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8:29 AM
@samcarter yes I can see people chasing a cheese down a hill are very careful:
 
8:41 AM
@AlanMunn :D
@DavidCarlisle ooh cheese
 
8:52 AM
@DavidCarlisle miktex broke your bundle: github.com/MiKTeX/miktex-packaging/issues/36 ;-).
 
@UlrikeFischer yes I saw an answer on the site just now. No respect for greatness.
 
 
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10:21 AM
@UlrikeFischer regarding this question https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/437631/100482

isn't it potentially conflicting with the `toc` when the page numbers are linking to the pages instead of the titles?
 
@naphaneal the question is about the page numbers in the headers. There is no conflict.
 
 
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11:49 AM
 
@samcarter ooh
 
12:16 PM
@samcarter Researcher in Image Processing, that's why s/he choose a beautiful image as avatar
 
1:08 PM
Hello guys
I have a very simple question that makes me crazy. How do I generate an index such that, for example, all words starting with the letter "a" will by placed under a capital letter "A"?
(the kind of index style one meets in most of the books)
 
@Waiting Hi!
 
@PauloCereda HI!
 
@Waiting I usually suggest this book: dickimaw-books.com/latex/novices/novices-report.pdf
It's from our friend Nicola Talbot, a great book for LaTeX novices.
In particular, see page 139.
She presents a nice example and details on how to create an index.
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{makeidx}
\makeindex
\begin{document}
I like ducks\index{ducks}.
\printindex
\end{document}
Then you run:
$ pdflatex myfile.tex
$ makeindex myfile
$ pdflatex myfile.tex
 
Thank you! My document class is svmono. The problem is that I cannot place the capital letter above each groups of words that start with a certain letter.
 
Oh Springer... :)
@Waiting Ah I see! You need to specify a style.
 
1:19 PM
How would I do that?
 
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Q: package makeidx: print first letter for each group of keys

BAD_SEEDI've created index with makeidx package. It works. What really need is to print the first letter above every group of keys (i.e. referring to the image I want to print the red letter, that I have manually inserted).

 
1:35 PM
The command \makeindex -s ... doesn't work when added inside my file.
Only \makeindex without other options
 
@Waiting You need to invoke a command line tool.
    makeindex -s yourstyle.ist yourfile
 
And how I do that?
 
@Waiting Which operating system do you use?
 
Win 8.1
I use TeXworks.
 
Have you ever used a command prompt?
 
1:47 PM
@PauloCereda Yes. I'm fine with using that.
 
@Waiting Great!
Open command prompt, please. And go inside the directory with your .tex file.
 cd yourfolder
 
@PauloCereda I'm right there.
 
@Waiting Great!
dir *.ist
What's the output?
 
I have already prepared a file test.ist, it's there. @PauloCereda
 
Fantastic.
Now try:
 makeindex -s test.ist nameofyourtexfilewithoutextension
 
1:59 PM
@PauloCereda I did it as you said, but the capital letters are not yet there.
 
@Waiting Could you show us the content of your test.ist file?
 
headings_flag 1
heading_prefix "\\textbf\{"
heading_suffix "\}"
@PauloCereda ^^^
The extension of my file is ltx, not tex.
 
Deeply sorry, it works for me:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{makeidx}
\makeindex
\begin{document}
I like ducks\index{ducks}.
\printindex
\end{document}
$ cat p1.ist
headings_flag 1
Did you run pdflatex after generating the index?
 
Yes
 
Try cleaning the aux files, leaving only the style and your sources.
And try again.
I am really out of ideas.
 
2:08 PM
It says:
Output written in project.ind
Trabscript written in project.ilg
LOL
I took the commands inside that file and I put it in the main file. Guess what?
ALL IS PERFECT!!!
(I mean I copied the commands from project.ind and put them at the end of the file, and a superb INDEX has been generated with capital letters as desired)
THANK YOU SO MUCH! @PauloCereda
 
@Waiting that sounds like you did not have a \printindex command in the main file (that simply \input the generated index)
@PauloCereda usual state?
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
@DavidCarlisle I have the command inside the file.
If I took out that command, I would have the index generated without the capital letters. I just checked that.
 
@Waiting well, either it didn't reach that far, or it's been redefined as \printindex does \InputIfFileExists{\jobname.ind} (more or less)
@Waiting no, \printindex does not affect the style makeindex uses.
 
@DavidCarlisle Right. I just mixed up 2 files I checked! Anyway, the problem is solved now.
 
2:19 PM
@Waiting if you mean solved by copying the contents, then not really solved just "avoided for now" as your build is basically broken and that is just patching it up by hand.
 
@DavidCarlisle How to do it then automatically?
 
@Waiting as in @PauloCereda's example above. use the makeidx package to define \printindex and then \printindex (just) inputs the generated .ind file.
 
It doesnt' work. No capital letters.
 
How many .ist files do you have in your project?
 
@Waiting to get the headings regenerate the .ind file with your makeindex style and re-run latex on project.ltx main document
@PauloCereda I was wondering that as well...
 
2:27 PM
@DavidCarlisle I used svmono in the past and IIRC they have their own index style...
$ cat svind.ist
delim_0 "\\idxquad "
delim_1 "\\idxquad "
delim_2 "\\idxquad "
delim_n ",\\,"
@DavidCarlisle ^^ svind.ist
 
@DavidCarlisle To be sure, you mean I should consider the command makeindex -s test.ist project.ltx once again?
(it's definitely one of the worst days of my life :-))
In the posts I read all should have been fine by using the command is already specified by @PauloCereda, but it simply doesn't for some reasons.
It works only if I consider the output in the *.ind file and copy/paste it in the main file.
That's it.
 
3:27 PM
"...you make a pie chart when a list would do just fine."
@AlanMunn ^^
 
3:45 PM
@PauloCereda :) The pie chart is actually doing some work though, since the size of the piece is intended to suggest how much of a Michigan thing the category is. Not really a pie chart, for sure, but more information than just a list.
 
4:01 PM
@Waiting project.ltx ???? That looks wrong! the input to makindex is the idx file not your latex file.
 
@DavidCarlisle I used project.ltx, the main file.
Sorry.
 
@Waiting presumably you just got a load of makeindex error messages from that?
 
Yes. I'll try soon again.
 
what's a Michigan left?
 
@DavidCarlisle Is any simple way of adding subentries to an entry in Index?
 
4:14 PM
@Waiting \index{foo!bar} or whatever character is specified in your makindex style if you don't want to use ! see texdoc makeindex
 
@DavidCarlisle Thank you so much!
@DavidCarlisle If I try to use imakeidx package and try to generate the index with capital letters is OK?
 
@Waiting yes makeindex itself is exactly the same if you use imakeidx package, it just automates the calling of makeindex for you.
 
Perfect!
@DavidCarlisle I try it again with the following command
makeindex -s test.ist project.idx
Is that fine to you?
 
@Waiting so that should make a project.ind then if you run latex on project.ltx it should include the file
 
Yes, a file project.ind has been created.
I try it now.
@DavidCarlisle the problem is the same, the capital letter do not appear. I think that file *ind is not considered.
 
4:32 PM
@Waiting you are doing something wrong but as you have provided no clue as to what you are really doing it is not possible to help. Make a small complete example that does not work the way you expect and post the example as a question on the question and answer part of the site, them someone will debug your code.
 
@DavidCarlisle How about if I would simply copy the content of *.ind file and add it to my main file?
The content of the file is perfectly OK.
 
@Waiting as I said this morning or whenever it was, that is just patching round a broken build, if it gets your document finished then it's your choice but since printindex is just defined to be \input{\jobname.ind} and you say you have a \printindex command it should not be necessary and it would be a pain to have to keep copying in the new index every time you edit the file
 
@DavidCarlisle You're right.
 
 
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6:15 PM
@naphaneal A Michigan left is a U-turn past the intersection where you would have turned left. I.e., no left turns allowed at the traffic light, instead you turn right, and then do a U-turn.
 
 
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7:30 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL
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@AlanMunn :)
 
7:53 PM
@PauloCereda GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAL
 
Poor Sweden.
 
8:22 PM
@JosephWright I CONTROL THE LUNCH
 
@PauloCereda Sounds good
 
@JosephWright TUG 2018 should be called birds' TUG :)
 
@JosephWright No pudding
 
@PauloCereda pineapple pizza?
 
@CarLaTeX Nutella pizza is good.
 
8:32 PM
@PauloCereda but it is not a pizza
 
@CarLaTeX It is! The hint is in the name of the Nutella pizza. :)
@Alan, back me up. ^^ :)
/expects some sort of semiotics/linguistic super power
 
@PauloCereda I was thinking today I might comment in one of my talks that TUG2018 looks a bit like a UK-TUG meeting ....
 
@JosephWright ooh I like the reference
@JosephWright but I believe we will have windows :)
@DavidCarlisle ^^
 
@PauloCereda Pizza for lunch fits the pattern ...
@PauloCereda :)
@PauloCereda Boo ;)
 
@JosephWright and hopefully monkeys and parrots making a lot of noise :)
@JosephWright I can have pizza at any time. :)
@Skillmon Hi mr. rabbit!
 
8:44 PM
@PauloCereda Hi mr. Duck!
@PauloCereda did you watch the game?
 
@Skillmon I did! And you?
 
@PauloCereda oh boy, what a free kick!
@PauloCereda yes I did :) Luckily. At first I didn't feel like it.
only turned in at around 40th minute or so
 
@Skillmon very nice!
@Skillmon I like watching games with friends
 
@PauloCereda I watched it with my wife, she didn't even know that Germany played :)
 
@Skillmon ooh :)
@Skillmon mum does not understand football, she just cheers randomly at highlights. :)
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8:50 PM
we watched this v v v v
 
@UlrikeFischer Oooh
 
@JosephWright music is good, but I won't better comment the libretto. And I think the goal scored in the middle of the "wonder happy end" ;-).
 
@PauloCereda I have a friend who build a strong believe that it is all scripted, similar to US wrestling like WWE.
 
@Skillmon not entirely scripted, but we had a couple of scandals in recent years...
 
@PauloCereda do you think the world cup is scripted? And Germany was supposed to score a goal seconds before the end of the additional time?
 
8:54 PM
@Skillmon I prefer not to comment, Brazil scored 2 gols in the additional time. :)
@UlrikeFischer ooooh
Is this Nabucco guy the goalkeeper?
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@UlrikeFischer the premiere of Nabucco? I'm sure that's been played before.
 
@PauloCereda after that there is something with "Oper" meaning "Opera". And the "vo" looks like the beginning of "von" meaning something like "of" or "from".
 
@UlrikeFischer Oh come on, it's opera: the libretti are always bonkers
 
ooh it's the Joe Green bloke @egreg ^^
I never went to opera... :(
 
@JosephWright yes, but some are worse than others ;-).
 
8:58 PM
@JosephWright well it doesn't matter 'cause you can never make out the words anyway, you just go along with the tune
 
@DavidCarlisle True, true
 
@JosephWright meanwhile souldern.org/event-2018
 
@PauloCereda the most famous bit from this opera is va pensiero which we used for the "rivers of babylon" ducks.
 
@UlrikeFischer oooh
 
@DavidCarlisle but there is a program which tells you what it is supposed to happening, and they show a translation ...
 
9:05 PM
Mar 26 '12 at 19:37, by David Carlisle
@Canageek moral of the story: never read the documentation, bad things happen
 
Would love it if someone could help me out with the following:
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Q: How to change font size and type of chemnum labels?

HazingaI currently find the autolabels from chemnum package to be too big and ugly. I'd like to change their font size and type, how can I do this? MWE below:: \documentclass[twocolumn]{article} \usepackage{tgbonum} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage{geometry} \usepackage{chemstyle} \usepackage{chemf...

 
9:20 PM
@Hazinga the question is not at all clear. First the example makes the error ! LaTeX Error: File `myfigure' not found. then you don't say what part of the output you want to change
 
@Hazinga as I don't have the graphic I can't test, but according to the documentation I would say you should use the replace-style key.
 
9:46 PM
@UlrikeFischer and @DavidCarlisle, I've now edited the question and included a trial .eps file to run with the MWE.
 
@Hazinga did you try the key I mentioned?
 
Another pretty quiet day on latex.org:
 
@UlrikeFischer I'm unsure what you mean by "replace-style key"
 
@Hazinga check the documentation.
 
9:52 PM
@UlrikeFischer I tried "\setchemnum{replace-style=\itshape}" and it made all of the labels bold. What is the way to further edit this?
i.e. what commands should I add to reduce font size, change font type to "\setchemnum{replace-style=\itshape}"
 
@Hazinga well itshape adds itshape, try \normalfont\small\itshape.
 
@UlrikeFischer I'm guessing these are fairly standard stylisation commands. Do you know if there's a good list somewhere?
 
@Hazinga in every introduction to latex.
 
10:41 PM
Look what I found when I stopped for gas in Hermagor, Carinthia: can you spot the plate? I just masked the numbers.
 
@egreg Bielefeld? The town that doesn't exist?
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@UlrikeFischer :-)
@UlrikeFischer The aliens are among us!
 
@egreg pink shoes looks a bit alien ;-)
 

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