without to copy it all the times. So I tried to create an alias but that is not working. Is there a way to change th...

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@AlanMunn Oh. Myself, I turned off synchronization of the Desktop and Documents folder in iCloud at the time I turned on iCloud sync. This must have been long enough ago that I had forgotten all about it … anyhow, there isn't enough room in my (free) iCloud storage for my entire Documents folder.

Alan Munn

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Yeah, me too. And I have a paid Dropbox account so I put everything there. And our college runs an OwnCloud server for our lab.

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@AlanMunn Well, so that seems to answer your question to @egreg, then: If you don't sync Desktop and Documents and want your texmf files synced using iCloud, then you've got to deal with the ~/Library/Mobile Documents/com~apple~CloudDocs path. But perhaps I misunderstood your question.

Alan Munn

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Ah, ok. That wasn't obvious to me. But yes, that makes sense.

Harald Hanche-Olsen

17:45

@AlanMunn To wit, ~/Library/Mobile Documents/com~apple~CloudDocs is the location known as iCloud in the left sidebar of Finder windows.

Alan Munn

@HaraldHanche-Olsen That's the bit of information I was lacking. :)

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@AlanMunn Apple is bending over backwards in order to have users not discover that for themselves.

Alan Munn

@HaraldHanche-Olsen How very Windows of them.

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@AlanMunn :)

egreg

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Exactly

@HaraldHanche-Olsen I cheated with a plain TeX file saved in the iCloud Drive with \input|"pwd" in it, which dutifully printed the path.

Harald Hanche-Olsen

18:12

@egreg You could just drag a document from within iCloud Drive into a terminal window.

Alan Munn

18:25

@egreg It might be helpful to add that to your answer, since it wasn't clear to me, and the OP accepted my answer (which of course works if you are syncing all your Documents folder).

CarLaTeX

19:21