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user227867

9:19 AM

Buongiorno @egreg I have a very important question to ask you. I want a big bidirectional Italian-English dictionary to master the Italian language. The problem is that the 2010 Oxford Paravia Italian Dictionary is out of print and is selling for thousands of dollars! Others like the Collins Italian Dictionary have only half the number of entries. Do you have any recommendations for me? I want to buy a brand new copy at an affordable price.

user227867

@egreg So far I found the Ragazzini published by Zanichelli, but I am not sure if it can be used by English speakers trying to learn Italian. Please advise me! Grazie.

egreg

@WillHunting The most known in Italy are, as far as I know, Hazon-Garzanti and Sansoni. The latter is also available online at dizionari.corriere.it Also www.repubblica.it has an online dictionary. Whether they're good for learning Italian I don't know. But I remember Hazon as being good.

user227867

@egreg OK, just to confirm, they have Italian to English and also English to Italian entries?

egreg

@WillHunting Both ways

user227867

Anyway, thank you very much @egreg. You are a nice old man like @DavidCarlisle.

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David Carlisle

9:27 AM

@WillHunting he's much older than me

user227867

My favourite Italian movies are La Vita E Bella and Stanno Tutti Bene.

David Carlisle

@egreg you forgot to mention the awsome bidirectional accuracy of google translate in either direction

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Faultless

user227867

Sometimes, bidirectional sounds like it means bisexual, LOL.

egreg

@DavidCarlisle I have to go to the stadium, so I'm wearing the fancy hat

David Carlisle

9:30 AM

@egreg bless the students

user227867

I think Italian is the most beautiful language in the world. It is also the closest to Latin.

user227867

The more English I know, the more I think it sucks.

user227867

Unfortunately, English is the global language and not Italian.

user227867

I emailed Oxford to ask them to reprint the Oxford Paravia Italian Dictionary, but they have not replied.

manetsus

9:44 AM

After writing some subsubsection, I am trying to write a conclusion over all these subsubsections. But initiating a para with \par make it like a part of last subsubsection. How could I start a para so that it starts without any gap?

\\
\\
\noindent
served the purpose.

percusse

10:00 AM

@PauloCereda I think this is your thing :D I really enjoyed it

toggl.com/programming-princess

Johannes_B

10:17 AM

@StefanKottwitz Do you see a solution for non latin script for golatex? golatex.de/viewtopic,p,87300.html#87300

egreg

@DavidCarlisle In the name of Gauss, Cayley and Sylvester?

David Carlisle

@manetsus eek don't do that! If you find yourself using \\ out of tables/math alignments, or using \noindent then something is wrong.

@manetsus You shouldn't need \par either, as it's the same as a blank line.

@manetsus If you have no heading then it's not clear that you should suppress the indent but if you want that \noindent would work, but for the vertical space use something like <blank line> \bigskip never use \\ at the end of the paragraph which almost always makes tex warn about underful box with badness 10000 (which is as bad as it can be)

manetsus

11:04 AM

@DavidCarlisle Thanks. Bigskip works fine :)

egreg

@WillHunting You should also try "Divorzio all'italiana", "L'armata Brancaleone" and "La grande guerra"

David Carlisle

11:36 AM

@egreg o basta chiedere a me, il mio italiano è perfetto

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Once in a while Google Translate doesn't err.

David Carlisle

@egreg so an accurate translation of a true statement, excellent.

egreg

@DavidCarlisle This seems to be going into self-reference problems

sgmoye

I'm having a problem with unicode-math.sty and the \not macro -- unicode-math.sty simply outputs a '6' instead of doing what \not should do. I finally found a reference to that yesterday on SE, but now I can't find it. As well, I notice that unicode-math.sty hasn't been updated in over a year. Anyone know what its status is at present?

David Carlisle

@sgmoye yes there were some issues with \not I'll see if I can find. unicode-math is still maintained but Will has had a few other things this year (new baby, and new job for example:-) so an update is a bit delayed.

@sgmoye github.com/wspr/unicode-math/issues/363

@egreg io non mento mai

egreg

11:46 AM

@DavidCarlisle Especially when you do

David Carlisle

@egreg quite so

Paulo Cereda

@percusse OMG <3

user227867

@PauloCereda Quack!

sgmoye

@DavidCarlisle Thanks for the info. I had seen mention of his busy life, but just wanted to check the status.

Paulo Cereda

@WillHunting Hi Jasper! Quack!

Joseph Wright

11:58 AM

Should we do a merge on

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Q: Are there alternatives to Beamer for slides ?

I like Beamer and I use it but I wanted to check if there other classes for slides or presentation purposes to consider seriously when starting to write a presentation.

21

Q: Which alternatives to the beamer class exist?

The title is pretty much self-explanatory. Do you know any LaTeX based beamer alternative? In my university, everyone is using beamer, and every presentation has the same layout, I'm sick of it. I was even wondering to create the individual slides in inkscape and merging them afterwards...

beamer presentations

Both have good answers

egreg

@JosephWright It seems a good idea

PomeGranate

hey how can I write this simple thing?

$75<

Joseph Wright

@PomeGranate ?

PomeGranate

I want to write this text

I tried: ($75<

but then the $ disapears

Joseph Wright

@PomeGranate Are you looking for \$?

PomeGranate

12:09 PM

($75<

with backshlash

Joseph Wright

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A: Escape character in LaTeX

The following ten characters have special meanings in (La)TeX: & % $ # _ { } ~ ^ \ Outside \verb, the first seven of them can be typeset by prepending a backslash; for the other three, use the macros \textasciitilde, \textasciicircum, and \textbackslash. \documentclass{article} \begin{doc...

Excellent work by @werner:

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Q: My table doesn't fit; what are my options?

I have a table that I want to insert on a page, but at least one of the following conditions are met: The table is too wide to fit within the text block or page. That is, I'm exceeding some horizontal restriction. The table is too tall to fit within the text block or page. That is, I'm exceedin...

tables page-breaking width height

PomeGranate

Undefined control sequence.
<inserted text> ...0‘000 – 100‘000 & \$75 \<

it doesn't want

Joseph Wright

@PomeGranate \$ is a basic control sequence and unlikely not to be defined: we'll need a full example

PomeGranate

what the hell haha

Torbjørn T.

@PomeGranate \$75<.

PomeGranate

12:12 PM

ok ill try

Joseph Wright

@PomeGranate BTW, the line breaking in messages is important: paste them as a message on there own and mark as code

PomeGranate

\$75< this worked

Stefan Kottwitz

@JosephWright Which area would you recommend to stay, for the UK TUG meeting? To reach the place easily. Looking for a hotel.

Near Paddington? Near another station? Near Oxford.. ?

Joseph Wright

@StefanKottwitz If you want inexpensive, the Pear Tree roundabout has two hotels (Holiday Inn and Travelodge), and is next to the park-and-ride for the city centre

@StefanKottwitz Ah, didn't think about travel

@StefanKottwitz The venue we have is about 30 mins walk from Oxford station

@StefanKottwitz @DavidCarlisle is based in Oxford ...

Stefan Kottwitz

@JosephWright I wonder whether to choose Oxford or London for a hotel

as it seems it's easy by train, still 1 hour or so

yo'

12:19 PM

When a theorem is ~~the first thing~~ in a list, ... God kills a kitten. (Re: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/332293/… )

David Carlisle

@StefanKottwitz or perhaps even easier by bus (there is a bus every 10 minutes or so all day)

Stefan Kottwitz

@DavidCarlisle which line? (and Ticket paid in the bus?)

barbara beeton

@JosephWright -- added to "often referenced questions".

David Carlisle

@StefanKottwitz no idea about how to pay these days (I tend to avoid london:-) (you used to be able to pay on the bus, hang on let me find a link)

yo'

@barbarabeeton I'm still missing one option: shorthands, especially for column names. I'll comment.

David Carlisle

12:33 PM

@StefanKottwitz from the city oxfordtube.com or from heathrow/gatwick airline.oxfordbus.co.uk

Stefan Kottwitz

@DavidCarlisle The Victoria Oxford hotel has a reasonable price

£ 72,00 (business rate) and not too far away it seems

barbara beeton

@yo' -- another possibility i've seen used (if only width is a problem): diagonal column headings. i'll add another comment.

yo'

@barbarabeeton something I would use as a last resort. I'd pretty much prefer shorthands or symbols.

barbara beeton

@yo' -- agreed it's a last resort. comment edited. by the way, if symbols or abbreviations are used, a key should be provided. footnotes to table? or text following table caption?

David Carlisle

@StefanKottwitz that's probably OK (I don't know it) it looks like a traditional small hotel, the travelodge Joseph mentioned is a pound or two cheaper but it is what it is, a travel lodge on a city-edge car park, could be anywhere:-) travelodge.co.uk/hotels/60/Oxford-Peartree-hotel (this is just round the block from where my office is)

yo'

12:44 PM

@barbarabeeton me sclerotic (or whatever you call a person who keeps forgetting in English), I couldn't edit so I deleted and reposted.

barbara beeton

@yo' -- you're not alone -- i've forgotten that word too.

yo'

@barbarabeeton :D

^^ Where's that linguistic bloke whose name I can't recall just when you need him? :D

^^ @AlanMunn

Paulo Cereda

@yo' @DavidCarlisle <<

yo'

@PauloCereda he's an Englishman, can't be profound in English.

Paulo Cereda

@yo' LOL

David Carlisle

12:49 PM

@PauloCereda oh calar a boca

barbara beeton

@yo' -- re putting key in caption, people tend to forget that it's possible to just put ordinary text into a table (or figure) float. that approach is necessary when working with a document class that insists on putting the whole caption into a list of whatevers (like the ams classes), and actually, using a \parbox or minipage gives much better control.

Paulo Cereda

For He Is An Englishman - HMS Pinafore

►

yo'

@barbarabeeton in that case, I go with this:

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle I got the message, but the sentence is slightly wrong. :)

David Carlisle

1 hour ago, by egreg

@DavidCarlisle Once in a while Google Translate doesn't err.

yo'

12:50 PM

...
Last & 10 & 20 & 30 \\\bottomrule
\multicolumn{4}{l}{\footnotesize ($\dagger$) Geometric mean.} \\
\multicolumn{4}{l}{\footnotesize (*) Arithmetic mean.}
\end{tabular}

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Cale sua boca

yo'

@barbara ^^ (the fact that the table is too wide so that shorthands are needed means there's plenty of horizontal room in the table itself)

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Exactly, once in a while

barbara beeton

@yo' -- that's good too, as long as none of the footnotes aren't longer than one line; that fouls up the baselines.

@yo' -- oh, i really prefer the (slightly misplaced) pointer to @egreg's comment.

yo'

@barbarabeeton in that case, tabularx or manual breaks

@barbarabeeton yeah; why is everybody talking at the same time?! :-) (and sorry for this, wasn't meant that way)

barbara beeton

12:55 PM

@yo' -- oh, don't be sorry! i knew what you were referring to, and i think the misinterpretation is kind of funny.

yo'

@barbarabeeton well, as long as no true offense is made!

anyway, time to go do something. see you later!

Johannes_B

1:22 PM

@JosephWright Should the following question be closed? It is just a missing closing brace. If not, what would be the right tags for that question? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/332117/i-was-expecting-a-or-a

Joseph Wright

@Johannes_B It's always a borderline thing: since the Powers got rid of TL it's not been that comfortable to close this type of question. I'm happy to get them off the unanswered list either way.

Johannes_B

@JosephWright It is off the list. :-) So a retag? What is appropriate?

Joseph Wright

@Johannes_B bibtex, bibliographies, errors?

Johannes_B

I had a script that allowed me to control chat with the keyboard. What was it called? Does anybody know?

@JosephWright Ok.

Torbjørn T.

@Johannes_B Possibly braces, in addition to those three.

PomeGranate

1:31 PM

! Package inputenc Error: Unicode char 👱 (U+1F471)

ey yo, how can I paste emojis?

Joseph Wright

@PomeGranate Not that surprising!

@PomeGranate You'll need a font that supplies the glyphs

@PomeGranate For pdfTeX, you'll want newunicodechar: see e.g. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/307680/…

PomeGranate

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}

\usepackage[verbose]{newunicodechar}
\newunicodechar{§}{\ifhmode\unskip\,\fi\S K}

do I have to use those packages?

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