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00:57
@egreg: there's a new upvoter in Math.SX town. :)
 
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02:43
May be TL tex.stackexchange.com/q/113404/15717 as OP 's custom.sty file " I am using had modified the default subcaption"
 
6 hours later…
09:04
@PauloCereda Which resulted in a "serial upvoting reversed", I'm afraid. ;-)
09:45
huhu
@DominicMichaelis Hi!
@egreg How are you ?
@DominicMichaelis Sitting down in front of my computer instead of being on tour. :( It's raining. :(
oh ok :( 500 of my reputation will be gone for good very soon
10:00
@DominicMichaelis On what site?
mathematics stack exchange
made a bounty which i can't award to anyone
@egreg: What is the correct way to represent the steps to solve inequalities below?
$\!
\begin{aligned}[t]
-2x	&>4\\
x 	&< \frac{4}{-2}\\
		&= 2
\end{aligned}
$
$\!
\begin{aligned}[t]
-2x	&>4\\
x 	&< \frac{4}{-2}\\
		&< 2
\end{aligned}
$
now its gone
By assuming I don't want to repeat the x for the last row on the left side.
@Bugbusters It's the same as yesterday, but with inequalities it's worse: if you don't repeat the "x", you end up with "x<4/(-2)<-2" which is utterly false.
No repetition means that you continue reading.
10:10
@egreg Then it should be the first example above.
@Bugbusters Which is misleading in another way; kids will read it differently. Their fantasy in misinterpreting formulas is unlimited.
@egreg Back to the upvote button. :)
@egreg OK. Thanks. I will repeat x.
!!/choose EB Garamond, Linux Libertine
Hmm, Requiescat in Psmith
@Brent.Longborough Oh wait. :)
!!/help
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Good morning! I'm Psmith, the friendly TeX bot - the p in my name is silent, as in pshrimp. I'm here as a companion to our fellow users in the typographic land. As you probably noticed, I always reply under Paulo's account, but do not despair, I say, my replies are always preceded by my own name. Enjoy your stay at TeX.sx! If you need any help, just ask our chat residents. Cheerio!
@Brent: Psmith is awake.
10:19
!!/choose EB Garamond, Linux Libertine
@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: EB Garamond
@PauloCereda Certa, a resposta!!!
@Brent.Longborough Show do milhão, com Sílvio Santos? :)
@PauloCereda That's it! Tell you a funny story
When I was living in Brazil, I occasionally use to buy things like furniture and saucepans, but as I was obviously a foreigner, some people liked to try and push the price too high. So I would ask "how much is that frying pan", and they would say "two hundred dollars", and my reply was always "Errada a resposta!" (The wrong answer!)
@Brent.Longborough LOL
10:25
@PauloCereda The Memsahib always got very annoyed when I did this.
!!/choose EB Garamond, Cardo
kan
kan
@Brent.Longborough Memsahib sounds very Indian.
@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: EB Garamond
kan
kan
:-)
@kan Yes, I guess it means "The Lady Boss", ie my wife
@Brent.Longborough You were mean. :)
kan
kan
10:26
@Brent.Longborough ;)
@PauloCereda Right again. Now for the really difficult one
!!/choose EB Garamond, Minion
@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: EB Garamond
@PauloCereda lambda(choose(x): return x[0]) ?????
@PauloCereda Even though the choices are brilliant
kan
kan
@Brent.Longborough Let's test this hypothesis:
!!/choose emacs, vim
@Brent.Longborough LOL that's the problem with randomness: we can't always be sure. :)
@kan Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: emacs
10:28
!!/choose Comic Sans,EB Garamond
@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: EB Garamond
kan
kan
Now!
@PauloCereda I sense a deeper Spirituality
!!/choose Comic Sans, EB Garamond, Papirus
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: Comic Sans
Run.
!!/answer Psmith, although you are only a machine, do you have a Soul?
10:30
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

although  (English word)
conjunction | though, even though, in spite of the fact that; but, except; granting or supposing that
, awldh'oh  (IPA: \:02cc\:0254lð\:02c8o\:028a)
al-though  (8 letters  | 2 syllables)
1325  (High Middle ages)  (688 years ago)
Old English
written: 161st most common  (1 in 2137 words)  ( > 99% conjunction)
spoken: 467th most common  (1 in 6250 words)
(includes some inflected forms)
(none among common words)
That's got it thinking
!!/eightball do you have a soul?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: I sense conflict.
!!/eightball Psmith, although you are only a machine, do you have a Soul?
@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: certainly not.
(@Brent: I would be funny if he replies, no, I have a Honda. :) After all, we have a car from Kia named Soul). :)
We as, we in Brazil. :)
!!/eightball Can God create a rock so large that He cannot lift it?
10:31
@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: too busy looking for bugs in longtable.
!!/answer why?
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Why?
Because.
!!/eightball Can @DavidCarlisle create a package so complex that even he cannot use it?
@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: totally.
kan
kan
:-)
@Brent.Longborough I thought that was longtable all the time. :)
!!/eightball Do you understand \expandafter?
10:33
@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: very doubtful.
@David is probably spending some quality time in his zen garden. :)
@PauloCereda The eightball is really on top form today
@Brent.Longborough Good seed, it appears. :)
Just building an otf font data database to while away the procrastination, with scripts and subfamilies and glyphs and stuff. Three million glyphs in 3000 fonts...
@Brent.Longborough You sir are amazing.
@PauloCereda That is, glyph-font combinations. If I could find a free db-in-the-cloud, I might make it public
10:38
Lets see if Percussebot is awake too: Oh gee, let's have some beer! :)
Lütfen, efendim, daha bir bira
This is Percusseboy the hangover version of Percussebot Please leave the beer and leave in silence.....
:P my body can't handle tequila anymore.....
like mathematics, it's a game for young minds .....
!!/choose Antarctica, Skol, Brahma, Kaiser, Bohemia, Itaipava, Crystal, Kronenbier, Glacial, Cintra, Schin, Bavaria, Caracu, Liber, Xingu, Sol, Miller, Cidade Imperial
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: Itaipava
Is google down?
Itaipava? No way, I was expecting Antarctica, I owe one to @StefanKottwitz. :)
@MarcoDaniel Nope. :)
10:48
@PauloCereda However I can't open google.com
@MarcoDaniel eek Chrome!
:)
@PauloCereda Are you using firefox?
@Marco: Plan B: let's steal @Stefan's wi-fi. :)
@PauloCereda :-)
@MarcoDaniel Yep. :)
10:50
@PauloCereda Odd! Firefox can reach google :-(
@MarcoDaniel Clear data from Chrome, maybe some odd caching.
@MarcoDaniel Big irony: Chrome doesn't reach Google. ;-)
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@egreg Indeed :-)
@MarcoDaniel @PauloCereda isn't google using some nasty trick with dns entries? perhaps they added code to prevent this misuse by mistake
@egreg Oh my, I didn't think of that! :)
10:52
@PauloCereda I'd actually gone to see the wizard of oz
@DavidCarlisle The one with Judy Garland, I hope. ;-)
@FrankMittelbach Oh, that might be it. There are some hidden requests Chrome does for every URL call. :)
@DavidCarlisle Yay! We are off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of Oz!
@egreg I doubt you'd want to see a live performance wiih Judy Garland now:-)
@egreg I have the DVD, I bought it so I could watch it sync'ed with The Dark Side of the Moon. :)
@PauloCereda Here you are:
select count(*) from glyphs

count
2974858

select count(*) from families

count
6079

with temp as (select distinct family from families)
select count(*) from temp

count
1459

select count(*)
from families join glyphs using(fid)
where family = 'EB Garamond'
and subfamily = 'Regular'

count
4780
10:56
@Brent.Longborough Wow!
@PauloCereda Now that's what I call procrastination
11:06
!!/choose procrastinate, work
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: procrastinate
2
woohoo!
@Paulo sometimes your bot is a genious
@Brent: enums in Python 3.4?!
@DominicMichaelis Sometimes. :)
11:35
@PauloCereda I'm sure with a enough patience I might find the history of Psmith somewhere, but being impatient ... can I have a fortune too? ... (and how the hell is it working anyway? :-)
@FrankMittelbach Sure! :)
!!/fortune
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Here is your fortune: You love Chinese food.
:)
and can I try this too?
!!/fortune
@FrankMittelbach Psmith, the TeX bot: Here is your fortune: Watch out for low flying ducks.
Yay! :)
@PauloCereda close bot wrong ... Japanese food
@FrankMittelbach :) I don't eat it too often, so I always mistake one for another. :)
11:39
@PauloCereda so how does this work?
@Brent.Longborough The last version of ebgaramond.sty is just as I proposed. :-)
your bot scans the chat?
@FrankMittelbach It answers queries that start with !!/
@FrankMittelbach There's a JS script that monitors the chat looking for specific triggers, then I wrote a server in my side that gets requests from the script and returns them. :)
!!/texdef -t latex -p multicol multicols
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode: Here's the output from texdef:

\multicols:
macro:#1->\col@number #1\relax \ifnum \col@number <\tw@ \PackageWarning {multicol}{Using `\number \col@number ' columns doesn't seem a good idea. I therefore use two columns instead}\col@number \tw@ \fi \ifnum \col@number >10 \PackageError {multicol}{Too many columns}{Current implementation doesn't support more than 10 columns.\MessageBreak I therefore use 10 columns instead}\col@number 10 \fi \ifx \@footnotetext \mult@footnotetext \else \let \orig@footnotetext \@footnotetext \let \@footnotetext \mult@footn
@PauloCereda cool
11:42
@FrankMittelbach The bot is rude, sometimes. :)
!!/eightball Do you use emacs?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: my sources say no.
Oh no!
/faints
even on windows
kan
kan
@FrankMittelbach Woohoo! :)
but I own a cup that holds the top 30 commands for vi in an emergency ;-)
11:44
@FrankMittelbach David once tried to run vim. It wasn't a pleasant experience. :)
Apr 12 at 16:40, by David Carlisle
user image
@FrankMittelbach Cool! I once saw this cup, and I was tempted to buy it. :)
!!/battle
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 185 vs. 90 David. So far, egreg is winning.
@PauloCereda is he?
@FrankMittelbach A lot. :)
!!/eightball what kind of guy is Paulo?
11:48
@FrankMittelbach Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: only when pink elephants learn to fly.
@Frank: eightball only answers yes/no questions. :)
The bot is also linked to Wolfram Alpha.
need to go cooking ...
!!/answer weather in Mainz, Germany.
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

weather | Mainz, Germany
temperature | 15 °C  (wind chill: 14 °C)
conditions | partly cloudy
relative humidity | 72%  (dew point: 10 °C)
wind speed | 4.6 m/s
(30 minutes ago)
between 9 °C and 16 °C
clear (all day)  |  rain (mid-morning onward)
between 6 °C and 11 °C
rain (night to early morning)  |  clear (night to early morning)  |  few clouds (early morning onward)

  |  |   |
low: 5 °C
Mon, May 13, 2:00am | average high:  | 17 °C
average low:  | 10 °C | high: 23 °C
@FrankMittelbach ooh Japanese food? :)
@FrankMittelbach @PauloCereda brought Psmith to life so that he could answer important questions like:
!!/cricket
11:50
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode: Let's take a look at the last cricket results:

- Gloucestershire 371/3 * v Hampshire 274/10
- Warwickshire 284/5 * v Middlesex 428/5
- Worcestershire 320/7  v Leicestershire 303/5 *
- England Lions 285/4 * v New Zealanders 285/10
- Surrey 237/10  v Durham 132/3 *
- Malaysia Under-19s 119/4 * v Nepal Under-19s 118/10
- Kuwait Under-19s 128/10  v Saudi Arabia Under-19s 103/10 *
- Afghanistan Under-19s 58 * v United Arab Emirates Under-19s 57/10
- Pune Warriors 94/5 * v Mumbai Indians
@PauloCereda don't do that daily ... but did last thursday in bigger style
today it is some simple pasta
@FrankMittelbach :)
user image
2
thursdays starters ;-)
@FrankMittelbach WOW!
 
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13:09
Yay, @JosephWright is here! :)
@PauloCereda Hello
@JosephWright Two emails for you today, I promise. :)
@PauloCereda OK
@JosephWright I was in a hurry these days. :)
13:56
@FrankMittelbach "Das perfekte dinner" ;-)
14:27
@MarcoDaniel Why \quad? It's arbitrary and, IMO, wrong. Just {} is what you need to get the spacing right.
@egreg Normally yes. I will change it.
@egreg we're both doing grep background /usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mh/* at the same time:-)
14:43
Converting my music collection to .oga right now. Too bad my iDevices don't support the format. :(
@DavidCarlisle I use ack background $(dirname $(kpsewhich breqn.sty))/*
15:03
@egreg Maybe awk? :)
kan
kan
Playing Adele...
@egreg yes well I used kpsewhich really as well, so not very different:-)
15:19
@PauloCereda Don't you know ack? Try immediately brew install ack and man ack
@egreg Wow!
@PauloCereda beyondgrep.com
@egreg Goodbye grep. :)
[enrico2013] ~ > ack --thpppt
_   /|
\'o.O'
=(___)=
   U    ack --thpppt!
@PauloCereda If you tried man emacs perhaps we would wean you off vim as easily?
kan
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15:25
@PauloCereda Did you see man ack: <quote> Do not throw away grep! </quote>
@DavidCarlisle Nope. :)
!!/answer weather Oxford, United Kingdom
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

No results available.
@egreg Yes, I noticed... :-)
@PauloCereda It's raining cats and dogs.
15:34
@DavidCarlisle Uh-oh. :)
!!/answer weather in Oxford, United Kingdom.
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

weather | Oxford, United Kingdom
temperature | 12 °C  (wind chill: 9 °C)
conditions | partly cloudy
relative humidity | 58%  (dew point: 4 °C)
wind speed | 9.3 m/s
(45 minutes ago)
between 4 °C and 13 °C
few clouds (early morning to late morning  |  late afternoon onward)  |  rain (late morning onward)  |  cloudy (late morning to late afternoon)
between 2 °C and 6 °C
rain (night to early morning)  |  few clouds (night  |  early morning onward)  |  clear (late night to early morning)
ooh it's cold.
"partly cloudy" == solid wall of water tipping out of the sky:(
@DavidCarlisle In internet slang, that escalated quickly. :)
@PauloCereda Don't see why it has to be a language change; I'm sure it could be done (if you need it ?) with conventional class constructs
@DavidCarlisle Of course; I'm sure you can see some part clouds between the sheets of water!
@Brent.Longborough My thoughts exactly.
@PauloCereda Python 3.4 is the new Java
15:39
@Brent.Longborough Java 8 is the new Ruby. :)
@PauloCereda That's soooo silly. Like "PL/I is the new Shrubbery".
@PauloCereda but real programmers still use fortran
@DavidCarlisle Clipper.
@DavidCarlisle Indeed they do. And APL.
@Brent.Longborough Ni. :)
15:42
@DavidCarlisle Actually, not quite. Real (Ie Old) programmers use FORTRAN
And that ain't small caps.
@Brent.Longborough Yes and (as I found out last week) some use APL and Fortran at the same time.
@DavidCarlisle And then, there's ( Lithp )
!!/choose Haskell, (Lisp), APL, Erlang, Scala, Brainf**k
@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: APL
@DavidCarlisle Typical British understatement. :) Some years ago I was in London and I went to Fortnum & Mason in Piccadilly, where I bought an umbrella. The shop clerk asked me if I wanted she to pack it and I pointed to the window. "Typical London weather!" she said.
@egreg Splendid establishment for discerning Gentlemen and Cavalieri
15:45
It was a very good umbrella, by the way. It served me for more than ten years: just the right size to keep in my bag. Commuters always have their umbrella.
@Brent.Longborough Very nice shop indeed.
@egreg What make was the umbrella?
!!/choose Fox, Knirps, Fulton
@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: Fulton
@PauloCereda I've got an APL compiler installed and every now and then I hit some key combination that flips the keyboard input from UK to APL: it's pretty scary then:-) ?⍵∊⍴~↑↓⍳○*⍺⌈⌊_∇∆∘'⎕
@Brent.Longborough Oh, I don't remember. It was a folding one. Very light.
@Brent.Longborough Now I have a Knirps.
@egreg I've never owned an umbrella:-)
15:48
Mary Poppins.
@egreg I had, and loved, a Knirps many years ago. Running across a busy street in Mexico City, I slipped in mud on the far pavement, fell on it, and turned it into a pretzel.
kan
kan
It's raining here too...
I see that in Turkey, now, the height of fashion is a moustache transplant. The reporter didn't say whether it was for men or women.
@PauloCereda Xô!
15:51
@Brent.Longborough LOL you clearly can't step in time. :)
@PauloCereda Double Xô, with a smoked salmon garnish.
@Brent.Longborough LOL
!!/define Shrubbery
@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm deeply sorry, old chap, but the command define does not exist.
!!/answer shrubbery
!!/answer Shrubbery
15:52
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

shrubbery  (English word)
1 | noun | an area where a number of shrubs are planted
2 | noun | a collection of shrubs growing together
shr'uhberee  (IPA: \:0283r\:02c8\:028cb\:025di)
shrub-ber-y  (9 letters  | 3 syllables)
shrubberies
area  |  country  |  botany  |  flora  |  vegetation   (total: 5)
rubbery
(based on typical American pronunciation)
scrubbers
(none among common words)
shrubbery.com  |  shrubbery.net  |  shrubbery.org  |  shrubbery.info  |  shrubbery.biz   (total: 5)
!!/answer elderberries
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

elderberry | amount | 1 cup
serving size 1 cup (145 g)
total calories  106 | fat calories  6
% daily value^* |
  total fat  725 mg | 1%
       saturated fat  33 mg | 0%
       trans fat   |
  cholesterol  0 g | 0%
  sodium  9 mg | 0%
  total carbohydrates  27 g | 9%
       dietary fiber  10 g | 41%
       sugar   |
  protein  1 g | 2%
   vitamin A  17%    |    vitamin C  87%
   calcium  6%    |    iron  13%
   thiamin  7%    |    riboflavin  5%
   niacin  4%    |    vitamin B6  17%
!!/answer Baskerville
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Query was not understood, no results available.
!!/answer Plantin
15:54
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

6808 Plantin (1932 CP)  (minor planet)
current distance from Earth | 1.469 au
12.22 light minutes
average distance from Earth | 2.37 au
19.7 light minutes
current distance from Sun | 2.05 au
17.1 light minutes
largest distance from orbit center | 3.68×10^8 km
2.46 au
nearest distance from orbit center | 3.04×10^8 km
2.04 au
orbital period | 3.37 Julian years
discovery year | 1932  (81 years ago)
right ascension | 10^h 56^m 2^s
declination | 9° 22'
Regulus  |  Alphard  |  Spica  |  Pollux  |  Procyon  |  Arcturus  |  Castor  |  Alioth  |  Dubhe  |  A
!!/answer Who is David Carlisle?
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

David, Chiriqui, Panama to Carlisle, Cumbria, United Kingdom
8572 km  (kilometers)
aircraft  (550 mph) | 9 hours 40 minutes
sound | 7 hours
light in fiber | 40 ms  (milliseconds)
light in vacuum | 29 ms  (milliseconds)
(assuming constant-speed great-circle path)
0.21 ~~ 1 / 5
David | 10:55 am EST | Saturday, May 11, 2013
Carlisle | 4:55 pm GMT/BST | Saturday, May 11, 2013
 | David | Carlisle
city population | 82859 people  (country rank: 4th)  (2004) | 72633 people  (country rank: ~~119th)  (2004)
!!/answer who is Brent Longborough
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Brent, Florida, United States | longitude
87° 15' 2"W
-1.523 radians
-87 degrees 15 arc minutes 2.495 arc seconds
-5^h 49^m 0.1663^s  (right ascension)
-96.95 grads
 (unit officially deprecated)
-0.9695 quad  (quadrants)
Oh no, Florida!
!!/answer Garamond
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Gramond, Midi-Pyrenees, France
city population | 376 people  (2004 estimate)
5:56 pm CEST | Saturday, May 11, 2013
12 °C  (wind chill: 9 °C)  |  relative humidity: 67%  |  wind: 9 m/s  |  cloudy
Rodez, Midi-Pyrenees | 19 km  (kilometers) east-northeast | 24289 people
Albi, Midi-Pyrenees | 42 km  (kilometers) south-southwest | 48889 people
Toulouse, Midi-Pyrenees | 103 km  (kilometers) southwest | 426700 people
Montpellier, Languedoc-Roussillon | 141 km  (kilometers) east-southeast | 244700 people
!!/eightball Psmith, are you approximate?
15:57
@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: I'll answer after we have interviewed Paulo.
@PauloCereda yeh!!!! ^^
@DavidCarlisle :)
16:38
@PauloCereda Do we have a date?
@DavidCarlisle: Would it be better to use \rule{\ht\strutbox}{0pt} instead of \strut. \strut has a depth. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/113738/…
@MarcoDaniel the depth is why I added the strut! (if you look at the image in the original post (without a strut) you'll see the problem) the note on a line with a descender is misplaced, by adding a strut you know how much it needs to be raised by (\dp\strutbox)
@DavidCarlisle I see ;-)
17:15
@JosephWright Hi, what to do when someone doesn't like your edits? tex.stackexchange.com/posts/113747/revisions
@AlanMunn I wrote a comment.
@AlanMunn Hard to fathom why he rolled back your entirely reasonable edits
@Brent.Longborough Yes, and edit wars are seriously counter productive, so I don't want to rollback the rollback. @MarcoDaniel Thanks for the comment, maybe that will help.
@AlanMunn I put in my gross tuppenceworth too.
+1 for the note on edit wars
@egreg Looks nice, but not for Windows. That is, what's this Chocolatey thing, and where's the Cygwin version that Real Men would use?
@DavidCarlisle Hello
Here is what I got, using your code. Can you tell me, why is the vertical gap between the horizontal line & 1 & 2 texts is bigger, then between the line & "text" text?
How to make them equal?
17:33
Soccer results: 11 passes, 0 goals. :)
@MarcoDaniel Your comment did the trick. The problem was editing via rollback. I've reimplemented part of my previous changes, which I assume will be accepted without a fuss.
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Q: PPTX to TeX converter

user29701is there a converter available to generate tex code out of powerpoint slides? beamer documentcalls is preferred. another tex code is accepted if beamer output would not possible. is there maybe an open source project available to modify the converter?

Feb 20 '12 at 17:43, by Paulo Cereda
Where is debroglie/broccolli/crocodile when we need it? :P
@AlanMunn Revert them
A common trend among tech (as in technology) users is that whenever they see something a little complicated, they go : Oh, let me use an API and bla bla and tweak to make a converter from this to that. Unfortunately, they also started to discover TeX.
@AlanMunn Also remember, though, that each post has someone's name on it, so if they really want to say something one way then that's how it is (see for example Barbara Beeton's lower case business)
17:41
@JosephWright Thanks, it's ok now. The person used rollback instead of just editing, so some changes that I made then got reversed. We've now reached a compromise. :)
@JosephWright hello
@user4035 Hello
David Carlisle has given me the code to draw a horizontal line in a table cell: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/113705/…
@JosephWright: second email being written. :)
here in the last comment. But I don't understand, how can I control the gap between the line & the text beneath it
17:48
I nominated myself for math moderator :D
@PauloCereda OK
@DominicMichaelis :-)
@DominicMichaelis 'Hammer time' :-)
@JosephWright: \par\medskip\nointerlineskip\hbox to \hsize{\kern-\tabcolsep\hrulefill\kern-\tabcolsep}\medskip
@user4035 Very low-level plain: do you really need to do this?
I removed the last \medskip, but there is still too much space
@JosephWright how difficult is it to be moderator on TeX stackexchange? the TeX user seems to me to be very very friendly and nice behaving
17:50
@JosephWright I needed a \multirow, but it overlaped the next line & had to use this hack
@JosephWright I just used \hrule but (s)he wasn't happy with that:-)
@DavidCarlisle Hello :)
@DavidCarlisle "He"
@user4035 Mod work here is easy: from the talk in the mod chat room, we are quite well off
@DominicMichaelis Some of our conventions confuse people elsewhere on the network
@user4035 As I said on a comment on the answer you can replace \medskip by \vspace{3in} if you want a different space
@DominicMichaelis Relative to other sites, I think our mods have very little to deal with.
17:52
@user4035 hard to tell from your name:-)
@AlanMunn My impression, certainly for the bigger site. Harder to say for the smaller ones.
@AlanMunn I think the hardest insults most here know are "you (choose emacs, vim) user"
@JosephWright Things like "treat everyone with respect". :)
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  \par\medskip\nointerlineskip\hbox to \hsize{\kern-\tabcolsep\hrulefill\kern-\tabcolsep}
  2\\
here is what I tried. I removed the \medskip completely
@DavidCarlisle You see, the space is a little bigger
@DominicMichaelis How about "You'd be better off typesetting that in Comic Sans"? :-)
17:54
@Brent oh right, that seems to be a harsh one
@DominicMichaelis I think the biggest insult here is "Did you use fancychap?
@user4035 Ignore the snide comments from the gallery, people get very upset around here if they see vertical rules in tables.
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@AlanMunn Well that as well
@Brent.Longborough It's based on Perl
@DavidCarlisle I must use them for the invoice - the format is strict
18:00
@user4035 It's so called 'formal tables' where vertical rules are bad news: things like 'fill in by hand' grids or indeed fixed-format documents are a different case
@user4035 If you remove both \medskip you get:
@DavidCarlisle yes
you see the space to the 9 (was 2) is governed by baselineskip not by the height of the 9, so when you add medskip above and below the line the visual space is still bigger
@user4035 so basically just use \vspace{} for a value that looks right (the visual appreciation of the white space and TeX's measurement of box reference points are not directly related:-)
@DavidCarlisle lol, I just wanted to say it
\vspace{-1mm} worked
@user4035 In case like this, if it looks right it is right:-)
18:05
Can you update your answer with this?
\begin{tabular}{|p{2cm}|p{2cm}|}
  \hline
  line 1 line 1 line 2 line 2 line 2 line 2&
  1
  \par\medskip\nointerlineskip\hbox to \hsize{\kern-\tabcolsep\hrulefill\kern-\tabcolsep}
  \vspace{-1mm}
  2\\
  \hline
  text & text\\
  \hline
\end{tabular}
@user4035 ok:-)
@user4035 done
@DavidCarlisle accepted :)
@user4035 thanks, lets see...
!!/battle
@DavidCarlisle Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 260 vs. 230 David. So far, egreg is winning.
@user4035 quick ask two more (easier) questions ^^^
18:14
did someone say easy question ?
@DavidCarlisle I'll try
@user4035 :-) I didn't really mean it
!!/eightball are vertical rules in tables good things to have?
@DavidCarlisle Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: yes. Beware, Alan might stab you.
18:49
!!/battle
@DavidCarlisle Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 260 vs. 260 David. So far, nobody is winning today.
19:18
!!/battle
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 275 vs. 260 David. So far, egreg is winning.
This is better.
@egreg :)
@egreg are you sure? It doesn't look that way to me.
19:35
@egreg Yes, Now I've installed it under cpan under cygwin, after a lot of irritation. Looks good. Didn't like the look of Chocolatey at all - Imagine using ie to download stuff!
@egreg After so many years, Perl is still fantastic. "The Swiss Army Chainsaw"
Is there a PerlTeX?
19:54
@Brent.Longborough Yes, there is.
Nostalgy!
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Q: AmSTeX with TeXworks

Erland GaddeI downloaded MiKTeX and got TeXworks. A document in TeXworks can be typeset with several alternatives: LaTeXmk, pdfTeX, pdfLaTeX, pdfLaTeX + MakeIndex + BibTeX, XeTeX, XeLaTeX, XeLaTex + MakeIndex + BibTeX, ConTeXt (LuaTex), ConTeXt (pdfTeX), ConTeXt (XeTeX), BibTeX, MakeIndex. But I miss AmSTeX...

20:11
Any recommendations for a key-value options package? Is it just personal preference? I'm inclined to use kvoptions but should I use something else?
@AlanMunn L3. :)
@PauloCereda Not yet...
@AlanMunn You cannot escape your destiny. (KENOBI, 1983)
:)
I haven't seen a single Star Wars movie!
@AlanMunn <Darth Vader's voice> nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
20:29
user image
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@AlanMunn LOL
@AlanMunn ooh! :)
@AlanMunn There's the one true original and best:-)
@DavidCarlisle But would you still recommend it?
@AlanMunn well I tend to forget the others exist:-) But I don't really write any tex these days so I don't know what features the others have.
@DavidCarlisle For example, Will Robertson writes "nowadays I'd recommend a more modern alternative" tex.stackexchange.com/a/26773/2693
@AlanMunn yes well Will is a more modern person, so that's consistent.
20:55
@DavidCarlisle LOL
@AlanMunn /whispers L3.
@DavidCarlisle: on an unrelated topic, my iPad has vim! Isn't that great, @DavidCarlisle? :)
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