@yo' -- well deserved, i think. congratulations!

@barbarabeeton thanks!

@DavidCarlisle Planning to do an expl3 release: we've got a few things collected up

@DavidCarlisle Also l3build for LuaTeX v1 (I think there's nothing else to normalise)

@JosephWright sounds good

@JosephWright Changes in xparse?

@egreg No

@yo' Yay! Congrats, pal! <3

@JosephWright Deprecated functions?

@egreg Not at present, no: there are various fixes in expl3 that should go to CTAN

@egreg Probably some doc improvements and perhaps a new k-type implementation, but that will be the next update

@egreg Team feeling is we have most things either right or at least stable, so should document 'preferred' approach to new commands (basically s O{} m)

@DavidCarlisle Speaking of team list, should we reply again to the jTeX business?

@JosephWright And o

@egreg Yes, depending on nature of argument (I wondered about o/O, but I think we have it right)

@JosephWright The alternative can be o (no brace) and o{...}, but this would be confusing.

@egreg That's what we used to have :) I toyed with saying you had to explicitly say \NoValue but I don't think it works

@egreg There's a reason we ended up with what we have now

@JosephWright Of course. It just takes a bit of practice and a table of the main options.

@JosephWright yes probably

@egreg, @DavidCarlisle Think I have a plan on 'key' type arguments

@PauloCereda thanks!

Hopefully an easy question. With \printbibliography[keyword=foo] from biblatex is there a macro that holds the value foo?

@egreg I got the tick and a knighthood, both well deserved I'm sure you'd agree.

@DavidCarlisle ooh

Ni!

Morning

hi

I've been writing quizzes in emacs orgmode and exporting to pdf. It's really quite nice.

I barely have to write any latex at all.

Which is good, because I can only tweak it. If someone asked me to create one from scratch with no help, I'd be totally stumped...

@AaronHall The basic Wikibooks tutorial is quite good, and how I got my start. As far as I know the only issues in it are in the float section.

@Canageek evening

@PauloCereda quack

@AaronHall hi

Hi!

@DavidCarlisle <3

Anyone know how to do red, italic, and strikethrough at the same time?

\usepackage{ulem}
\usepackage{color}
...blah blah...
\textcolor{red}{\sout{\emph{my text}}}

^ That does three strikethroughs of red text instead of italics.

Swapping \emph and \sout results in single strikethrough, underlined, not italicized text.

@DanielSank good job @egreg isn't here, he would weep at the thought of it:-)

@DavidCarlisle ?

What is weepworthy here?

@DavidCarlisle /me weeping

^ But why?

@egreg I know you too well:-)

@DanielSank `

@DanielSank typographic good practice usually suggest a certain amount of restraint in visual styles and using any of those might be considered a lot, two somewhat brave and three, ....

@DanielSank \usepackage[normalem]{ulem}

@DavidCarlisle Yes well, I'm responding to redline proofs for a journal article. This is not a matter of aesthetics, it's a matter of logical necessity.

A bit of italicized text was changed to not italics. Changes are indicated by turning the text red and putting a strikethrough.

@DanielSank but anyway don't worry about comments here, unlike the main site there is a general level of irreverence here:-) @egreg's suggestion should make your original version work I think.

@egreg the [normalem] option did the trick.

Interesting.

@DavidCarlisle Sure, that said, do note that not everyone who asks to do something funky is doing it for a dumb reason :)

@DavidCarlisle And irrelevance too

^ LOL

@egreg and ducks. :)

<-- and octopuses

ooh

@DanielSank sure I was about to debug your original version (which I thought should have worked because I'd forgotten about the normlem stuff) the egreg snipe was just a time filler

@PauloCereda Too many animals and too few squares

@DavidCarlisle so @egreg's hint was useful? :)

@egreg The power of abstraction. :)

@PauloCereda strange things happen if you wait long enough

@DavidCarlisle And you are a knight. :)

@egreg But octopuses are obviously the best.

Can anyone help me with chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/32988908#32988908 . I want to know if \printbibliography[keyword=foo] saves the keyword anywhere.

@StrongBad \tracingall\printbibliography[keyword=foo] makes a lot of output but....

\setkeys #1#2->\def \KV@prefix {KV@#1@}\let \@tempc \relax \KV@do #2,\relax ,
#1<-blx@bib2
#2<-keyword=foo
{\def}
{changing \KV@prefix=macro:->KV@blx@bib1@}
{into \KV@prefix=macro:->KV@blx@bib2@}
{\let}
{changing \@tempc=\long macro:#1->}
{into \@tempc=\relax}

@StrongBad searching for foo shows ^^^^ which means it's just using the original keyval so \KV@blx@bib2@keyword is probably foo

Or rather \KV@blx@bib2@keyword is the handler for keyword so \KV@blx@bib2@keyword {foo} got executed and saves foo or not depending on what that does,

@StrongBad ^^

@DavidCarlisle that is helpful. I had been looking for KV@blx@bib1...

> \KV@blx@bib2@keyword=\long macro:
#1->\blx@key@keyword {#1}.

@StrongBad ^^

@DavidCarlisle that is far enough. I am sticking with my hack of patching redefining the handler with \define@key...

@StrongBad sounds like a plan

@DavidCarlisle I am sure someone will do it proper and steal the bounty.

@StrongBad now you've mentioned stealing rep @egreg is sure to answer, that's a specialty of his. (I just wrote keyval, so know nothing:-)

@DavidCarlisle Is all this jelousy becaus @egreg has the 1st place? ahahahaha

@GuilhermeZ.Santos How dare you accuse sir Carlisle of Oxfordshire of jelousy?

@GuilhermeZ.Santos if you only count rep earned rather than awarded by flocks of adoring ducks then I doubt he'd even get on the first page!

@PauloCereda Oh please excuse me. I had no idea he was knighted!

@GuilhermeZ.Santos no worries, it happened today. :)

@DavidCarlisle Quack

@GuilhermeZ.Santos must be true, I read it on the internet

@DavidCarlisle Not to defend @egreg, but Sir Carlisle the duck flocks seems to give votes (and bounties) to your exellence as well. What say you?

@DavidCarlisle Respectfull man!

@DavidCarlisle ooh he's good. ^^

@GuilhermeZ.Santos mine are well deserved of course

@DavidCarlisle of course, most definitely... ;D

@PauloCereda reminds you of something?? ^^^^

@GuilhermeZ.Santos ooh

could anyone on a real operating system try my answer here (I wonder if the new biblatex broke it) I can't test at present (see comments under the answer:-)

Working fine on Windows 10 with TL 2015 (don't know if this is a real OS though)

@DavidCarlisle seems to be broken. Now you probably want the log file

Linux TL 2016

and we have a fire in the building...

@GuilhermeZ.Santos im on windows but in denial so I only have cygwin builds of everything, its supposed to work (it does for the person who compiles texlive for cygwin) but biber hangs for me and currently it needs a bleading edge perl and I decided to wait rather than try to build perl and texlive from source

@StrongBad oops, hope that's OK

@StrongBad please leave the computer then! o.O

Run Forest, run!

@DavidCarlisle I work in a hospital near the psych wing. Looks like a patient set their room on fire.

@DavidCarlisle do you want the logs from the compilation? or can I delete everything?

@GuilhermeZ.Santos no thanks, if it works, the logs are not so much use, just if it fails, but thanks for testing

@DavidCarlisle it runs for me (Linux TL 2016) once I copy the entire MWE of your answer.

pdf180 : one of those little gems lurking in the TeX binaries directory.

@PauloCereda Heroic game. In other news, I got chickenpox.

@DavidCarlisle On a real OS it works.

@egreg and also osX?

@AlanMunn ah one of the pdfjam scripts, didn't recognise the name

@DavidCarlisle That was the real OS.

@egreg stop telling jokes

@PauloCereda abnt alert...

@DavidCarlisle It's linguex, blame @AlanMunn

@egreg yes just found it as you were commenting:-) My initial though was also to allocate blame in that way. Mind you if you load half of ctan into the document, something is bound to be incompatible with something

@egreg \protected\def_ ?

@DavidCarlisle That might do.

@DavidCarlisle jTeX ;-)

@JosephWright I'm sure there is a vast audience for Japanese language documents conforming to Brazilian typesetting standards.

@DavidCarlisle This time abntex2 is not responsible of bad decisions made by linguists.

@DavidCarlisle And probably linguex doesn't work with jTeX to begin with.

@JosephWright platex has \protected

platex
This is e-pTeX, Version 3.14159265-p3.7-160201-2.6 (utf8.euc) (TeX Live 2016) (preloaded format=platex)
 restricted \write18 enabled.
**\show\protected
entering extended mode
pLaTeX2e <2016/09/08> (based on LaTeX2e <2016/03/31> patch level 3)
Babel <3.9r> and hyphenation patterns for 83 language(s) loaded.
> \protected=\protected.

@egreg jtex does not and akira's w32tex distrib still has that and we got a message of concern about the draft ltnews in svn

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{gb4e}

{ % Temporarily change catcodes
  \catcode`\_=\active
  \catcode`\^=\active
   \makeatletter

  \global\def\automath{%
    \catcode`\_=\active
    \catcode`\^=\active
    \protected\def_##1{\gb@ifnextchar^{\automath@two_{##1}}{\ensuremath{\sb{##1}}}}%
    \protected\def^##1{\gb@ifnextchar_{\automath@two^{##1}}{\ensuremath{\sp{##1}}}}}
}


\automath
\begin{document}

\errorcontextlines10000
a_b

\input{monog_pretextuais.tex}
\end{document}

@egreg simplified MWE with no brazillian content:-)

@AlanMunn tex.stackexchange.com/q/334705/1090

@egreg Who are not responsible for bad decisions made by DEK. :)

@egreg There. I said it.

@AlanMunn is gb4e actively maintained, any chance of getting the above change in?

@DavidCarlisle Easier ;-)

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{gb4e}
\usepackage{regexpatch}

\begingroup
% Temporarily change catcodes
\catcode`\_=\active
\catcode`\^=\active
\makeatletter
\xpatchcmd*{\automath}{\def}{\protected\def}{}{}
\global\let\automath\automath
\endgroup

\automath
\begin{document}

@DavidCarlisle Yes, I'll see whether I can nudge him. I sent him also a change to deal with the same issue more or less that arises with the newer biblatex but I don't think it's been implemented.

@DavidCarlisle He and I have talked about releasing a new version completely, but there's so many people who are using it that backwards compatibility is a real issue.

@egreg should we count additional lines of code executed? (and that version couldn't be proposed as a diff to the package maintainer)

@DavidCarlisle That's Petr's argument

@egreg That's why all my documents look like xii.tex (and his)

@JosephWright speaking of jtex, you or me sending a message suggesting \countdef\eTeXversion=0 or some such in a jlatex.ini ?

@DavidCarlisle Also, gb4e and linguex are separate packages with different maintainers; what they both share is cgloss4e which are macros for interlinear text in examples.

@AlanMunn @DavidCarlisle tex.stackexchange.com/questions/321119/capacity-exceeded-error

@egreg :-)

@DavidCarlisle @egreg Yes, that's the fix I emailed Alexis (the gb4e maintainer) about. Another undeserved tick. :)

@AlanMunn but there the suggestion was for the end user not to use \automath rather than changing the package? Oh b@@@g@r I see I proposed the fix in the unticked answer lower down. Typical!

@DavidCarlisle Yes, exactly!

Anybody remembering the address of the historic CTAN archive?

Never mind, I found it