TeX, LaTeX and Friends

12:00 AM

@AlanMunn I agree that we should not. I agree it is not appropriate. I just think it is an understandable reaction. At least, it would be if it weren't for the fact that the question was perfectly fine by the time somebody voted to close it.

Alan Munn

@cfr And in fact at no point did it ever meet the 'too broad' criteria.

Paulo Cereda

Quack!

cfr

@AlanMunn I know. My comment was not intended seriously. How could anybody reading that question and my comment think I was serious? Even if you took my comment literally, it would at most mean that one part of the question was too broad (or whatever). It wouldn't mean anything at all about the rest of the question.

Faheem Mitha

@AlanMunn Upvoted your meta post. Well said.

cfr

@PauloCereda Cwac!

Alan Munn

12:08 AM

@cfr Right. Can you add your reopen vote too.

Paulo Cereda

@cfr Hi! Miss you! :)

cfr

@AlanMunn No. It won't let me vote to reopen twice.

@PauloCereda I hate end-of-semester nest-building.

Paulo Cereda

@cfr oh

Alan Munn

@cfr Oh, sorry, I hadn't reloaded the page, so I though I was the only close vote. It's now open again. Thanks.

cfr

@AlanMunn Good.

@AlanMunn I hope you don't mean that.

Paulo Cereda

12:11 AM

Why does the OP have to censor foiling? :)

Alan Munn

@cfr Mean what?

@cfr Doh. Yes, only reopen vote...

cfr

@AlanMunn I was about to answer your question ;).

Paulo Cereda

@Alan: I like your dog. :)

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda Thanks :) I think the 'hats' that go in the middle of the avatar are much better than ones that perch on top.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn :)

@Alan: speaking of hats, did you see Mico's?

cfr

12:19 AM

Why do I have to convert my electronic student records into triplicate paper copies plus summaries plus..., some of which go to some poor sod who has to enter my marks and other details into a database so they've got them in electronic format? And then somebody else has to enter everything a second time if the students fall into certain categories? The number of bits of paper per student is completely insane.

Paulo Cereda

@cfr Oh no!

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda Shaken, not stirred.

cfr

@PauloCereda Na chwac.

Paulo Cereda

12 hours ago, by Paulo Cereda

12 hours ago, by Paulo Cereda

It doesn't look like Thor at all, it is more like one of those fat ladies singing operas. :)

Alan Munn

@cfr Crazy. Is this marks for a course? Ours are all electronic, and in fact I can upload a CSV file to the system to enter final marks.

Paulo Cereda

12:22 AM

@cfr A lot of trees will suffer. :(

cfr

12:43 AM

@AlanMunn Yes. One module is 'electronic' but that only means for the moderator. The university still wants everything in multiple copies on paper. The other one is all paper. Copies of work, feedback, course materials, triplicate module feedback and assignment feedback, assessment record & my module evaluation (only duplicate), register (duplicate but wants an additional photocopy). Etc. Worse still, I've created an electroonic workflow so I ditch most of the paper I'm sent and print it all...

Alan Munn

@cfr Wow. I think I would go mad with such a system.

cfr

I got fed up entering student details on different forms in different formats. Now I enter their details once into a spreadsheet and print everything off. It is completely and utterly insane. And, naturally, there is enormous room for human error at every point.

@PauloCereda Yes. Not just the trees, either.

I have one form I haven't managed to turn into part of my spreadsheet or a LaTeX template (to merge data exported from the spreadsheet). I'm told that is only available in PDF format. They claim not to have a Word version.

@AlanMunn I do. You know those printers which took paper with holes on each side? Our forms are printed in triplicate carbon on one of those. We are supposed to fill them all out by hand. And then they take it all back and enter half of it electronically. Except that I staple yet more bits of paper to the forms and scrawl 'Attached' on the original and just sign it. Or I shred the forms I can get away with shredding and just print. But they still keep sending them to me.

Alan Munn

@cfr Simply amazing.

cfr

It is completely bonkers. It literally feels like building a nest. If other people are doing the same thing at the same time we have everything spread out on tables and everyone is just surrounded by the stuff. I've never worked anywhere with this much paper.

@AlanMunn Uploading a .csv... that sounds like the way things used to be before I worked here!

Alan Munn

1:40 AM

@FaheemMitha 'at best' vs. 'at worst' is an interesting contrast, but it does in fact need to be 'at best'. :)

Oxinabox

5:23 AM

Has anyone tried the version of algorithm2e that came out this year (v5.1).
I just spent several hours debugging strange error messages, only to have to roll back to version 5.0 which came out several years ago.

percusse

7:46 AM

Read the comments :) It's sad and hilarious at the same time

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