« first day (2648 days earlier)      last day (2286 days later) » 

3:59 AM
I got a quick question about latex3
I'm trying to expand a variable whose name is contained in another variable
let's say \tl_foo contains the string "tl_bar"
I can't get tl_use:c \tl_foo to work like I want
 
 
4 hours later…
7:33 AM
@KevinKeith that should work, as always it's easier to debug a test example....
 
@KevinKeith \tl_use:c { \tl_foo_tl }
 
@cfr true of course:-) my comment wasn't really aimed at you, but the existing comments might have been read as saying that using T1 wasn't strictly necessary, so I thought I would add something saying that almost all the time it's actively harmful:-)
@egreg yes was just going to add that I'd assumed some missing \{} :-) and naming conventions (but not following the name convention shouldn't actually stop it working, should it)
 
8:16 AM
@AlanMunn Very nice!
@DavidCarlisle oh no
 
 
5 hours later…
1:05 PM
@WillRobertson: Quack!
 
SBM
1:28 PM
Hello.
 
4
Q: Double Bar/Overline

Luke CollinsI think that most people are familiar with the fact that \bar creates a bar which is much too small, yet \overline creates a bar which is too long. I recently came across this excellent answer where the new command \widebar is defined, which gets the balance perfectly: Now the problem is, one ...

I was messing a little with the \overline, \bar and \wideboar combinaitons when something strange happened with \bar{\widebar{A}}. The output prints two A
Does someone knows what's going on?
(Wondering what would a \wideboar look like :P)
 
SBM
\wideboar ... :)
 
@SBM I saw after I sent the message. Decided to keep it for the fun of it :)
 
 
1 hour later…
Hello!!

How can we place the equal = at the second line exactly under the one of the first line? Because now it is where the word Lemma starts.

\begin{align*}
\ldots &\overset{\text{Lemma 1 a}}{=} \ldots \\ &=\ldots
\end{align*}
 
3:04 PM
Hello @DavidCarlisle !! Do you have an idea about my question above? Or is it not possible?
 
anyone got ideas why my emdashes look so thin?
 
@NieDzejkob because a thick line isn't a dash?
@MaryStar \overset{\phantom{\text{Lemma 1 a}}}}{=} probably works
 
@DavidCarlisle it's almost invisible!
it's so thin it's grey
 
@NieDzejkob what is? You have given no clues, asking about the shape of a dash is like asking about the shape of a g so it is whatever shape the font designer of the font you are using thought was suitable.
@JosephWright oops, what is it doing? trying to edef a halign preamble?
@JosephWright did you see the luatex/xetex/tikz colour question?
 
3:19 PM
Do you mean

\begin{align*}
\ldots &\overset{\phantom{\text{Lemma 1 a}}}{=}\ldots \\ &=\ldots
\end{align*}

I don't get the desired result. :/ @DavidCarlisle
 
@JosephWright I'm trying out if one can run tests for biblatex styles with l3build (because of github.com/plk/biblatex/issues/700). Is there any way that I can avoid to hard code the engine in the runtest_tasks function? Currently I have the following which works, but I don't like the pdflatex.
 
@MaryStar no I meant use the phantom on the second = so it has an invisible text above it
 
function runtest_tasks ( name )
 local  tasklist =  biberexe .. " " .. name       .. os_concat ..
                   " pdflatex " .. name .. lvtext .. os_concat ..
                   " pdflatex " .. name .. lvtext
 return tasklist
end
 
@DavidCarlisle Ahh. I try it!
 
@CarLaTeX Thank you for the link. They have a nice logo ;-) I have not known about them before. The hysteresis loop is in many areas of physics perhaps as common as an anchor in maritime business. I think people who know about physics are often bad in arts and avoid logos with more than two lines. Else there would be more of these ;-)
 
3:22 PM
It works! Thank you very much! :-) @DavidCarlisle
 
@JosephWright oh I looked at the class, it assumes @tabular internals all over the place.
 
@DavidCarlisle Nope
@UlrikeFischer Your set up looks odd!
 
3:38 PM
@UlrikeFischer hm Lua
 
@UlrikeFischer The team approach is that you don't need to run external tools to do tests: use one set to check that the right things go to the .aux (or .bcf), and a second with a pre-made .bbl to test that the typesetting is correct
 
@JonasStein I think they chose it due to its shape. That party is only a joke, based on a double meaning (in Italian), LOL
 
@JosephWright Tell me how to make it better ;-). It is the only way I could manage to run biber on a lvt.
 
@UlrikeFischer See above :)
@UlrikeFischer That's then not testing the macro layer: it's testing biber (which is not really what l3build is for)
@UlrikeFischer I won't have chance today, but I will try to sketch out some biblatex tests shortly
 
@JosephWright I tried to made a pre-made .bbl but the .bcf always disappeared.
 
3:41 PM
@UlrikeFischer I'll see if I can look at this one day this week: probably not until Thursday
 
@JosephWright I just answered that tabular one:-)
@JosephWright vv
could you expand on "does everything right" do you mean xelatex does "something wrong" ? As long as it is arguably documented (somewhere:-) what the behaviour should be then I can see either behaviour could be correct, but having different back ends do different things isn't that great if it could be avoided. Specifically do you know if the difference is in the tikz engine-specific code or is this a difference inherited from the color engine specific files? (+1 though, I failed to find this last night:-) — David Carlisle 5 hours ago
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah
 
@TeXnician thanks for the feedback, I guess this means that xelatex is getting this wrong then...
 
4:08 PM
@JosephWright No problem. Btw: I'm interested to run biber anew in the checks as the main point of the tests is to check if something changed by a biblatex/biber update.
 
@UlrikeFischer With the new multi-config set up that is I think workable, but in two parts: one set of test that Biber gives the correct output for a given .bcf, and a second that biblatex typesets correctly given a pre-formed .bbl
@UlrikeFischer I'll do some work on this: I am formally on the biblatex team ;)
 
@JosephWright yay
@JosephWright: you could talk about in in TUG 2018
Then I will raise my hand and annoy you with ABNT questions. :)
 
@PauloCereda So they'll be atrociously formatted questions?
 
@AlanMunn EXACTLY :)
 
@PauloCereda Are you getting any funding from CNPq for the conference? Maybe they'll require all talks to be given in ABNT format too. :D
 
4:22 PM
@AlanMunn LOL I could talk to them. :)
 
I've been getting lots of ads on my FB feed for this: typeset.io Anyone know anything about it?
 
I'm trying to expand a macro inside \tl_use:c, for all but the most trivial cases I tend to get these missing \endcsname errors
is there any quick fix for this sort of problem?
 
@KevinKeith We need a full example of what you are doing
 
4:38 PM
@yo' The tickets you are describing are called around-the-world tickets. They can be really nice if you, say, start from Europe and have stops in Asia and America. (I've done that twice such that my net winding number is back to 0. ;-)
 
@JosephWright Here is a pastebin containing the code in question pastebin.com/gyN5uJyW
 
@KevinKeith You are trying to use non-expandable code in a place that needs expansion: that can't work. Only functions marked with a star in interface3 can be used inside a c-type argument.
 
@JosephWright hmm. Is there any convenient way to do what I'm trying to do here?
 
@KevinKeith I'm not really sure what you are doing! Can you describe the 'real' context?
@KevinKeith It looks like you just want to know if the first char is an upper case one: you can do that without a regex
 
@JosephWright oh, yes, that's exactly what I want to do. What would be the most convenient way to do that?
basically I'm trying to normalize a particular ASCII encoding of an extended-ASCII orthography
 
4:52 PM
@KevinKeith OK, untested but I think what you want is
\cs_generate_variant:Nn \tl_upper_case:n { f }
\tl_use:c
  {
    \str_if_eq_x:nnTF
      { \tl_head:n {#1} } { \str_upper_case:f { \tl_head:n {#1} } }
      { \str_upper_case:n {#1} }
      { \str_lower_case:n {#1} }
  }
@KevinKeith We are not talking about text here, rather code identifiers: they should use the string case changer (no context, no 'typesetting'), not the tl one
 
@egreg: halting problem? (solving TeX with TeX)
Or Entscheidungsproblem for the nerds. :D
 
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{expl3}
\ExplSyntaxOn
\cs_generate_variant:Nn \tl_upper_case:n { f }
\cs_new:Npn \foo #1
  {
    \tl_use:c
      {
        \str_if_eq_x:nnTF
          { \tl_head:n {#1} } { \str_upper_case:f { \tl_head:n {#1} } }
          { \str_upper_case:n {#1} }
          { \str_lower_case:n {#1} }
      }
  }
\ExplSyntaxOff
\newcommand\test{test}
\newcommand\TEST{TEST}
\begin{document}

\foo{test}
\foo{Test}
\foo{tEST}
\foo{TEST}

\end{document}
@KevinKeith ^^^
 
@JosephWright Oh wow, this is so obvious, I can't believe I didn't think of it myself, thank you so much!
 
@KevinKeith I wrote the case changer ...
 
@AlanMunn "LaTeX is too hard for most researchers."
5
 
5:01 PM
@DavidCarlisle Thesis is too hard for most researchers as well.
 
Jan 12 '16 at 12:15, by David Carlisle
@PauloCereda finished your thesis?
 
@DavidCarlisle oh no
 
@PauloCereda you should have used wordperfect, you'd be finished by now
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
5:28 PM
@DavidCarlisle Exhibit A: tex.stackexchange.com/q/412888/2693
 
@AlanMunn Exhibit B:
 
SBM
Good night.
 
Oh @PauloCereda's thesis doesn't show
 
SBM
LaTeX is fun though
 
@DavidCarlisle hm?
 
 
@PauloCereda You were Exhibit B
 
@AlanMunn A bee?! :)
I think this image solves our pizza issues. The pizza topping is... pizza. :)
2
 
6:33 PM
@PauloCereda How many iterations can one do?
 
Oct 12 '17 at 15:46, by Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda The recursive Pizza one? I.e. Pizza on top of pizza on top of pizza ....
Oct 12 '17 at 15:48, by Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer ooh infinite pizza
 
@DavidCarlisle Not really. If the topping pizza is always half the size of the pizza below, you'll get effectively two pizze.
 
@marmot I'm just writing a section about geometric sums, maybe this could be included as an example :)
 
6:50 PM
Hello, someone can help me : tex.stackexchange.com/questions/412909/…
 
7:02 PM
@mickep Yes. But please make sure that the pizze stay vegetarian. ;-)
 
@marmot as a matter of fact, it was a funghi! :D
 
@mickep Isn't funghi plural? Could you please check with @CarLaTeX ?
 
@marmot it's not a real pizza if it hasn't got pineapple
 
@marmot Hehe, it is called funghi all over the country here, but that might be some kind of misunderstanding...
 
@DavidCarlisle brrrrr
@mickep Well, mushroom doesn't have the singular vs. plural distinction. But on this site, I get wiggles under pizze, so they allow me only to eat one pizza at a time. How can someone be so cruel to a marmot?
 
7:09 PM
@marmot I have no good answer to that. :(
 
@marmot plural of pizza is pizzas
 
@mickep Just checked, pizzas does not get wiggles, meaning that I can have more than one pizza as long as they are not Italian. Also cruel. (I've heard that there are people in the UK who even put pineapples on pizze. OK, @DavidCarlisle they call them pizzas then, indicating them as fake pizze. Makes sense.)
@DavidCarlisle I guess that's just another thing you and @egreg will disagree on. ;-)
 
hello, someone have an idea about my problem ?
 
@egreg do you want an invite to the ho-tex github organisation so you can fix your own issues?
 
I have no idea what this means, but I think someone is conflicted about their editor choices.
 
7:31 PM
@AlanMunn it roughly translates as: "I wish I'd used emacs"
 
7:41 PM
@Vrouvrou is that really a convenient way to writing arabic, rather than use xelatex where you could write it as اكتبي بالعربية ?
 
8:03 PM
@DavidCarlisle i don't have arabic on my pc and i don't have much time to r write all
 
8:24 PM
@Vrouvrou OK, I can not read it or write it so I can not judge but it seems that f you can read arabic, writing it in the usual script would be easier. arabtex is a very old system which did a great job making arabic work for classic 8bit tex, but it is not often seen here now as most people needing this use a system that allows arabic input.
 
@JosephWright I don't think that this is what I want to test. bcf and bbl can change between biblatex/biber versions but this not a problem. I want to compare the output (boxes) from a given tex and a given bib.
 
8:52 PM
@marmot Yes, funghi is plural (@mickep)
The singular is fungo :)
And the plural of a real pizza is pizze
 
9:09 PM
@CarLaTeX everyone knows that it is one piza, two pizza, three pizzza.
 
@DavidCarlisle You're probably talking about the fake pizzas which have pineapple on top. @CarLaTeX and I are talking about the real thing. ;-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Do you mean pi\za, pi\zzas and pi\zzza?(@marmot)
 
@CarLaTeX ;-) Or pi\zz a or pi{\zz}a ? \def\zz{\embarass\my\tongue} ?
 
@marmot \pi\zz\aa
 
9:31 PM
@marmot LOL
 
@DavidCarlisle luatex 1.07 broke \hyphenation ;-) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/412894/… (doesn't work in texlive with a new luatex either).
 
9:50 PM
@UlrikeFischer hmm we should have some tests probably... Are you going to mail the luatex list?
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, just made a context example.
 
@UlrikeFischer my translation service doesn't do latex-context translations unfortunately
 
@DavidCarlisle ;-). I just send the message. I hope it passes through gmane ...
 
10:05 PM
@UlrikeFischer reached here thanks
 
 
1 hour later…
cfr
11:28 PM
@egreg Does that follow the naming conventions? If so, I'm obviously very confused.
 

« first day (2648 days earlier)      last day (2286 days later) »