@barbarabeeton Yes. In my opinion. [Just found I never finished this comment to post it - sorry for the delay. Off-topic: did you email me anything yet? I didn't receive it that I know of, if you did.]

I suspect this bloke is teaching... Python.

ba dum tss

Can somebody please give me cookies?

@cfr I'll extend my answer

@cfr Let me know if edits help

Morning @DavidCarlisle: did you see about new list for babel-esk things?

@JosephWright I saw a header in my email, (despite appearances I wasn't always on line on hol, so have some catching up to do:-) Just got back last night

@JosephWright I suppose we ought start testing luatex dev builds again :(

Hello

@DavidCarlisle Probably

@DavidCarlisle I'll forward you what I've said to Javier

Hello every body, in a question about enumitem the OP[in persian latex site] asked me why do we use * in the options of enumerate environment?[label=alph*)]

[label=\alph*]

is it enough to say it's the internal syntax chosen by the pkg author?

> Actually, the asterisk is currently the argument but things may change. Consider them as starred variants and follow the corresponding syntax.

@nima >A set of starred versions of \alph, \Alph, \arabic, \roman and \Roman, without argument stand for the current counter in enumerate

@JosephWright I don't understand the second part of this sentence: without argument, how can one use this command with argument?

@nima I think Javier means that normally you'd have \alph{<some-counter>} but in enumitem you don't supply the counter name

@JosephWright thank you, I roughly had the same guess but had to verify it and I couldn't put my guess in this way.

@egreg Do you ant to have a look at the code? latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=96057#p96057 :-)

@JosephWright could you please instruct me to modify the \alph command to print he characters that i want? I'm using xepersian and this pkg modifies this command but this modification is a revisionist one and doesn't use the thousand years old alphabetic enumeration which is Abjad.

@JosephWright btw, if it is not proper pleease tell me to ask it in QA.

@JosephWright sorry I decided to post it as a question.

@Mico I edited my post 3 minutes before your comment.

@Johannes_B I'm presently on tour in the mountains, but I can say you're missing fontenc with the T1 option

@egreg I didn't even notice that.

@UlrikeFischer Miss Fischer I deleted my post and earned a peer pressure badge. Do you know what it means? The script of the site interprets and imposes meaning on my act. My act wasn't due to your pressure or Mico's amusement by my helplessness,

@UlrikeFischer I deleted it after reading your comment and not after seeing another downvote, believe it or not I tried to downvote my own question but it said you can't vote your question. I think that moderaters shall consider allowing people to downvote themselves.

@nima The moderators do not control how voting works: that's down to the network staff

@nima Badges doesn't mean anything, they're just for fun. Ignore it.

@TorbjørnT. :)

@TorbjørnT. I've added a complementary answer to yours on the siunitx question: hope this looks OK

@JosephWright Of course.

@nima You get the badge if you delete a post with -3 votes. Imho it would by quite silly to downvote your own question. It you think it is bad either edit it or remove it. And don't write "Miss" - I'm too old for it.

@UlrikeFischer sorry, how should I know it?

@nima On the internet, best to stick to people's user names unless you know them in 'real life'

@UlrikeFischer I don't agree, I think I found a point of non-knowledge in the logic of the whole network.

@nima Somewhere on the Internet, I found another one. ;-)

@nima well, the thing is, there are things that seem illogical, but (1) some of them start to make sense if you know the system really well and (2) some things simply don't make sense and that's it.

@cfr I see you are about: does my edit on the looping question help?

@StefanKottwitz :-)

@StefanKottwitz :-)

@yo' Although the quote below cannot be applied to my subjective position of that moment, but can be applied to the logic of not allowing oneself to downvote. The concept of Homo Economicus is at work behind the design of not allowing for this.

@nima sorry, you're speaking nonsense now

@yo' online-literature.com/dostoevsky/notes_underground/7

@nima sorry, I'm not in the mood for philosophy really

It's literature although the boundary is not clear to me.

@nima it would be pointless allowing self-downvotes (and self upvotes obviously are not allowed) but why did you delete the question? did you work out how to get the desired numbering? the comments were (quite rightly) commenting on the poor language, but the underlying question seemed reasonable

I am a duck.

@PauloCereda WHAT??? all these years we thought you were an owl.

@DavidCarlisle Preposterous. :)

@DavidCarlisle: back from the holidays?

@PauloCereda yep

@DavidCarlisle yay!

Miss you.

:D

@DavidCarlisle Looking forward to your comments on my latest team list mail :)

@JosephWright got to reply to Frank's (option clash) one first:-)

@DavidCarlisle :)

@DavidCarlisle Mr. Carlyle my fascination with latex is the gap between output and input. you look to the sky and see that the sun turns around the earth, but the internal system and structure of this phenomena is just the reverse. this overlapping of input and output in Ms-word is the reason I don't like. I (maybe wrong understanding of philosophical concepts) try to symbolize my relationship with Latex.

@DavidCarlisle ... trry to ssymbolize my ... in this way

o.O

@nima I have no idea what that comment is supposed to mean, and it certainly doesn't address my comment to you which was to ask if you had solved the problem, and if not, why did you delete the question (and my name isn't spelled that way, although as Ulrike told you before it is best to stick to use names)

@DavidCarlisle terribly sorry for the spelling, I don't know why even my professors ask me to call them by their little name but I feel I'm disrespecting them.

@nima Like I said before, stick to user names :-)

@nima I actually do know @DavidCarlisle 'in real life' but here I still use his user name (same with various other people)

@JosephWright is he monocromatic? :)

@PauloCereda No I'm a brown owl

@PauloCereda I couldn't possibly comment

@DavidCarlisle I thought @Jake was the official owl. :)

@JosephWright ooh a secret

@PauloCereda wavelength changing aura

@StefanKottwitz I am too dumb to understand this sentence. :)

@PauloCereda I'm too dumb to say it :-)

@DavidCarlisle now, I know why my phrasing was in that form, simply put it I didn't want the answer. If it wouldn't be a source of discontent to you please consider reading this one:

Whereas Hamlet has been insistently demanding that she clean up her act, thrust aside lust, and “assume a virtue, if [she has] it not”—in a word, that she give up on her desire—he suddenly backs down. He seems to do so at the very moment at which he senses her acquiescence, and no doubt precisely because she seems to be acquiescing.

Hamlet makes a demand upon her—throw the toad out— and yet as soon as  she begins to yield, he says, “forget it.” In response to her “What shall I do?” he replies: “Not this, by no means, that I bid you do.”

@nima sorry I give up, you clearly just want to talk in riddles.

@DavidCarlisle ok. I just didn't refer to the authors of these lines, they were not by me.

@nima I actually use only the first name for people that I know in real life like @Joseph or @David but also, this works with the @ calls only if the first name is the prefix of their nickname here. You can call me Tom as some people here do, but @Tom won't reach me :-)

@yo' Have to be careful when someone else with the same name pops in!

@JosephWright yeah, but you know that the first person that shows up in the hint is the one reached (well, I at least hope it's so)

@yo' If there would be another @Johannes in here, we both would get pinged.

@Johannes_B no, if there were a @Johannes without _B, he would get pinged and not you

@yo' I once was in a room with another one, and i got all the pings as well. Maybe they changed that now.

@Jo test

@Johannes_B oh really? too bad :(

@PauloCereda Too short: need at least three chars

@PauloCereda that's too short, three letters needed

@JosephWright Oh.

@yo' Oh.

Oh.

Oh.

@JosephWright Sorry, yes. At least, I think it will help but I'm not sure yet until I think about it a bit more. Sorry, I'm not very quick at it.

@cfr No problem: deciding on the best approach here will depend on the full set of requirements, I guess

@cfr Like I said, there is an argument for providing a generic 'slow loop over token list' function with an interface that takes three functions (normal, space, brace)

@yo' @Johannes_B I can confirm that it is as @JosephWright suggests: when I intrude here (as I do from time to time), in the following days I get some @.David-s (sparing him the ping!) also, although it's clear they go to the also monochromatic, but non-i-umlauted "David".

Does anyone know where I could learn about how to properly plot spirals in Tikz? As in, decide where it starts, how much the curve will increase, etc?

@JosephWright It also depends on me remembering the requirements .... I was also trying to make it easy to extend the functionality in the future, which was part of why I hoped to use a loop. However, perhaps you're right that it can't get too complicated if it is just date formatting. (But since I'm already up to 10 replacements, it may well go beyond a dozen.) I'm sure your edit will be useful, though, even if it just helps me to decide not to do what I hoped to! Your answer was already v.helpful.

@yo' Do you know about Zatec beer?

@egreg Žatec you mean? It's made in the middle of the lands of hops, and it's a smallish brewery, so it shall be fine :) But I think I've never had it

I

@yo' I found a place about Padova where they have it

@egreg cool! Finally someone understands that lager shall be Czech :-)

@yo' Next time I'll taste it

@egreg you have to ;-) In general, taking Czech lagers shan't be a tragedy, unless you take the ones that are too cheap to even be exported :-)

@egreg Try brewdog punk indian pale ale if you can find it - I stumbled across it in Rotterdam a few days ago, just wow (link)

@Alenanno pgfplots, then it's just math and axis parameters

@JosephWright I have fingerprint 9109 3DBE 5438 30B6 5B86 B85A 5D46 E240 1C72 B261. How's that?

@Brent.Longborough wasn't it supposed to be private? :-O

@yo' No, you can't work back from that to the key itself...

@yo' And it's his public key -- this is just to check someone hasn't sent me a spoofed public key

@Brent.Longborough ah ok

@Brent.Longborough Aye

@Brent.Longborough All correct

@JosephWright Thanks. All sorted. I'll sign it and send it back

@yo' Had to set up a new public key as I lost the password for the old one: luckily I'd got a revocation cert (didn't used to do that: look me up on a keyserver and see very old email addresses!)

Safe return home, holiday end.

@egreg Good, less good :-)

@StefanKottwitz The math is the problem in this case. I don't understand/know how to write the function for it.

@Alenanno usually polar coordinates

@Alenanno Example: Archimedean spiral

@JosephWright First key sig: F74B B2F0 A492 ABC5 5EB6 279C 41D6 1C6C 1062 FD86

@JosephWright Second key sig: BFBC 3A23 8717 62E8 69F2 FD90 E919 E2A5 6FBF 2444

@JosephWright Plus email on the way

@Brent.Longborough Ack

Good night from Byzantium

@JosephWright BTW, I see you are not on WhatsApp?

@Brent.Longborough No: I'd need an emulator

@Brent.Longborough Frank tells me there's some better thing ...

@JosephWright Signal, possibly

@JosephWright Emulator? Does your phone run OpenBSD?

@Brent.Longborough threema

@Brent.Longborough Nope

@Brent.Longborough I mean a smartphone emulator :-)

I did run one for a while, but it was painful

@JosephWright Ah. That sounds like a good life choice. Truly!

@Brent.Longborough Nokia C1 FTW

@JosephWright RIP

@JosephWright :-)

@JosephWright Threema's good, but most of my friends (99%) are on WA. That may change with the facebook snoopery

@Brent.Longborough latex team members don't have that problem: we have no friends.

@DavidCarlisle s/friends/interlocutors/ then

@DavidCarlisle :)

OK, this time for real, good night from Constantinople

@DavidCarlisle I see you had a lot to say to Frank :-)

@StefanKottwitz Thanks for the link! I'll check that out.

@Brent.Longborough We used to call it Bisantium, when we were younger. ;-)

@egreg @Brent.Longborough probably called it Byzantium, being English

@JosephWright I was a very poor Latin speaker at the time. ;-)

@egreg Romanes eunt domus ;-)

@JosephWright Domi bellique

@JosephWright Romani ite domum

@yo' Indeed

@Brent.Longborough oh no, WhatsApp!

Anatrae

@Brent.Longborough No Istanbul? :)

@JosephWright Should I get an account?

"Made in Switzerland"

hmmmmm

Threema is paid! Gasp.