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12:12 AM
@MartinScharrer kindacurvythingyinthesideoftherectanglethingy is also a good option. :)
 
1:03 AM
Hello?
 
 
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2:43 AM
@AlanMunn Hello.
 
 
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10:53 AM
@egreg On the 'editing the thesis' point you've raised in today's chemistry question, : we've had this discussion before :-)
In my experience as a chemist, it's quite common for proof-readers/supervisors to have the drafts as Word files, and to make their suggestions as edits or comments. I make comments for anything substantial, but would edit for say a typo (with 'Track Changes' on). As most chemists use Word, that's what they know and are comfortable with.
 
@JosephWright Which is wrong anyway. The thesis is the student's, and nobody should be allowed to touch it if the owner is not present.
 
Structure for at least some of a thesis may well be based on published papers in any case, and the 'boss' will have edited those pretty hard
@egreg I said suggestions: if they take them up or not is up to them. It's the same thing you'd do with a paper copy: mark things you feel need to be altered.
Almost certainly the Word file you get is not actually used by the student, as they'll have edited their version by the time you've read it
 
@JosephWright Well, my experience says they're not suggestions, but abrupt changes.
 
My current boss likes to make his suggestions at the screen with the student present, which I guess you approve of
 
@JosephWright The same I do. Either the student is present or the changes are marked on the printed copy (or PDF) as suggestions.
 
10:58 AM
@egreg A lot of them will be typos/punctuation or 'this needs rewording, for example ...' from me
@egreg Different people ask for different things, in my experience. Some people much prefer it if I send back a Word file, even though I will print it off and mark up by hand first
 
@JosephWright Yes; but the final responsibility is the student's. If the thesis is bad, it's not the advisor's fault.
 
@egreg That's not necessarily how it pans out: depending on institution, the student may need the supervisors permission to submit
 
@JosephWright This is not an excuse for the supervisor editing the copy to his/her own taste. ;-)
 
@egreg No, very true
What I know is that my boss (and previous ones) gets very annoyed if I try to send him anything other than a Word file. That's the reality. (OK, I'm not a student so it's different, but even so ...)
 
11:16 AM
hi guys, long time no see
 
@MarioS.E. Hello
 
11:32 AM
@JosephWright I was looking at the discussion you were having with @egreg. I understand both of your viewpoints. From one side, I personally belive no one should alter your work but you, but at the same time I do understand the necesity of "cooperation" and quick feedback from your supervisors
 
12:16 PM
@MarioS.E. It comes down at least in part to what people are used to. You certainly do need not only proof-reading but also more 'broad' comments whenever you write something. It's a question of how they are fed back. In chemistry, almost everyone uses Word and so there are lots of people who simply don't work any other way: comments are 'track changes' in Word.
I also see the 'it is the student's work' point: particularly with non-native speakers, that can be a real challenge
 
@JosephWright If there is a requirement for the superviosr's permission, can you override it in the most weird cases? (Out of curiosity). In NL for example, you need an form signed by the supervisor but if you really push you can take out the mandatory sentence, This thesis is found defendable by Prof... (rough translation) and carry on. You will probably fail the defense though :) because supervisors don't make a big fuss about these anyway so there must be a significant problem..
 
@percusse Almost certainly you can: for my own PhD this wasn't required so I have direct experience
 
@JosephWright Ah, so it's the typical kind of an obligation that is avoided informally then.
 
 
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1:43 PM
hello
anybody in the house?
need some beginner-level help
am making v slow (if but steady) progress on learning and applying mdframed,
and am currently learning about how new environments are defined
am trying to fully understand Sean's answer here tex.stackexchange.com/a/118588/27721
in particular how this \color{green!50!black} is an optional or mandatory argument and how it is "embedded"
must be really trivial...
 
@AlanMunn Hello.
 
the exclamation marks seem to tell TeX that you really really mean it
 
@nuttyaboutnatty apparently not:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle or waking up from a snooze?
 
@nuttyaboutnatty ?? !! is just text.
 
1:47 PM
so am reading the mdframed doc up and down, abusing google, and am left to wonder
@DavidCarlisle here: \color{green!50!black} in tex.stackexchange.com/a/118588/27721 ?
 
@nuttyaboutnatty or do you mean green!80!black which is xcolor package
 
Ack from São Paulo. :)
14C in here, it's cold. :)
 
or \begin{infobox}[green!80!black]{\textcolor{white}{Personal Data}}
 
@nuttyaboutnatty read texdoc xcolor that is xcolor package color mixing syntax
@PauloCereda s/cold/warm summer temperature/
 
where I think { } signifies the mandatory part, [ ] the optional part
 
1:49 PM
@DavidCarlisle No way. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle great, I'll have a look
 
@nuttyaboutnatty yes that's just standard latex syntax
@PauloCereda you're going to get a shock if you ever visit Northern Europe
 
@Nicola: I'm traveling today, but my dad poked me via smartphone that a package came in the mail today. I asked what the package looked like, and he said it was something written in a foreign language. I suspect your book has arrived! :) I'll confirm it later on tonight. :)
@DavidCarlisle I want to go and of course make you sign my TeXbook. :)
Why do I have the feeling you have a stamp written "Will sign this book for $5." so you will use it when I give you the book? :)
 
@DavidCarlisle that lift's some confusion, thx!
:-)
 
@PauloCereda I could sign it esc :wq
3
 
1:53 PM
@DavidCarlisle LOL
 
@PauloCereda did I get that right (I had a feeling there was supposed to be a ! in there too)
 
@DavidCarlisle ! has no use if you go with w first, which writes the changes. :) You discard changes only with q! :)
 
@PauloCereda There is no possibility of changes, I never figured out how to get into insert mode or whatever it's called
 
@DavidCarlisle LOL
 
@PauloCereda you think I'm joking??
 
1:57 PM
@DavidCarlisle Nope. :) I'm thinking of myself using emacs and hitting esc like there's no tomorrow. :)
In Europe, I can get a lot of autographs in the TeXbook. We could even make a contest here in TeX.sx and give the winner this book. :)
Why do I suspect @percusse will try to sell it on eBay? :P
 
2:11 PM
@PauloCereda You are probably nearer to D. Knuth than I am, you should get that signature first.
 
@DavidCarlisle He will probably force me to recite all volumes of TAOCP backwards first. :)
 
2:25 PM
@PauloCereda Have you installed TL 2013?
 
@TorbjørnT. Yes. :)
Both for Linux and Mac. :)
^^ ouch this sentence looks wrong.
 
@PauloCereda Could you do me a small favour, and compile this code with lualatex.
 
again referring to my question here tex.stackexchange.com/questions/118565/…, which \documentclass to choose? article?
 
@TorbjørnT. Oh sadly I cannot do it now, I'm on my netbook now (I'm in São Paulo) and I had no TL in here. :( But I promise to try the code when back home.
 
I don't need "Section 2.3" etc for my CV
it's current idea is to have "boxes" instead (using mdframed)
is article the general catch-all / multi-purpose documentclass?
 
2:30 PM
@PauloCereda No worries. I was just wondering if anyone else get the same result as me (one acronym in small caps, the other in normal letters).
 
@TorbjørnT. I'll take a look later on tonight and report back. :)
 
@PauloCereda Thanks.
 
worth posting a separate formal question on this (which documentclass to use here?
 
2:48 PM
@TorbjørnT. I get the first instance lower case and the second small caps. TL 2013 on Mac.
It works as expected with XeLaTeX.
 
@AlanMunn Thanks. Not just my computer then.
@AlanMunn Not surprising. As mentioned yesterday, it also worked if I switch to article, or if I removed microtype.
 
@TorbjørnT. And this is independent of the glsreset command.
 
@AlanMunn Yes I know, not sure why I included that.
 
@nuttyaboutnatty No. As you don't make much use of the document class, keep it simple with article or scrlttr2
 
@mafp great! I'll stick to article then...
 
3:21 PM
@nuttyaboutnatty more or less, yes
 
0
Q: References in .bib file but not the bbl file

Joe KingI am trying to create a bibliography, using natbib, but only one of the references can be cited in my tex file - the others appear as ? in the tex and not at all in the References section. Here is the bib file @misc{Bates2013, author = {Bates, Douglas and Maechler, Martin and Bolker, Ben}, ...

A dupe of one we've had before, but which one? Anyone know the 'definite' LaTeX-BibTeX-LaTeX-LaTeX question?
(Not in meta.tex.stackexchange.com/a/2428/73: should add it I think)
It was there, after all!
 
@JosephWright Glad we could help:-)
 
Perhaps I should make it 'featured'
 
4:00 PM
@JosephWright Do you have a sense of what the main reasons would be in our existing closed questions? We kind of got focused on the TL issue, but maybe there are other closing reasons we should be considering. For example, bug reports don't seem to be that common, and might not need a prestated reason.
 
@JosephWright Perhaps, although I must admit I can't really get too excited about it one way or another. I've been active on the site for 18 months now and I still can't really see the point in closing in most cases.
 
@AlanMunn We may not need any custom reasons: my feeling is though that the generic 'it's off-topic' one that resulted from my last question was not really the right way to go.
@DavidCarlisle Also fair: it's much more important for SO than any of the other sites. I think 'tidying up' questions which we can't answer (for example typos) is sensible, but as I've indicated things like package-update-required would be OK
 
... I think I just don't buy the "stack exchange is so much better than..." arguments that prefixed the description of closing in those meta threads. It's not that different than c.t.t except with a newer interface and better search (but closing doesn't really seem to affect search as much as one might expect)
 
@DavidCarlisle The idea that we don't repeat the same thing over-and-over is I'd say not such a bad one
(Or at least we try not to)
@DavidCarlisle Closing I think helps with searches, esp. from Google
 
@JosephWright but if it takes 10 lines of explanation of why the question is closed and searching to find the duplicate and adding the links, is it really so much better than just saying "put label after caption" for the 10000th time?
 
4:09 PM
@DavidCarlisle I think you underestimate the ability to edit and update answers. (In addition to the repetition issue.)
 
@DavidCarlisle True, but for longer answers (for example a detailed explanation of why you have to have the label after the caption) it's not quite the same
@AlanMunn Also true
@AlanMunn The wiki-like element is good for longer more detailed points, certainly
Remember I've been on the site from day one :-)
 
@JosephWright but typically they are not the ones closed as off topic
 
@DavidCarlisle No, true. The changes to closing reasons were driven by the needs of SO, not us :-)
 
4:22 PM
grumbles
They fixed the xfrac/microtype problems
 
@Canageek :-)
 
@JosephWright I thought I had a good entry for the longest compile time contest.
@JosephWright I even went and made a version of blindtype using all \xfrac instead of \frac....
 
need help (again...)
regarding PSTricks in LuaLaTeX
yielding errors...
the LOG file (via Texmaker): paste.ubuntu.com/5840837
the MWE:
the (corrected) MWE:
\documentclass{article}

\usepackage[RGB]{xcolor}
\definecolor{aaa}{RGB}{0,111,222}

\usepackage[framemethod=PSTricks]{mdframed}

\global\mdfdefinestyle{my_style_CV}{%
linecolor=aaa,linewidth=1pt,%
frametitlebackgroundcolor=aaa}

\mdfsetup{skipabove=\topskip,skipbelow=\topskip}

\begin{document}

\begin{mdframed}[style=my_style_CV,frametitle=\color{white}{Inhomogeneous linear}]
%\ExampleText
\end{mdframed}


\end{document}
 
My guide to using `PSTricks` and `pgfplot`
Step 1) Look at manuals
Step 2) Look at code examples
Step 3) Run screaming from the room as your eyes weep tears of blood
 
I've used pgfplots in the past without many tears
but for what I'm trying to achieve with mdframed, pstricks seems to deliver cleaner results (via xelatex)
but I need pstricks to work with lualatex
100 gummi points for whoever can "take the error-msg's" away ... !
worth formalizing the question?
 
4:41 PM
@nuttyaboutnatty I have no idea, I don't know anything about them
 
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Q: <recently read> \c@lor@to@ps

LorenzoI have a problem with this file tex: \begin{document} \begin{figure} \begin{center} \begin{pspicture}(0,0)(1,3.8) \psline{-<}(0,0)(0,.2) \psline{-}(0,.2)(0,.4) \psline{*->}(0,.4)(0,.9) \psline{-*}(0,.9)(0,1.4) \psline{-<}(0,1.4)(0,2.4) \psline{-}(0,2.4)(0,3.4) \psline{*-}(0,3.4)(0,3.6) \psline{>...

 
@nuttyaboutnatty you need a postscript interpretter to use pstricks os latex/dvips or xetlatex not pdflatex or lualatex (you can use some limited pstricks functionality via pdflatex but only by it calling out to latex in a background process on a temp document)
 
FDE... freq. done error
 
@nuttyaboutnatty you had better not need that (any time soon:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle sounds convincing,but ...
@DavidCarlisle dead-end ?
 
4:45 PM
@nuttyaboutnatty because it's true:-)
 
no way to marry lualatex with pstricks ?
(...so they'll live happily ever after)
 
@nuttyaboutnatty saying you need pstricks to work in luatex is like saying you need to make your fortran program work with a C compiler. There is stuff you can do, but you can't do exactly what you ask.
 
ok
tough luck
 
@nuttyaboutnatty There are plans, but they involve writing a postscript interpreter in lua, so I would say it would take years rather than months
 
@nuttyaboutnatty Not simply. For some things you can use \usepackage{auto-pst-pdf} but this is not a good general solution and IMO should only be used in a pinch. If you want to use LuaTeX stick with TikZ and don't use PSTricks. There's very little the latter can do that the former can't also do, and TikZ is much better documented.
 
4:48 PM
could it be that for some applications of mdframed (such as tex.stackexchange.com/questions/118565/…) pstricks is really neater than tikz (or am I just doing sth wrong) ?
what I'm seeing is a minimal gap (zooming into the *.pdf)
between the outer frame and the backgroudn colour of the title
which is annoying and I can't find a way to make that gap disappear and make the "glue" watertight
 
@nuttyaboutnatty That is just some simple box colouring you shouldn't really need tikz or pstricks, but it might be convenient to use one or the other. If you think tikz is doing it wrong you should post a q with a MWE
 
@nuttyaboutnatty Which example?
 
(sry, was gone for a sec)
@MarcoDaniel see the MWE above
("ps": I think it's sth only visible on screen, not when printed; for a CV however both should be "watertight")
like in word / libreoffice, it just is snug and "watertight" (tex.stackexchange.com/questions/118565/…)
 
@nuttyaboutnatty I can't see any gap
\documentclass{article}

\usepackage[RGB]{xcolor}
\definecolor{aaa}{RGB}{0,111,222}

\usepackage[tikz]{mdframed}

\global\mdfdefinestyle{my_style_CV}{%
linecolor=aaa,linewidth=1pt,%
frametitlebackgroundcolor=aaa}

\mdfsetup{skipabove=\topskip,skipbelow=\topskip}

\begin{document}

\begin{mdframed}[style=my_style_CV,frametitlefontcolor=white,frametitle={Inhomogeneous linear}]
Example Text
\end{mdframed}
\end{document}
 
@nuttyaboutnatty what is \global doing here \global\mdfdefines
 
4:57 PM
 
@DavidCarlisle naively copied from the doc
 
@DavidCarlisle It is a copy paste of the documentation where I need global because the example is done inside a group
 
@nuttyaboutnatty wow never occurred to me to read package doc:-)
 
@MarcoDaniel so to lessen my naivity, how to amend? do I need "global" ?
 
@MarcoDaniel doesn't work though does it?
 
5:00 PM
@DavidCarlisle No. Here the sentence from the doc:
Every \global inside the examples is necessary to work with my own created environment tltxmdfexample*.
 
@MarcoDaniel this proves my point (thanks for posting the *.png, Marco): zoom into the picture and you'll see a razor-thin gap !
first, I started with framemethod=default,
 
@MarcoDaniel ah I suppose it does in this case as the ettolbox robustcommand thing uses \protected\def and this command has no optional arguments
 
then went on to try tikz
 
@nuttyaboutnatty This is a converting issue. I zoomed into the pdf with adobe acrobat and there is no gap.
 
but the best (visual) result so far I achieved with pstricks
 
5:03 PM
@DavidCarlisle Indeed.
 
@MarcoDaniel can you translate "converting issue" ? converting pdf to png ?
 
@nuttyaboutnatty Yes I am using convert -density 300 test.pdf test.png
 
cuz when I zoom in with my standard pdf reader (launchpad.net/qpdfview) I see the "light shining through" the gap, too !
within pdf (not png)
 
@nuttyaboutnatty Did you try adobe acrobat?
 
just a sec, I'll try
halleluyah
 
5:06 PM
@nuttyaboutnatty It is always possible that you get 1pixel gaps if you adjoin two coloured panels, the pdf renderer is allowed (has to) snap the boundaries to the device pixel boundaries and rounding error can give a gap. The only way to not have that is to overlap them or merge them into a single filled region. But practically (except wehn making low res png or zooming in byond readable size) modern device resolution mean that a theoretical oixel gap is not often a problem
 
zoomed in with adobe-reader to 6400 %, no gap !!
 
@nuttyaboutnatty :-)
 
@nuttyaboutnatty all pdf readers are equal, but some are more equal than others.
8
 
@nuttyaboutnatty That's a viewer issue.Try weird zoom numbers 5382 instead 6400 you will see that the gap appear/disappear along the way.
 
(though I still much prefer the sleek launchpad.net/qpdfview)
@percusse 5382's rock-solid, too
(but point taken)
 
5:09 PM
@nuttyaboutnatty Not in Acrobat :) In others, Sumatra has also that problem.
 
ok, so that's clarified: I can "get back to work" with lualatex and tikz (and stop worrying about "gaps")
@MarcoDaniel just to get back to an earlier, unanswered question: do I need "global" ?
 
Open source viewers don't have the army of Adobe coders to code anti-aliasing stuff who are copy pasting from Photoshop and Fireworks projects :) So glitches are OK.
 
should I get rid of it? how (in the above MWE) ?
 
@nuttyaboutnatty No. It's only for the example environment of the documentation.
 
just like so:
\mdfdefinestyle{my_style_CV}{%
linecolor=aaa,linewidth=1pt,%
frametitlebackgroundcolor=aaa}
instead of
\global\mdfdefinestyle{my_style_CV}{%
linecolor=aaa,linewidth=1pt,%
frametitlebackgroundcolor=aaa}
?
@MarcoDaniel another question: (ok, it's some sort of rendering / viewer-dependent issue, but still): I don't need tikz features; I only switched to it (from default), cuz it seemed to give a cleaner result (on screen). Is that me just having a false impression, or would tikz generally produce something neater?
(... and hence be recommended even if no tikz-specific features are used)
 
5:21 PM
@nuttyaboutnatty Normally there should be no differences. The default method is drawing the frame with the command \rule.
@nuttyaboutnatty correct
@nuttyaboutnatty The compilation is faster without using TikZ
 
@MarcoDaniel given it's for a 1-2 page CV, compilation time is not important
whereas the looks are especially important
 
@nuttyaboutnatty Indeed ;-)
 
@nuttyaboutnatty Are you sure about that? In IT, many companies want Word documents so that they can just feed them into some software that picks out likely candidates. And in academia, we don't pay much attention to CV format beyond general neatness/organization/typos.
 
@AlanMunn dunno how Word could ever be more handy than (a well-done and copy-and-pastable) pdf
but then again, I already have a Word (libreoffice) template, but it's a nightmare to do even such a simple thing as change the colour of the (entire) table (at least in free libreoffice)
not only a nightmare, but - adding insult to injury - buggy
 
@nuttyaboutnatty What does 'handy' mean to a program? If you're plugging something into some program that extracts information out of it, Word is as good as any other format.
 
5:30 PM
Excel maybe, but Word ?
 
@nuttyaboutnatty People had enough of fancy CVs. They are not that important anymore. Any above average company is filled with fancy CVs that are not even read twice.
 
(I've never worked for an HR dept.)
 
A clean and careful CV is more than enough
 
@percusse Exactly. Nobody cares about the look.
 
I wouldn't describe what I'm trying to do as fancy
 
5:31 PM
The HR department will.
They are used to hire people with MS Word/Bold headings/Enter button pars.
 
@nuttyaboutnatty The moment you have anything more than just text in it you've hit the "fancy" mark.
 
@AlanMunn :-)
 
how about neat and tidy and well-organized (to survive a 2-7sec skim?
anyway,
I'm sure it won't be the last incarnation of my CV
(and it worked for over two of my last applications... :-) )
(if that is any measure at all...)
 
The HR department advocates clean sentences with almost zero extra words. Then you won't be wasting the RAM memory of the reader. No offense but they are around 256 kB.
 
5:37 PM
Of course these don't apply in US. There you have to sprinkle the CV with awesome,fantastic, challenge... between every two punctuation mark including commas.
 
I don't think "the US" can be summed up like that
it so depends on where you're applying to, afaik
(where as in which company/sector/etc)
 
Yes a generalization shortcut with loss of generality
 
@nuttyaboutnatty Really? (I think you need to reconsider the seriousness of @percusse 's comment.) :)
 
@AlanMunn I've been using LinkedIn lately for some irrelevant bullshit, that's how I got the idea :)
They can't be seriously writing those articles in the home page.
 
@MarcoDaniel & co: thanks for the help!
might check in later again, if I get stuck in sth ueber-fancy ;)
 
5:43 PM
Example The Top 10 Reasons Not to Hire Competent People
What?
 
@percusse 1. They make you look bad. 2. They will steal your job. 3. You will actually have to start working. 3. ...
 
@AlanMunn Precisely.
 
@percusse One of the more serious (but just as bad) reasons that's often used in academia is "they won't stay and we'll have to do this all over again". This is how mediocre departments maintain their mediocrity.
 
@AlanMunn Oh, I'm not cooled down yet. I can write yet another Why I left academia? article. But I'm out and actually things got better on a very large scale. But that's my personal thingy. So I better don't comment on that hehe.
@Jake Thanks for the answer ;)
 
6:18 PM
Hehe, Community did its job. A perfectly good 0 vote answer of mine finally got a vote.
 
How can I put math text at the left side of the page
instead of in the middle
 
6:39 PM
@PauloCereda Yay! :-)
@PauloCereda You duck book is already signed by both of us. :-) Perhaps I should get a stamp that just prints \signature{quirky message} ;-) Is that what @David does?
@Islands I think the fleqn class option is what you're looking for.
 
7:08 PM
@Nicola Talbot: thx
 
7:32 PM
@percusse Pleasure! Can I get an upvote (just so it's moved off the unanswered list, of course)
 
@Jake In a few hours :) Sorry a lot of nice answers today :P
I just realized that @egreg caught me and about to pass
and I don't have the will to fight back.
@PauloCereda is the top voter across all Stack Exchange network. So he doesn't count.
 
@percusse Keep up the job or I'll really catch you. ;-)
Slow day, today. I got rep capped just now. ;-)
 
@egreg It's hard to hang out here after finishing the thesis. I'm investigating the rumor that there might life outside.
 
@percusse We need you.
 
@egreg Everybody loves me because I'm rich, sob.
googles a relevant emoticon
 
7:50 PM
Installed Xubuntu 13.04 and vanilla TeX Live according to my directions; installed equivs so apt-get install auctex doesn't require dependencies. Worked like a charm. :)
 
@Islands \documentclass[fleqn]
 
8:19 PM
This has nothing to do with LaTeX but I have to boast: MY SECOND PAPER IS OUT! dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jenvrad.2013.05.013 (Well, it was written in LaTeX, which is why the table is so pretty)
 
@Canageek That's an elsevier journal :) Better keep it in the closet.... heheh
but congrats anyway!
 
@percusse I know, I know, I didn't pick the journal.
 
hi again :)
 
@Canageek Yours and other fourteen's, if I counted right. ;-) Good job!
 
this time I'm stuck with my geometry settings cutting off the page margins:
\documentclass[a4paper]{article}

\usepackage[top=10mm, bottom=10mm, left=30mm, right=18mm]{geometry}
 
8:22 PM
@nuttyaboutnatty Are you using Letter paper or A4?
 
@nuttyaboutnatty have you told latex that?
 
hi!
 
On another note; is there any case in the last 15 years that anyone actually called the author of a paper by phone?
 
@nuttyaboutnatty Then pass also a4paper to geometry
 
8:23 PM
@tohecz Hey. Long time no see
 
@egreg you mean like so: \usepackage[top=10mm, bottom=10mm, left=30mm, right=18mm,a4paper]{geometry} ?
 
@percusse My last one was JACS, if that makes things better.... I'll add the web link that gives you the free JACS article if I figure out how
 
@tohecz Always hiking or working?
@nuttyaboutnatty Yes, or specifying a4paper in the \documentclass line
 
but that's what I did, see above
 
@nuttyaboutnatty The default paper size for LaTeX is Letter
 
8:25 PM
\documentclass[a4paper]{article}
 
@Canageek Just joking. Again well done. Put the preprint on your website so you won't have any problems.
 
(MWE about to come through, just a sec)
 
@percusse I actually don't have a website yet >.>
 
@Canageek Put it somewhere wait until Google caches then delete it. It will stay there forever :P
 
@percusse heh, I'll keep a copy on my HD for now.
 
8:27 PM
@nuttyaboutnatty Your setting doesn't leave enough space for the footer.
You can add includefoot
 
was also trying to use fancyhdr
 
@egr @per Yep, my browser is definitely unsupported and the chat does not refresh. And not, I'm not really working, I'm on a conference in Budapest, and again I'm sick, everything hurts, and I probably have like 38C fever. Moreover, I got very angry at a restaurant tonight. Now, I'm off to bed.
 
@egreg Yes, a lot of the work in there is mine though; I did most of the calibrations, and a lot of section 3, so I'm proud of it.
 
@tohecz :(
 
@egreg once more this happens and I'll have to come to the conclusion that I can't be a scientist
 
8:30 PM
@Canageek Unfortunately I can't look at the paper now, I'm at home.
@tohecz You should be on TeX.SX more often. ;-)
 
@egreg No worries. It isn't that interesting unless you like environmental radiation measurements.
 
@Canageek Hmm, not much, actually. ;-)
 
@egreg I should, but having to hit F5 every minute to see the new chat messages is annoying. And you hardly install a modern browser on Fedora12
 
@egreg Monitoring rainwater and seaweed reveals the presence of 131I in southwest and central British Columbia, Canada following the Fukushima nuclear accident in Japan
 
@Canageek Sounds a bit scaring.
 
8:33 PM
@egreg Not really; The conclusion is "Not enough that anyone would have ever noticed, if we hadn't been looking for it". We measured about 5 Bq/L, safety regs say anything up to 50 Bq/L is fine for human use.
 
@Canageek My brother-in-law just finished a study about the movement of water in the Pacifi Ocean based on measurements of Fukushima
 
@tohecz Cool!
 
@Canageek and IMHO (I'm a mathematician, used to be a physicist) the fact that we are able to measure it at various places is not caused by a high concentration, rather by a very good equipment.
 
@tohecz Yes, yes it is. We needed a HPGe detector with 1.5 TONS of lead shielding and still needed hours and hours of measurements to get a decent count. Even in the seaweed where it bio-accumulates, I think we worked out that you'd need to eat several kilograms of it, a day, for six months to hit a noticeable dose...and it doesn't last more then a couple of weeks.
 
@Canageek yes, that's it. Well, good night and wish me a good sleep, I'll need it. @egr
 
8:39 PM
@tohecz Good night! Have a good gulyas tomorrow.
 
8:58 PM
@egreg that works :-)
 
9:46 PM
Hi, do you know about an English grammar checker? I mean a website or a program that checks typical mistakes in a text such as missing "s" (e.g. he speak) and other cases. It need not to be perfect.
Thank you!
 
well, I guess it's about time I upgrade to TeX Live 2013
"Due to the merge of the top-level texmf/ tree into texmf-dist, no upgrade procedure is viable in 2013, for either Unix or Windows. Please do a new install."
:<
 
10:08 PM
rm -rf /usr/local/texlive
:P
 
10:20 PM
do I specify locations to rsync mirrors just like I would an http mirror?
 
@DavidCarlisle The problem seems to be in the fact that the line before the first display ends at the right margin and somehow the glue after it doesn't get removed. If I add a % after the last word umaeoiuaemm, the display is correctly spaced.
 
/usr/local/texlive/2013/texmf-dist/doc/man is the directory I want to be adding to MANPATH, right?
 
10:38 PM
@Gnintendo Yes.
 
@egreg thanks
 
10:49 PM
@egreg presumably a hyperref special? I can't try the updated MWE yet that shows the problem as the update is still making formats and spinning my disk..
 
11:02 PM
@DavidCarlisle I guess so: the \pdfdest bit is inserted before \parfillskip glue.
 
@egreg so we can just blame Heiko and go to bed happy?
 
@DavidCarlisle Probably. ;-)
 
@egreg tlmgr updated everything hope it still all works...
 
@DavidCarlisle You should do it more often.
 
@egreg ive done a couple (I thought) since 2013 but this one picked up the new binaries and remade everything
@egreg so do do you think this is safe enough workaround as I'm too tired to open up hyperref sources tonight?
\let\oldequation\equation
\def\equation{\ifhmode\unskip\fi\oldequation}
 
11:18 PM
Umph. The greek-babel has been updated; the new version has ^^9F instead of an explicit character. Which is wrong, it should be ^^9f. :(
@DavidCarlisle It seems to do.
 
@egreg there was a bug report saying it had to use ^^ as previously I think it assumed some 8bit encoding so failed in xetex but working ^^ syntax would b e better....
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, but ^^9F is wrong!
 
@egreg yes the bug report should have been more explicit than "use ^^ :-)
@egreg ah no need: Heiko fixed it:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Let's wait for the next update, then.
 
11:42 PM
Do we have a question somewhere that asks how to determine which column you're in (in twocolumn; 1/2 or left/right) or multicols (1/.../n)?
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Q: Detecting current column in multicol

girzelI'm working in a two-column multicol environment, and trying to create pullquotes using wrapfig. The problem is, I'd like these pullquotes to hang in the margin: the left margin if I'm in the left column, the right margin if I'm in the right. Is there any way to detect the current column number,...

 

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