TeX, LaTeX and Friends

Werner

04:43

twitter.com/i/moments/880861905132191744

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Apparently it's the world biggest rubber duck? ^^^

CarLaTeX

05:30

@Werner Yay! @PauloCereda ^^^

CarLaTeX

07:31

The brown review button is really annying :(

Moriambar

07:41

@CarLaTeX I liked it

CarLaTeX

@Moriambar When you reach 10k, it says there are messages waiting for review even if you have already reviewed them!

Moriambar

@CarLaTeX well I possibly will never reach 10k. I feel very useless on TeX.SE

So I'm still entitled to like the brown button

CarLaTeX

@Moriambar Don't be too humble, I did a great job with the \\ bug!

Moriambar

@CarLaTeX I meant in answering, not in mechanical tasks

CarLaTeX

@Moriambar you posted great answers, too!

Moriambar

07:48

@CarLaTeX I don't know

CarLaTeX

@Moriambar :) That was a typo!

Moriambar

@CarLaTeX corrected. Anyway I really cannot find anything to answer anymore. I'll just perhaps go back browsing old questions to find duplicates

CarLaTeX

@Moriambar LOL We have 9,424 question without answer, I'm sure you'll find something to answer to!

Moriambar

@CarLaTeX believe me I already did in the past. There's a reason usually why they're unanswered

TeXnician

@Moriambar I found that too, but @CarLaTeX is right, just try a new category/tag field and you're very likely to find something to answer.

CarLaTeX

07:56

@Moriambar I think I answered at least a dozen of old questions, there's some hope to find an answerable one! You can search the unanswered by tags.

@TeXnician Same idea in the same moment... :)

Moriambar

@CarLaTeX @TeXnician It's what I usually do. But I am not sure I'll be able to do much, since I know basically nothing about bibliographies and tikz, and I already scanned table questions many times :) really I find most of the questions unanswerable now.

TeXnician

@Moriambar I had the same experience with tables. That's why I'm currently writing a LaTeX package and sometimes browse the questions not by tag, but just the unanswered pages.

Moriambar

@TeXnician :)

well I'm off reading then. Later

CarLaTeX

@Moriambar Sometime I answered (with a poor answer) to some old biblatex questions but it was useful, anyway, because it brought the attention of some experts (ex. moewe) who gave the perfect answer

TeXnician

08:15

@CarLaTeX Btw: In the unanswered I found a nice editor question of you. Has anything changed now? Did you find your editor?

CarLaTeX

09:41

@TeXnician I think I'll choose Emacs, but I'll still learing it and I'd like to try also Vim.

@TeXnician I'm still learning

TeXnician

@CarLaTeX Yeah, currently I'm using Vim (command-line) and Atom (GUI), but I understand that the choice of editors is hard. But it's interesting, half a year and you haven't tested the suggestions...

CarLaTeX

@TeXnician Long live to procrastination! I tested the other editors like "The" but they don't have a LaTeX interface. The only one I like is Emacs, and I miss only Vim...

Paulo Cereda

10:06

@Werner oooh

@CarLaTeX Yay!

Happy Canada day!

CarLaTeX

@PauloCereda I've just shot the Prof. van Duck's video for @UlrikeFischer with my smatphone, I'm trying to upload it here but I think it's too big. Do you know how much is the size limit?

Paulo Cereda

@CarLaTeX No idea, sadly. :( How big is it?

CarLaTeX

@PauloCereda 110MB

Paulo Cereda

10:21

@CarLaTeX Oh it's quite big indeed. How long?

CarLaTeX

@PauloCereda 00:00:53

Paulo Cereda

@CarLaTeX I think your smartphone recorded the video with its max resolution (mine does that too). We would need to downsample the video a little.

CarLaTeX

@PauloCereda No idea how to do it, I don't make video usually :(

Paulo Cereda

@CarLaTeX poking.

Paulo Cereda

11:03

@UlrikeFischer: I just saw @CarLaTeX's video. If that video does not bring the competition to Mönchengladbach, nothing else will!

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda I'm looking forward to seeing it!!! But I knew she would make a good one ;-) Can you help @CarLaTeX to make the file size smaller?

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer Already did. :)

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda Thanks ;-). I searched a bit and found some site explaining how to do it, but have no experience at all ...

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer Oh no worries. :)

Ulrike Fischer

@CarLaTeX Tell me when you upload it so that we can ensure that it gets the attention the Professore deserves ;-).

Paulo Cereda

11:21

/drumroll

CarLaTeX

@UlrikeFischer See here: dropbox.com/s/6zh28pcrjldigki/20170701_112844_down.mp4?dl=0

Paulo Cereda

^^ if this video does not lighten up your day, nothing else will!

It has 3 ducks!

It's three times the average duck. :)

CarLaTeX

@UlrikeFischer If you like it I'll upload to the site you showed us. I tried to speak in a ducky voice but I think I didn't manage to do it :)

Ulrike Fischer

11:39

@CarLaTeX It's perfect!! Please upload it asap. It has 10 ducks! 🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆

@CarLaTeX But give as sender the name Professore ...

CarLaTeX

@UlrikeFischer I'll do it immediately!

@UlrikeFischer Done!

Ulrike Fischer

@CarLaTeX Great! And if you ever find your way in the next years to the Rhineland then come us visit. We will show you (both ;-)) the zoo and the donkeys and invite you to some restaurant!

@PauloCereda you too ^^^^^

Paulo Cereda

11:56

@UlrikeFischer Thank you! <3

@UlrikeFischer: we are a bunch of wacky people, aren't we? :)

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda Yes!

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer quack! <3

CarLaTeX

12:13

@UlrikeFischer Thank you I'll be very pleased to know you (and visit ducks and donkeys)!

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda Iaaaa!

Christian Hupfer

14:19

@Moriambar There were not much causes to cough recently ;-)

CarLaTeX

14:56

@PauloCereda There're no douck footprints in tikz decoration we should tell the developers!

Paulo Cereda

@CarLaTeX oh no

CarLaTeX

@PauloCereda Serious lack :)

CarLaTeX

15:28

@PauloCereda github.com/shd101wyy/markdown-preview-enhanced/issues/477

Alan Munn

Meanwhile in duck research: tiremeetsroad.com/2017/06/26/…

CarLaTeX

@AlanMunn :)

Joseph Wright

texdev.net/2017/07/01/l3build-development-picks-up-the-pace

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For those interested ...

Moriambar

@ChristianHupfer I know. Unfortunately I recently either had not the time, or more often I was unable to find a question which I was able to answer

Christian Hupfer

15:59

@Moriambar Me too. Written exams, oral exams, one week of class excursion to Augsburg, building the home ... very tedious things ...

Moriambar

@ChristianHupfer no not for me: I've been reading a bit of Paradise Lost (I'm at the end of book 2) and was able to write a bit of my novel, abandoned it and created a whole new one (very short story, like a fairy tale). But when I was here I actually was baffled to have been able to answer before. It seems impossible!

@ChristianHupfer you surely had your lot too!

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: With the person of D. Trump in Washington, the term 'Washington D.C.' can be read as Washington Duck Content ;-)

@Moriambar Well, I don't think that they were impossible for, but rather boring. A lot of duplicates recently, in my perception

Biki Teron

Hello to all my TeX friends I need some help from you which I have post on this link tex.stackexchange.com/questions/377699/…

Christian Hupfer

@BikiTeron You asked that question 6 minutes ago ;-) I think there will be more visits ...

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Biki Teron

16:14

Is there any chnace to read .pdf file in LaTeX and perfom some calculation, can you suggest me any idea on this @ChristianHupfer

Christian Hupfer

@BikiTeron I know of none, but that does not mean there is none, but I can imagine that even if there is a way, it won't prove to be very comfortable or easy. @Skillmon gave some hint in his comment how it could be possible ...

Moriambar

@ChristianHupfer maybe so, I don't actually know, I just feel there are no questions which I can answer

David Carlisle

@BikiTeron why have you moved the discussion here, so that anyone reading your question doesn't see it? but your best chance is probably just to use pdftotext or similar to extract the text and then add tex table markup in an editor.

Skillmon

@BikiTeron depending on how you compile your TeX-file, you could run a script beforehand. For example there are Python-libs that allow reading a PDF (as far as I know). You could write a python script, which reads the table, performs the evaluation and output TeX-code. Or you could use pdftotext + grep + tr (if running Linux or similar).

Christian Hupfer

@BikiTeron: We're not sitting in front of the screen and wait for a question to appear in order to answer it as a cat does in front of a mousehole ;-)

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Biki Teron

16:26

I am trying with pdftotext but it gives me output as single column that means all the column get merge to single.@ChristianHupfer

David Carlisle

@BikiTeron yes it's pretty much impossible in general to get structured text out of an arbitrary pdf, just get the text out and mark it up as tex

Biki Teron

Actually i have total pages of 602, so it may not be possible to do manually, so I want to try it TeX programming @DavidCarlisle

David Carlisle

@BikiTeron you may ask to make an egg out of an omelette, but that isn't always possible.

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Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle I'm very impressed with the optimism implied by 'always'.

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Skillmon

16:58

@BikiTeron you could try with MuPDF's copy feature. I extracted a table from a pdf with it and it worked pretty well. The columns where easily to distinguish and a simple vim find&replace later I was done.

David Carlisle

@Skillmon I think you mis-spelled emacs there

barbara beeton

@ChristianHupfer -- please! don't insult ducks!

Skillmon

@DavidCarlisle Oh yes I did, sorry. But knowing that I have a alias emacs=vim in my shell, I just replaced it for better readability.

@DavidCarlisle today I asked my shell what emacs is. It answered emacs: nothing appropriate. and I trust my shell :)

David Carlisle

@Skillmon you need a better shell

Skillmon

@DavidCarlisle which do you recommend?

David Carlisle

17:10

@Skillmon emacs shell mode

Skillmon

@DavidCarlisle I tried to start it, but all I got was vim...

David Carlisle

1 min ago, by David Carlisle

@Skillmon you need a better shell

Skillmon

I tried with zsh, bash and sh, the results are all the same

Skillmon

17:27

@DavidCarlisle If I install emacs on my machine, how do I open vim so I can edit text files?

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David Carlisle

@Skillmon best to not to enter danger zones from which escape is not guaranteed

Skillmon

@DavidCarlisle so you say I shouldn't install emacs. That's fine :)

yo'

18:24

@AlanMunn The optimism is implied by "not always", isn't it? :-)

Adam Liter

20:09

Hi! :) Is there anyone around who knows their way around the Windows command prompt and might be able to help me out with something?

Joseph Wright

@AdamLiter I guess

yo'

@AdamLiter Windowhat prowhat? :)

Adam Liter

@yo' lol. :-p @JosephWright I'm trying to programmatically create a TEXMFHOME folder, but I'm used to *nix and it's taking me a while to try to figure this out. Basically, I was hoping to be able to do something like:

mkdir -p $(kpsewhich -var-value=TEXMFHOME)/{doc,generic,scripts,source} && \
mkdir -p $(kpsewhich -var-value=TEXMFHOME)/bibtex/{bib,bst} && \
mkdir -p $(kpsewhich -var-value=TEXMFHOME)/fonts/{afm,map,misc,pk,source,tfm,type1} && \
mkdir -p $(kpsewhich -var-value=TEXMFHOME)/tex/{context,generic,latex,plain,xelatex,xetex} && \
mkdir -p $(kpsewhich -var-value=TEXMFHOME)/tex/latex/biblatex/{bbx,cbx}

Any help would be much appreciated! :)

Joseph Wright

@AdamLiter Windows mkdir will make a full tree if you give it the 'end'

@AdamLiter Let me remind myself of the trick to do the lookup: it's a for-based thing I think

Adam Liter

@JosephWright Okay, thanks! :) I really appreciate it.

Joseph Wright

20:18

@AdamLiter Something like

for /f "delims=" %%I in ('kpsewhich --var-value=TEXMFHOME') do (
  for %%J in (doc,generic,scripts,source) do (
    mkdir %%I\%%J
  )
)

should do the job: obviously you'll need each subtree

for /f "delims=" %%I in ('kpsewhich --var-value=TEXMFHOME') do (
  for %%J in (doc,generic,scripts,source) do (
    mkdir %%I\%%J
  )
  for %%J in (bib,bst) do (
    mkdir %%I\bibtex\%%J
  )
  ...
)

Adam Liter

@JosephWright Thanks! I'll try it out right now. :)

Joseph Wright

@AdamLiter We had various bits like this in the old scripts for building LaTeX3 code, before we switched to l3build

Adam Liter

@JosephWright l3build uses Lua, correct? This is my first time really setting up a TeX distribution on a Windows system ... so thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. :) Your suggestion worked, though I had to change the mkdir part to quote the path and use forward slashes, since the path returned by kpsewhich uses forward slashes, even on Windows, it seems.

David Carlisle

@JosephWright someone who wasn't me pushed a change to the openmath repo and my travis setup pushed the spec to gh-pages:-) (just now)

Joseph Wright

@AdamLiter Oh yes, I remember: / is valid in most places (not all, though ;)

@AdamLiter I think I said 'untested'

@DavidCarlisle Oooh

David Carlisle

20:30

@JosephWright that was the intention but until now no one had pushed any changes:-)

Adam Liter

@JosephWright Seems like life would be much easier if Windows used the same path separator ... :-p

yo'

20:58

@AdamLiter it does not use it on purpose: to be different from unix

Moriambar

What "range" should we consider in this special "answer the unanswered"?

Joseph Wright

@Moriambar My suggestion was 'during the mass edits': perhaps since April?

Moriambar

@JosephWright ok great

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Q: Roman numbers for long Table of Contents in memoir class

I have read some posts about this topic but none of them solves my problem. My question is simple: I am writing a final master work and I am using 12pt,a4paper,openright memior class for that. For the frontmatter (abstract and table of contents) I want roman numbers in a plain page style, so I u...

solved in comments ^^^

unclear vvv

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Q: Page numbering problem after title page

I am writing thesis. The problem is the page numbering after title page. It should be page number (ii) on Abstract. Instead it's page number (i). here is the code \documentclass[oneside,12pt]{book} \usepackage{graphicx} \graphicspath{ {Images/} } \usepackage{times} \usepackage[left=1.5in,right=1...

numbering

Moriambar

21:38

I think this can be answered much better

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A: Compile four a6 pages on one a4

Perhaps a sub-optimal solution, but something that works: using the atbegshi package, I was able to copy the AtBeginShipoutBox in the other pages, thus making your layout effective. It takes effect only from page 2 (physical) though \documentclass[11pt,a6paper,landscape,french]{article} \usepack...

also: I have to go. Sorry of being of not much help tonight

Adam Liter

21:53

@yo' It's because / is used to specify flags on the command line? I don't know much about Windows, but that's at least what a quick google search told me. :)

egreg

Can I have a vote to tex.stackexchange.com/questions/375461/… and tex.stackexchange.com/questions/375744/… ? Rep capped, don't worry.

Torbjørn T.

Any TeXshop users who can give some input to this?

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Q: Texshop autocomplete option

Is it possible in Texshop to have an autocomplete option like in Texmaker, so that I don't need to press Esc everytime? What I mean is that So instead of clicking Esc, it automatically shows you the possible options.

texmaker texshop auto-completion

(The OP seem to have deleted his account though.)

egreg

22:16

Off topic

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Q: Reveal in finder function not working in Bibdesk

I've updated BibDesk to version 1.6.11, and I use Mac OS 10.12.5 Sierra. And the useful Reveal in finder function does not seem to work. Clicking (as in the picture) simply does nothing. Is there any way to solve this problem?

bibdesk

David Carlisle

@TorbjørnT. answered as requested ^^^ :-)

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