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12:07 AM
/me warms Paulo with a blanket
 
 
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1:08 AM
Lord have mercy, 10C!
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
 
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6:03 AM
@PauloCereda LOL. Whether forecast for this week: high 17, 18, 11, 17, 19, 21 low 5, 7, 5, 4, 6, 8 :)
 
 
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8:32 AM
My only two gold badges on Academia are both Populist. Now you know what I am all about :-)
 
9:18 AM
@PauloCereda Nice tempature!!!
 
9:29 AM
@ChristianHupfer For penguins!
 
@egreg And Black Foresters
Another 'non-palindrome'
 
@ChristianHupfer Do you also celebrate prime numbers? :)
 
@phell No, I am not a looney :-P
 
Hee hee hee.
 
@phell We could celebrate at Mersenne primes: next target 524287 ;-)
 
9:43 AM
@egreg That would surely be worth an ice-cream.
In a collection of papers, would you have one bibliography at the end or one for each paper?
 
10:03 AM
It seems common at our university to have the thesis in two parts, Thesis and Included Papers. Thesis has its own bibliography and the included papers have one bibliography for each paper.
Is there an easy way to get each bibliography to use the same bst file?
 
10:40 AM
@phell How do you make those multiple bibliographies?
 
@egreg I am reading about something called imakeidx but I am not sure yet which the best approach is.
I think the others are using some strange solution because their paper bibliographies does not look the same in the ToC as the Thesis bibliography.
 
@egreg You'd not recommend imakeidx would you? :-)
 
@phell That's not for bibliographies. Multiple bibs are quite easy with biblatex
@DavidCarlisle Would you recommend using colortbl?
 
@egreg no
 
@egreg There is something in the university class file that does not like biblatex (which is awesome otherwise).
 
@egreg I will take a look! :)
I got hold of a thesis tex file. He used input and putbib for each included paper.
 
@yo, @Christian, @egreg: Ducks don't like low temperatures. :)
 
11:09 AM
@PauloCereda what we need is one of these ^^^^
 
@DavidCarlisle You are so mean! :)
 
11:53 AM
@PauloCereda The new flavour of ice cream albatross frozen duck ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer :)
 
@PauloCereda Very tasty, to be served with a hot and spicy sauce ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer You are also mean! :)
 
@PauloCereda I have never claimed I would not be mean at all ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer Dark side Black Foresters. :)
 
12:01 PM
@PauloCereda I feel good :-P
 
@ChristianHupfer the Flanders Pigeon Murderer!
 
@PauloCereda No, I don't kill pigeons, I don't even eat them
 
@ChristianHupfer :)
 
@PauloCereda -- i think you'll find that eiders and oldsquaws manage cold quite well. hmmm. we should find you an eiderdown quilt.
 
@barbarabeeton yay! I think I have one nearby. :)
 
12:14 PM
@PauloCereda We've got a German word: Frostbeule ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer ooh
 
12:31 PM
In bibunits documentation it says "To process your document, three runs of LATEX and two runs of BibTEX are required." Does that means the new compile sequence will be
pdflatex(X3), bibtex(X2), pdflatex(X2), makeindex, pdflatex?
 
@phell rather latex, bibtex,latex,bibtex,makeindex,latex, if I remember correctly
 
Hi everyone! :) Anyone else being in a good mood today?
 
@clemens No, grumpy as usual ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer Yes, that sounds reasonable.
 
12:42 PM
@clemens it's so cold in here, help!
:)
 
12:54 PM
@ChristianHupfer :)
@PauloCereda we have 13°C but at least the sun is shining :)
 
@clemens ooh :)
 
@barbarabeeton awww it's so cute!
 
@PauloCereda -- who's grumpier, the cat or the bluebird?
 
@barbarabeeton The cat, surely. :)
 
1:16 PM
@barbarabeeton A Robin redbreast?
 
@ChristianHupfer -- nope, it's an "eastern bluebird". the same species as sung about in "the bluebird of happiness". (that's why the picture is so funny.)
 
@barbarabeeton ;-)
 
http://media.mnn.com/assets/images/2014/09/grumpy.jpg.653x0_q80_crop-smart.jpg
Photo credit: "Black Rain Frog" via Melbourneer.com
 
1:38 PM
@phell -- wow! it looks like its ancestors got caught in the kind of "black rain" that fell after the bombs were dropped on hiroshima and nagasaki. (a tragedy i wish had never happened and hope will never be repeated.)
 
@barbarabeeton You mean it looks like a mutation due to radioactivity?
 
@phell -- yes, although since it's from australia, it's almost certainly just one of the unique endemic species. the poor thing looks like it doesn't have a separate head. very different from north american frogs and toads.
 
I found this link: https://www.reddit.com/r/photoshopbattles/comments/2h5ye3/psbattle_black_rain_frog/
Maybe it was too strange to be true!
 
@barbarabeeton Frog trivia: the ribbit sound of frogs in virtually all movies is the very same stock sound from a particular species found somewhere in the US. And this species is the only that makes that sound! So all other variations are never really heard!
 
1:57 PM
@PauloCereda -- that's true. a few years ago we participated in a "frog watching" project, to determine how local frog populations were faring. (not too well, sadly.) since it's pretty hard to spot a frog for identification before it spots you and stops croaking, the identification method used was the calls. those are very distinct, and from a count (or estimate) of number of calls in half a minute, a pretty good estimate can be gained of how many frogs are in the area.
as for animal sounds in movies, eagles are usually represented with a piercing shriek. it's phony. eagle cries are much softer, and the cries of the young ones i've heard is a pitiable whimper (feed me! please!). i've been told that the cry heard in movies is from a red-tailed hawk.
@phell -- that does make sense! thanks for scouting it out.
 
2:11 PM
I got bibunits working with TeXstudio by changing bibtex.exe % to bibtex ?a*/*.aux
 
 
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3:56 PM
Still cold, 15C!
Winter has definitely arrived!
 
4:37 PM
@PauloCereda stop being a wimp: 15 = "pleasantly warm"
 
@DavidCarlisle Indeed: in Padstow welcoming the summer, no more than 15 C here
@DavidCarlisle Did you see the bug report re. luatex85: I'm not sure we have a particularly good fix (perhaps via the Lua interface?)
 
/me discovers JabRef
I think I will like this more than EndNote/Mendeley/Zotero.
 
@phell Sounds good to me
 
@JosephWright yes, was looking, using edef is possibly alright although I was trying to think of cases where it might do the wrong thing...
yes:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Indeed: Hans doesn't really suggest \edef is a good idea based on what he's put in the manual
 
4:44 PM
@JosephWright true although we already differ from what's in the manual (and I'm not sure he cares too much about expansion control anyway I think he'd say they made luatex so as not to have to worry about such arcane details )
 
@DavidCarlisle Perhaps, though ConTeXt still uses \protected a fair amount (as \unexpanded, of course)
@DavidCarlisle I'm more thinking Hans might change the expansion behaviour so \edef fails
 
@JosephWright althernatively we could just say that maintaining exact expansion steps isn't an aim, and make no change, but for the creation date, seeing as it's a constant it is probably safe
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, fair enough
 
@JosephWright not sure he could do that while keeping it expandable (which it would need to be to have any compatibility with pdftex)
 
@DavidCarlisle I have l3build to work on :-)
 
4:47 PM
@JosephWright the pdf checking?
@JosephWright I guess (since I messed up shellesc) that we should do a tools update before the tl2016 full release.
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes
@DavidCarlisle OK
@DavidCarlisle Have some biblatex stuff to do as well
 
@JosephWright good job there's no chemistry to do:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
@DavidCarlisle I wanted to get some lab work done but I've not been that well so it didn't come off :-(
 
 
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6:39 PM
@ChristianHupfer Perhaps you can suggest a better approach to programming that section command. The \UnitLabel is more complex, actually; it includes a \texorpdfstring command for hyperref, and there are similar constructions for \Week and \Class (this is for a syllabus) that have optional arguments for a \marginpar date line.
@ChristianHupfer So it seemed simplest to define the label separately and then use that in the actual sectioning and toc commands. But then there are are multiple nested commands that have to be expanded correctly.
 
@AndrewCashner Well, it's difficult to say from a short description, there are more ways, for sure, but from my experience with ToC related things the best way is to optimize for the special request. You could send me mail with some code and perhaps a sketch/screen shot what you have in mind.
 
yo'
Hello, @Andrew! How do you do? :)
 
@AndrewCashner: The xparse macros should be regarded as providers for wrappers that simplify document configuration by using opt. argument etc. but they shouldn't be written directly to ToC etc., unless robustness is really requested, say, if the command \foo should be called when the ToC is generated, doing some action.
 
7:08 PM
@ChristianHupfer Thanks, I don't know much about TOC yet. I just sent you an e-mail with a sample document; no worries if you don't have time.
@yo' Hello! I'm doing fine, reaching the end of the semester and planning for a summer term. (Thus I figured it was time to update my LaTeX syllabus class.) How are you?
 
@AndrewCashner I've received the mail. I'll look into as soon as possible, perhaps tonight (well, it's 9. p.m. already here ;-))
 
yo'
7:25 PM
@AndrewCashner busy but well :)
 
@yo' Are you editing now? Still working on tilings?
 
yo'
@AndrewCashner editing yes, now no, I'll be in half an hour after I hang my clothes :) Working on tilings, not really, I shifted a bit, and also I'm teaching lots, so I have only little time for research
 
@yo' Teaching at university?
 
yo'
@AndrewCashner yep, maths for chemistry students
 
7:39 PM
@yo' I had to leave my piano behind when I moved. Do I remember right that you have a Clavinova or something like it?
 
yo'
@AndrewCashner I've got a stage piano, but it's of similar quality to Clavinova considering action and sound. We've got some good Clavinova in my church. I think they have a very good quality:price ratio
 
@yo' For my office I got a simple MIDI controller; I use it with the free GrandOrgue organ/harpsichord simulator for class. But I can't decide what will be best for a home piano.
@yo' With stage piano you need amplifier and speakers, no?
 
yo'
8:03 PM
@AndrewCashner yeah, or PA speakers, as I do
@AndrewCashner ^^
 
@yo' very cool setup!
 
yo'
@AndrewCashner fine tuned over the years :) And one change to come: new headphones
However, if you want your life simple and smooth, go for Clavinova, not CP
 
@yo' Yes, my 2-year-old would love to climb your PA speakers and pull on all the cables.
 
yo'
@AndrewCashner :D Or hang on them, which would be much worse
 
@yo' A disturbing amount of parenting consists of envisioning dangerous scenarios your kids could be involved in.
 
8:14 PM
Regarding: https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/298859/centralized-master-bib-file-with-bibunits
I read that you can put * instead of space in path. I can't add this as a comment becuse I am too low on reputation.
 
yo'
@AndrewCashner just had my 10-months-old nephew on a visit today. We had to do some quick fixes to avoid disasters. (And also, I'm buying plug protectors)
 
@yo' Don't forget to make the kitchen safe and windows and door to balcony.
 
yo'
well, when he's next visiting me ... who know when it's gonna be :)
anyway, piano time, then typesetting time, then sleeping time. See you later!
 
@yo' Take care!
 
8:45 PM
@yo' Take care
 
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Yeah! :D
 
@ChristianHupfer Hee hee hee.
 
@phell I failed at 55555 and 66666 due to rep combination :D
 
9:04 PM
I finally figured out the absolute and relative paths. :)
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/307005/how-do-i-enter-full-path-and-path-extension-using-the-import-package/307534#307534
 
9:26 PM
@ChristianHupfer Should I reload the 222,222 picture? :)
 
@egreg If you feel happier then ... go ahead
 
@ChristianHupfer No, there's Cherubino singing “Non so più cosa son”: this makes me forget everything.
“Ogni donna cangiar di colore, ogni donna mi fa palpitar.” :)
 
yo'
@egreg should you give 250145 rep to me? Yes of course.
 
@egreg I love that aria so dearly!
 
@AndrewCashner “Cherubino alla vittoria!”
 
9:51 PM
@DavidCarlisle I appear to be having this problem tex.stackexchange.com/questions/50694/… but resulting from the file input loading when using the ltxtable package
Do you know how I can fix this?
 
yo'
Something true for typesetters too:
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A: Why is it that people are so surprised that graphics design can be hard?

TheGeorgeLBecause good design is 99% invisible. So because they don't see it, they don't notice how hard it actually is.

 
(or at least an issue that presents the same)
Right now I have the file as simple as ghostbin.com/paste/a8sbw and I'm just trying to use it with \LTXtable{\columnwidth}{vartable.tex} but I get ! Misplaced \noalign. \hline ->\noalign
@DavidCarlisle Here also is a MWE (or uh, not working) ghostbin.com/paste/usknd
or anyone else who knows, of course
 
10:11 PM
@GPhys If you have an MWE and a well-defined question you might as well post a question on the main site.
 
If you mean more well defined than "this isn't working", then no
it appears related to twocolumn :o
 
@GPhys You can't use longtable with twocolumn
 
well okay then
 

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