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2:12 AM
can one change \directlua{dofile('FILE.lua')}
into
\directlua{dofile('FOLDER/FILE.lua')}
it doesn't seem to work
 
 
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9:52 AM
@cfr new kernel, new experience. :)
 
@PauloCereda Oooh
 
@JosephWright speaking of kernels, found this in my GitHub feed: github.com/apple/darwin-xnu
 
hey guys I really need a solution for this tex.stackexchange.com/questions/394021/… is there anything other than putting spaces or their equivalent in a text in which spaces don't belong
 
10:09 AM
@VincentMiaEdieVerheyen I just commented.
 
@UlrikeFischer Thanks a lot. That works. Only need to find out how to increase seperation between each character
letterspacing
tracking
 
10:32 AM
Lazy Sunday, yay
We ducks like sundays. :)
 
@PauloCereda guess what we had for evening meal on Saturday
 
@DavidCarlisle you are mean
Today mum is preparing lasagna. :)
 
@VincentMiaEdieVerheyen yes, although I usually use \directlua{require('FILE')} with require and no extension rather than dofile, but it comes to the same thing.
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh a Lua expert
 
@PauloCereda Lasagne emiliane yummy!
 
10:41 AM
@CarLaTeX yay
@DavidCarlisle ^^
 
@PauloCereda You should add Carla,lasagne
 
@CarLaTeX ooh <3
 
10:57 AM
@CarLaTeX No you should change David to Carla, keeping gifts the same
@PauloCereda no expl3 list iteration, disgrace!
 
@DavidCarlisle :P
 
@DavidCarlisle This L3 thingy will never catch on. :)
 
Which package is currently recommended to get multiple bibliographies with the old BibTeX system? I want to update the wikibook.
 
11:36 AM
@JosephWright source code comments in first code block....
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A: How to determine if a PDF page exists before including it?

jfbuI extracted method from package pdfpages source code, which itself gets it from graphicx/pdftex.def it seems. I initially looked at pdfpages doc but found no user level interface. Here is relevant documentation from its source code: % Unfortunately, |\pdflastximagepages| is not updated if |\...

 
12:27 PM
@DavidCarlisle Will take a look
 
12:56 PM
@DavidCarlisle It's the caching, but also I think that unless one does the image inclusion 'by hand' you can't expect primitive data to have any particular content
 
@JosephWright yes I assumed so, but I wonder what "the plan" was for pdftex.def to help out here I guess I'll look at pdfpages at some point..
 
@DavidCarlisle Hmm
@DavidCarlisle You will only get the right value if you know that a raw \pdfximage has preceded \pdflastximagepages, but one could I guess arrange to cache the latter somewhere predicatable
 
1:21 PM
@PauloCereda @barbarabeeton I want to rewrite the wikibook page about the natbib system from scratch. The part on biblatex is up for a while, though not linked on the wikibook, and there should imho not added too much. Please have a look at the text examples, do you have any ideas for BibTeX? I don't want to use the very same examples, on the other hand the direct comparison would be worth it.
 
1:48 PM
@DavidCarlisle Just need to do save the value of the total number of pages for each PDF included (if >1, I guess). I might add that to the expl3 version now so we don't forget.
 
1:58 PM
@JosephWright That would be useful. Actually I think it would be also useful to have an interface to retrieve the page count of non-included pdf's.
 
@UlrikeFischer You can I think only get the page count once you've included as an ximage or similar (doesn't have to show up, of course)
@UlrikeFischer One can look it up for XeTeX ...
@DavidCarlisle Working out how xcolor expressions work :)
 
@JosephWright Yes I know. There is a quite detailed answer about all the possibilities here tex.stackexchange.com/a/198117/2388. I only meant it would be useful if they were available directly with graphicx with an uniform interface.
 
2:15 PM
@UlrikeFischer I will add to expl3 later today (am looking after niece/nephew at the mo, so not ideal for working out interfaces)
@UlrikeFischer Of course, I still need to sort graphics inclusion for expl3: it and colour are my 'current interests'
 
@Johannes_B -- this may take me a while. just to make sure we're looking at the same thing: en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Bibliography_Management#Natbib -- is this what you're working on, and where might i look at the updates you're proposing? (of course, bibtex itselt desperately needed updating 15 years ago). i see that amsrefs isn't mentioned, but i'm not up for that.
 
@barbarabeeton What you linked is what needs to be updated (whole page) and what hopefully will be replaced by a complete version of en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Johannes_Bo/draft:Bibtex as part of the bigger picture en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/…
@barbarabeeton Bibliographymanagement gets an average of 1.5k clicks per day: tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/…
 
2:35 PM
@Johannes_B -- good for you, taking on such a big job. i'll try to think of ideas, and will be happy to cirtique/edit what you come up with. (as i think i mentioned some time ago, my few attempts to edit anything myself were shot down without comment, even though the information was accurate, trying to replace something that was outdated.)
 
@barbarabeeton This is quite normal. :-/
 
@Johannes_B -- sadly, a reason to not recommend the latex wikibook.
 
@barbarabeeton Do you know latex-tutorial.com? I think he just got his kowledge from the wikibook and repackaged it on a new place, including using [h!] for every float. To prevet something from this to happen, the wikibook needs updates. LianTze started writing about BibTeX, but for Overleaf: plus.google.com/u/0/+LianTzeLim/posts/h4eMcd6VmL3
Duplication i don't like.
 
@Johannes_B -- urk. i agree about the duplication. (the overleaf overview has an error in the \bibitem for the \TeX book' -- uppercase "B" and space in the middle: \TeX{} book`.) no time today for repairing things elsewhere -- have to finish writing my tugboat column and compile the calendar.
 
@barbarabeeton :-)
 
3:02 PM
@JosephWright What is the standard way for questions like that? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/394041/…
 
 
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7:01 PM
@HaraldHanche-Olsen thank your for your answer. Thanks lot lot
 
 
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10:22 PM
in a talk with a black background and white text, what color and background should lemmas have?
 
@Lembik whatever you like (why change colours for lemmas)?
 

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