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@DavidCarlisle Hm so this is Viper...
@egreg: by the way, which name did you pick for your new MacBook? :)
 
@PauloCereda No name.
 
@egreg Oh no! You have to pick a name!
It's important. :)
@JosephWright's machine is palladium. :)
 
@PauloCereda Never gave one to my machines, except for the one at the office that has a static IP.
 
@egreg Ah. :) So currently it's MacBook di Enrico. :)
 
12:12 AM
@egreg grr just beat me on the lettrine one (and earlier today on bytefield) :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle The battle is ongoing. ;-)
!!/battle
 
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 10 vs. 0 David. So far, egreg is winning.
@egreg: already winning? :)
 
@PauloCereda The lettrine answer. :)
 
@egreg Ah!
 
12:20 AM
@PauloCereda why isn't it a 3-way battle: Gonzalo's ahead of me for week/month/quarter/all
 
@DavidCarlisle I'll work on a new version. :)
 
leo
12:38 AM
Whenever a counter is stepped it is increased by 1. For example the first chapter is numbered as 1, the second as 2 and so on. What if I want to number chapter n by f(n)? In particular, I want f(n) = 4 + (n-1)*9, so chapter 1 is 4, chapter 2 13, and so on. Is there some nice way to achieve this?
and Hi! :-)
 
 
4 hours later…
4:41 AM
@leo you can make a Q with a broad sense and MWE. although i have no idea on this.
@Bugbusters your bounties are like mall advts :) very luring
 
leo
5:00 AM
@texenthusiast In this case one approach would be just redefine \thechapter, something like \renewcommand\thechapter{\arabic{4+(\value{chapter}-1)*9}}. I've already tried that with the calc package. However it doesn't work. I think it's because \arabic expects a counter name as mandatory argument. The other thing I'm thinking is something like patch the \chapter command adding a \pgfmathtruncatemacro{\thechapter}{4+(\value{chapter}-1)*9} just after the \stepcounter{chapter}
but this wouldn't work in all cases
so perhaps it must be something that redefines \stepcounter in some cases
 
5:17 AM
@texenthusiast ;-)
 
6:12 AM
@GonzaloMedina: for request 6 I can image the following (pseudo-code):
\setbox1\vbox{CONTENT}
\setbox0\vsplit1to(\ht1-\baselineskip)%box has the last line
\setbox0=\hbox{\unvbox0}
width of last line= \wd0
 
6:28 AM
Just for fun!
 
 
2 hours later…
8:18 AM
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\documentclass{article}
\renewcommand\thesection{\f{section}}

\newcommand\f[1]{\number\numexpr4+(\value{#1}-1)*9\relax}
\begin{document}

\section{}\section{}\section{}\section{}
\section{}\section{}\section{}\section{}


\end{document}
 
9:05 AM
@JosephWright I just noticed the source says you are one of the current maintainers of mathtools:-) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/109174/…
 
9:21 AM
@leo @David I believe that the system did not recognize the link ...
Btw, someone French speaker here?
 
Which one do you recommend for the following cases?
\documentclass[preview,border=12pt,varwidth]{standalone}
\usepackage{mathtools}

\begin{document}
\abovedisplayskip=0pt\relax
\begin{align*}
\!
\begin{aligned}[b]
\framebox[6cm]{Top LHS}\\
\framebox[5cm]{Middle LHS}\\
\framebox[7cm]{Bottom LHS}
\end{aligned}
	&= \!
		 \begin{aligned}[t]
			&\framebox[6cm]{Top RHS 1}\\
			&\framebox[5cm]{Middle RHS 1}\\
			&\framebox[7cm]{Bottom RHS 1}
		\end{aligned}
\end{align*}

\begin{align*}
\!
\begin{aligned}[b]
\framebox[6cm]{Top LHS}\\
\framebox[5cm]{Middle LHS}\\
 
@DavidCarlisle Lars does most of the work
 
@JosephWright but not so easy to ping with @
 
10:26 AM
Does aligned supersede split?
 
10:44 AM
@Bugbusters no they were/are both in the original amsmath
 
@DavidCarlisle I am confused in choosing one of them. aligned seems to be superior.
 
@Bugbusters They do different things: split honors the tbtags or centertags option (the latter is the default).
 
@JosephWright: How's the laptop?
 
10:59 AM
@egreg In your answer somewhere, you use \tag right after the environment but before the the expressions, what is it for? As far as I know, the \tag should be used at the end of line but before\\.
 
!!/battle
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 245 vs. 200 David. So far, egreg is winning.
 
!!/answer what kind of battle is it?
 
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Battle  (surname)
rank | 1359th
fraction | 1 in 11274 people (0.0089%)
number | 23934 people
(based on 2000 United States Census)
black | 78.89%
white | 16.43%
mixed | 2.18%
Hispanic | 2.01%
Amerindian | 0.26%
Asian | 0.23%
Howard Battle  (baseball player) (born 1972) (age: 41 years)
Kathleen Battle  (singer) (born 1948) (age: 64 years)
Hinton Battle  (singer) (born 1956) (age: 56 years)
Jackie Battle  (football player) (born 1983) (age: 29 years)
John Battle  (basketball player) (born 1962) (age: 50 years)
 
@Psmith: I see.
 
what is better to write a topology script, article or scrartcl ?
 
11:03 AM
@Bugbusters \tag goes where you want it to act. If you put it before a \\ it refers to that line. After, \\ refers to the next line. But there's no required position.
 
@egreg Thanks.
 
Friends, when SyncTeX is enabled, when the value is 0 or 1?
 
@PauloCereda 1: enabled, -1: enabled with compression (or vice versa, I cannot recall)
 
@TorbjørnT. I got a pull request for arara about mixing the values. I might summon the other guys. :)
 
11:19 AM
@PauloCereda Well, I'm pretty sure that 1 enables syncing, see e.g. mactex-wiki.tug.org/wiki/index.php/SyncTeX
 
@Bugbusters it's the daily rep count, and @egreg has had an unfair advantage in last few days with some anomalous high bounty scores....
 
@TorbjørnT. Thanks.
 
@DavidCarlisle :-)
 
11:35 AM
@MarcoDaniel: there's a new card I added in Trello about a pull request I got. Could you please take a look? I'm not sure (let's not answer in the GitHub right now, but in Trello first).
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A: Fancy chapter headings

Paulo NeyThe link given to BOTH the package chaptersx and documentation is dead: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B75n0wtctw00YVJGRmJ4d2FUajZyVFBPTTVPNGU0Zw

Paulo Ney de Souza is amongst us? :)
 
@PauloCereda If only you'd used svn you'd be a total dictator and not have to worry about newfangled things like pull requests
 
@DavidCarlisle Use git, they said. It would be fun, they said. People contribute, they said.
 
@PauloCereda yes it's fun until people start to contribute then you become a project manager not a hacker:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Sounds boring. :)
 
Which one is recommended?
\documentclass[preview,border=12pt,12pt]{standalone}
\usepackage{mathtools}
\usepackage{palatino}
\begin{document}
\abovedisplayskip=0pt\relax
\begin{gather}
y=mx+c\tag*{line}\\
y=ax^2+bx+c\tag*{quadratic}
\end{gather}

\begin{align*}
y=mx+c&&&\text{line}\\
y=ax^2+bx+c&&&\text{quadratic}
\end{align*}

\end{document}
 
11:47 AM
@PauloCereda Fixed :-)
 
@JosephWright Yay! :) New HD?
 
@PauloCereda No, just needed repartitioning. My recovery DVD is not here, so I got the Apple shop to do it
 
@JosephWright ooh an Apple genius! :)
I've never seen one.
Well, we don't have stores here. :P
 
!!/battle
 
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 260 vs. 215 David. So far, egreg is winning.
 
11:54 AM
17 parameters to tune for a model-to-fit-data problem.
MATLAB : 56 seconds no answers
percusse : 1.5 hours
Either I'm getting mechanical or I'm using wrong tools.
 
@PauloCereda Hi. At the evening I will do it. At the moment I am at work ;-)
 
12:14 PM
@MarcoDaniel Danke. :)
@percusse ooh bode!
!!/translate from pt to en bode
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: goat
goatplot FTW.
@cgnieder: oh no, you starred dandelion!
Now I need to fix stuff.
 
kan
What is the image here?! Grumpy cat? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/109217/…
/shows off ignorance. :)
 
Speaking of dandelions, @DavidCarlisle please create a buttercup repository, so we can start our new adventure. :)
@kan LOL yes. :) We got trolled. :)
 
kan
@PauloCereda Uh-oh. I am tempted to downvote, for trolling! Well, you know, a newbie. So, I won't! :)
 
@kan We got trolled by accident. The image uploader used by the OP does not accept hotlinks.
Not the OP's fault.
 
kan
Oh, how bad.
 
12:24 PM
I'll fix it.
Fixed.
Oh no, the question was downvoted!
 
kan
@PauloCereda Hmm, I think, for this site, reputation requirement for uploading images seem unnecessary! After all, if people could write code for showing what they want (esp. tikz questions), they'd not have questions. But, I do understand that, this is good!!
 
Please, could someone upvote the question?
 
kan
@PauloCereda Not me!
@PauloCereda Will do!
 
@kan Thank you. :)
 
kan
Done. :)
 
12:27 PM
Some image hosts are feral with hotlinks. If you get the link, copy and paste in the URL bar, it works (no referral from the URL), but from a context, it's considered hotlink. Again, not the OP's fault, but he/she chose poorly his/her image host. :) @percusse: where's the he/she ligature? I need one now. And some fries too, please. <3
 
@DavidCarlisle Here's how amsthm.sty defines \frenchspacing as
\def\frenchspacing{\sfcode`\.1006\sfcode`\?1005\sfcode`\!1004%
  \sfcode`\:1003\sfcode`\;1002\sfcode`\,1001 }
 
@egreg would have required more emacs lisp than I used to change \@m to 1001
@egreg do you recognise this notation? is it restricting a 2-arg function by fixing one parameter if f|_{x=2} ? It looks weird to me tex.stackexchange.com/questions/109198/…
 
@DavidCarlisle that looks like some badly notated partial sum / marginal function
 
12:46 PM
@PauloCereda Oh, shouldn't I have done that? I can unstar it again, if you want ;)
 
1:03 PM
@cgnieder Now I need to make things work. :)
Gmail is down! noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
 
@PauloCereda down? I had some troubles with their SMTP server, but it seems to be back...
 
@tohecz IMAP currently sucks. :)
 
@PauloCereda not here :-/
(I recieved a mail just 20 minutes ago)
 
1:20 PM
@PauloCereda I have Mountain Lion on DVD, but it's at my mum's house. Definitely will make a copy for my flat ;-)
 
@JosephWright Good plan. :) I have mine on a bootable USB stick.
And Snow Leopard too. :)
 
@PauloCereda Also a good idea
@PauloCereda My machine came with Snow Leopard, so I have that available on DVD
 
@JosephWright Mine came with Lion, and AppStore gave me ML for free. Just to be safe, I got the .dmg file from ML and created a bootable USB, in case I need it again. :)
 
1:38 PM
Dear internet: if you have a final boss, please play Beethoven Virus as the boss soundtrack.
 
2:32 PM
ooh Allianz wants the naming rights for the Palestra Arena!"
 
3:00 PM
\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{tikz}

\begin{document}

\begin{tikzpicture}[y=0.80pt, x=0.8pt,yscale=-1, inner sep=0pt, outer sep=0pt]
  \path[color=black,fill=black,line width=0.800pt] (416.0163,261.4279) --
    (415.8288,261.6154) -- (237.6100,406.2716) -- (237.3913,406.4591) --
    (237.4226,406.7404) -- (242.6413,449.2404) -- (242.6726,449.5216) --
    (242.9226,449.6153) -- (322.7039,486.1778) -- (323.0164,486.3028) --
    (323.2351,486.0841) -- (508.2039,332.4591) -- (508.3914,332.3028) --
 
@PauloCereda about what you expect from tikz, not sure which hurts the eyes more, the input or the output.
 
@DavidCarlisle Both. :) Release the picture mode dragon. :)
 
@PauloCereda Home and answered your trello card
 
@MarcoDaniel Danke. :)
 
@PauloCereda Every time interesting how important a 0 or 1 can be.
 
3:15 PM
@MarcoDaniel Indeed.
 
3:27 PM
@topskip I foolishly thought that 12GiB would be ample :-)
 
@NicolaTalbot 12GiB ought to be enough for anybody.
 
@topskip I need moarz. :)
 
@PauloCereda too bad MacBook 13" don't offer more than 8. Well, glad they don't, otherwise I would thinking about buying one.
 
@topskip Mine has 1GB! :)
 
@topskip I've got 8 in mine (up from 4 as supplied): seems to be fine
 
3:30 PM
I've discovered that angband is available for android devices. I can play while my computer's processing giant images :-)
 
Then again, mine is over three years old now
 
@JosephWright I've got 8 as well. Next thing I'll get a 500 SSD if they are affordable.
 
@topskip That sounds expensive!
 
@topskip @egreg's MacBook is SSD, if I recall correctly. :)
 
@PauloCereda But nothing like that big, I'd imagine
 
3:32 PM
@JosephWright I'll wait until its not expensive anymore. Even if that means that I'll wait another few years.
 
@PauloCereda Yes, it is. And it's expensive.
 
@egreg Retina display?
 
@egreg would you prefer article or scrartcl ?
for a script like algebra or something
 
500 GB SSD for 329 Euro. Not bad, but still a tiny bit expensive.
@DominicMichaelis scrartcl
 
KOMA!
 
3:35 PM
(oh, I am not egreg....)
 
I feel ashamed. My smartphone is smarter than me.
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!!/fortune
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Here is your fortune: Use longtable.
@DavidCarlisle: ^
 
i want to sketch a set with tikz it should be a bit curvy but not to curvy
 
@JosephWright Yes.
 
4:00 PM
@egreg: Kevin Hamlen plans to include songs in TL! :)
 
@PauloCereda Who's Kevin Hamlen?
 
@egreg The author of songs. :)
 
@PauloCereda Ah, good!
@DominicMichaelis I never use scr..., just personal taste.
 
we have new things, like tex/sx (whose reputation system i don't
understand, so i don't try to "answer" things).  we have the old
original texhax mailing list.  we've lost the uk-tex list (subsumed in
texhax), info-tex (subsumed in the upstart comp.text.tex in the early
90s, i guess), and so on.
Robin in one of the TL lists. :)
Rep is for fun games, like...
!!/battle
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 275 vs. 230 David. So far, egreg is winning.
 
4:17 PM
@PauloCereda seems like all the users today just say thanks that works and move on without clicking anything:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes. :)
 
@PauloCereda speaking of TL: s/adobe/tlmgr/g
ALERT: Some pending mandatory software updates require version 21.1.2 of the Oracle/Sun Java(tm) JDK(tm) Update Manager Runtime Environment Meta-Updater, which is not available for your platform.
4
 
@DavidCarlisle LOL
 
4:31 PM
!!/fortune
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Here is your fortune: A cynic is only a frustrated optimist.
 
4:42 PM
is there a way to install a full LaTeX distribution on a smartphone with the OS android?
 
@DavidCarlisle: I saw the Duke of Edinburgh on television!
 
@PauloCereda Maggie's funeral? Not seen anything about that yet.
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, they were showin part the mass at St. Paul's.
 
@DominicMichaelis someone's working on it but it's a bit unfinished so far, I'll see if I can see the link
 
@DavidCarlisle I just know there is a i phone app (which costs money O_o)
 
Restoring laptop: will be on-and-off!
 
@JosephWright: @David and I have another project: buttercup
@JosephWright ooh good luck! :)
 
@PauloCereda Which is?
@PauloCereda Tar
 
@JosephWright We are still in that phase. :P
@Joseph: and we could create an instance of Apache BloodHound for L3 stuff. :)
 
5:49 PM
@egreg: What is the correct vertical adjustment for tex.stackexchange.com/a/109238/19356? The current implementation seems to work but the baseline is not exactly aligned as shown in the following screenshot.
 
6:19 PM
@GonzaloMedina tex.stackexchange.com/a/109256/16595 is one of the decorations that shouldn't be in a postaction, then the not-filling would work perfectly if it weren't for the arrow.
 
@PauloCereda: For you
@MarcoDaniel I successfully installed arara (which is really amazing), and used the following derectives: % arara: xelatex: { synctex: true } % arara: makeindex: { style: stylefile.ist } % arara: biber % arara: xelatex: { synctex: true } % arara: xelatex: { synctex: true } and this error can not be solved: \abx@ffd@*@labelalpha #1->\padded {#1} l.56 \endentry — Shea 14 mins ago
 
6:36 PM
@Bugbusters I'll give an eye.
 
7:07 PM
@MarcoDaniel Thankfully you saved my skin. :)
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Do you know why the arrows behave oddly with this kind of decoration? Is it meant to be applied only to straight lines? The following code shows the bad behaviour with arrows:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{tikz}
\usetikzlibrary{arrows,positioning,decorations.markings}

\begin{document}

\begin{tikzpicture}[]
\fill[orange] (-1,-4) rectangle (4.5,1);
\node(n1) {n1};
\node(n2) [below right=3cm and 3cm of n1] {n2};
\draw[-latex,decorate,decoration={markings,
  mark connection node=mynode,
  mark=at position .5 with {\node [transform shape,fill=orange] (mynode) {Text};}}] (n1) -- (n2);
\end{tikzpicture}

\end{document}
 
@PauloCereda Indeed! I'll be watching ;)
 
@cgnieder Uh-oh. :) If you want to be a tester, just ping us. :)
The more, the merrier. :)
@David is the Director of Operations for Breaking Things.
 
@PauloCereda compliment?
 
@MarcoDaniel Yes. :)
 
7:16 PM
@Bugbusters It's actually tricky to get completely right (you need LaTeX3 coffins) TeX boxes only have one alignment point so if you use [b] to put that alignment point on the bottom row then the spacing from the box above only knows there is a "big box" coming, it doesn't know the position of the first line within the box. So long as the first line doesn't have anything too big you can make assumptions that it is as big as mathstrut and it'll probably be OK in practice. (@egreg:-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Always. :)
 
@MarcoDaniel no
 
@DavidCarlisle <3
 
@PauloCereda What else?
 
@MarcoDaniel hm?
 
7:18 PM
@PauloCereda In German -- Was sonst? -- Something like: Of course. There isn't such a question.
 
@David: soon we will need testers for testing the tests our first front testers tested in our testing tool.
@MarcoDaniel ooh.
 
@MarcoDaniel Thanks Marco. BTW, arara is very cool. — Shea 1 min ago
 
@MarcoDaniel vvvv
 
@PauloCereda I indeed might... of course I'd have to take a closer look at what it's supposed to do first...
 
7:20 PM
If I knew a name picked at random - arara - would have a lot of feedback, I'd had used other name, like potato.
 
@DavidCarlisle I think I need to find an alternative combination first...
 
@cgnieder We are still investigating that too. :)
 
@PauloCereda :)
 
ooh more potatoes
 
7:28 PM
This was my first thought as I read potato ;-)
 
@Bugbusters I put some more code and pictures in my answer
 
hello to all :)
 
@cmhughes Hi Chris!
 
@PauloCereda Hi Paulo :) how's it going?:)
 
@cmhughes In a hurry. :) And you? :)
 
7:43 PM
@PauloCereda pretty good :) won't hold you up :)
 
@cmhughes Nah don't worry. :) I'm relaxing here. :)
 
@PauloCereda I'm using arara with TeXnicCenter at work- I made a tweak to pdflatex.yaml
command: <arara> pdflatex --interaction=nonstopmode @{action} @{draft} @{shell} @{synctex} @{options} "@{file}"
 
@cmhughes I think it's better to remove @{action} then. :)
 
@GonzaloMedina Exactly what I was talking about. No, I don't know. I guess the path is somehow divided into three parts: the one from the start to the marking node, the one from the marking node to the end, and a zero-distance final part from the end to the end (similar to \draw[->] (0,0) edge (1,1);). Erm, now that I have tried your code, that I haven't seen before. I guess the latex arrow has a big left extension.
 
@PauloCereda I wondered about that.... but if I leave @action then I can still use % arara: pdflatex: {action: errorstopmode} if I want it to stop on errors
 
7:49 PM
@cmhughes Nope, you'll have to --interaction's stuff. :) Hold on, I'll fix it. :)
!config
identifier: pdflatex
name: PDFLaTeX
command: <arara> pdflatex @{action} @{draft} @{shell} @{synctex} @{options} "@{file}"
arguments:
- identifier: action
  flag: <arara> --interaction=@{parameters.action}
  default: <arara> --interaction=nonstopmode
- identifier: shell
  flag: <arara> @{isTrue(parameters.shell,"--shell-escape","--no-shell-escape")}
- identifier: synctex
  flag: <arara> @{isTrue(parameters.synctex,"--synctex=1","--synctex=0")}
- identifier: draft
  flag: <arara> @{isTrue(parameters.draft,"--draftmode")}
@cmhughes: ^^ this one does the trick for you. :)
I simply added --interaction=nonstopmode to the default of action. :)
When action isn't provided as a directive argument, the default value will be used.
 
@PauloCereda ah yes, that's much better! :) kudos :)
@PauloCereda without this, the default rule can cause a bit of pain in TeXnicCenter, as pdflatex hangs and can only be stopped by opening up the Task Manager.
 
@cmhughes Hm I need to investigate that.
 
@PauloCereda it could just be my installation, so don't take it as gospel :)
 
On a side note, you can create a pdflatex.yaml and put it into a personal rules directory. When ararasearches for rules, the custom directories have higher priority than the default one.
 
@PauloCereda I my opinion it isn't the right way. In the file latex.ltx you can see the default mode \errorstopmode. If you change it in the rule the default settings are overwritten. In the case of @cmhughes you need a new rule ;-)
 
7:55 PM
@MarcoDaniel This guy.
^^ <3
 
@PauloCereda ;-(
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel nice answer! However, there seems to be a problem with certain paths; please try your code with
\begin{tikzpicture}
\node (A) {A}; \node at (10,0) (B) {B};
\draw[magenta, decorate me] (A) to[out=60,in=120] (B);
\draw[magenta, decorate me] (A) to[out=30,in=150] (B);
\draw[magenta, decorate me] (A) to[out=210,in=-30] (B);
\end{tikzpicture}
 
@GonzaloMedina Yes, that's the problem with using at position 1, here I needed to use -1pt. Have you seen the second answer, it uses \pgfdecoratedpathlength which seems a more robust way to get the path length. :|
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Yes, I saw the other answer and, in fact, seems more robust.
 
@GonzaloMedina Line 756 in pgfmoduledecorations.code.tex: \let\pgfdecoratedpathlength\pgf@decorate@totalpathlength. And it is even mentioned in the PGF manual!
 
8:01 PM
@Qrrbrbirlbel I need to start reading the sources for PGF... and the manual with more attention :-)
 
@GonzaloMedina Yeah, thankfully the manual only expanded to more than 1000 pages in the CVS version …
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel I still remember when it had 180 (if I recall correctly) pages.
 
@GonzaloMedina Before my time. ;) Has someone a copy from that manual?
 
@PauloCereda who is next to be interviewed? and when is your turn? :)
 
kan
@Qrrbrbirlbel I'd like to see it too. :)
 
8:05 PM
@Qrrbrbirlbel Let me see if I can find a link (it's still around there somewhere).
 
@GonzaloMedina @kan The sourceforge page has downloads from the 0.95 version with a manual of 194 pages
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel I didn't know it had a manual, I thought you had to pick it up from the source and \tracingall
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel That one seems to be the one I was talking about.
 
@MarcoDaniel Hey, I put a heart! <3
@cmhughes Nicola. :)
 
@PauloCereda It's a heart. Looks like two circumflex accents ;-)
 
8:14 PM
@MarcoDaniel Hey!
:)
 
kan
I am going to talk about Karmarkar's algorithm tommorrow!
 
@PauloCereda but when is your turn? :)
 
kan
Anything cool that I can show, apart from the Rosenbrock Banana Function? :)
@David might have comments about that ^^. :)
 
@cmhughes Someday. :)
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel hmmm... perhaps the one I first read was not that one... I don't remember that initial image. Perhaps it was the one from version 1.01 (but that one has more pages).
 
8:29 PM
Jul 16 '12 at 22:20, by David Carlisle
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@PauloCereda we have all the easy questions ready....
 
@DavidCarlisle Oh no! :)
 
looking at that permalink seems like it'll soon be a year that @PauloCereda's been avoiding the interview chair
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
kan
@David I did a \tracingall now! :-)
Enormous amount of data.
 
@kan interesting reading though, and for most packages more accurate than the manual.
 
kan
8:37 PM
@DavidCarlisle But, it is going to take me ages. I need a reference to understand what it is I am seeing.
Some of it is guessable, but not all.
 
!!/battle
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 275 vs. 230 David. So far, egreg is winning.
 
@PauloCereda no one is accepting anything today:(
 
kan
OK. I found one thing.
\MessageBreak <-> \relax.
 
@StefanKottwitz @JosephWright Do you mind unCWing this great answer?
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A: How to create magnified subfigures and corresponding boxes for portions of a large image

JakeHere's an example of using the spy library that Martin mentioned. I've written a couple of styles that can be used to create an array of magnficiations, with an arbitrary number of rows and columns, placed on any side of the original image, with specifiable gaps. The magnifications will take up t...

I guess too many edits made it CW
 
@kan actually tracingall is a bit confusing as it is several different trace outputs all jumbled up (the clue is in the name) normally you want \tracingmacros2 or \showoutput the tracing of the line breaking is a bit more arcane
 
8:41 PM
@percusse That's correct - from the edit history: "[made Community Wiki by Jake editing at least 10 times]"
 
@kan yes but not while making a message, then it is locally changed to \def\MessageBreak{^^J#1}% so it makes a newline and adds the package prefix
 
@percusse I'll ask Jake.
 
@StefanKottwitz Thank you.
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle Hmph. So, texdef is not reliable for knowing what a particular command is?
 
@percusse I think I saw a chicken!
 
kan
8:44 PM
\@latex@warning@no@line {You have requested release `1995/06/01' of LaTeX,\
MessageBreak but only release `\fmtversion ' is available}
 
@egreg Le coq sportif?
 
@percusse Allez la France!
 
@kan well if a command like \` or \protect` (or to a lesser extent \MessgeBreak which has a different definition in every context what would you have it do?
 
@egreg I hate the subliminal censorship but anyways :)
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle I was not complaining. I was only asking how I'd learn to interpret it correctly!
 
8:46 PM
Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité
 
@PauloCereda Is that a theorem?
 
@kan it shows you the definition at the initial state of a document.
 
@percusse \qed :)
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle Oh, sensible thing to do. :)
I am gonna read soure2e.
 
@kan latex.ltx is a quicker read, without all those distracting comments.
 
kan
8:49 PM
@DavidCarlisle Ooh! Thanks for the advice. :)
 
!!/fortune
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Here is your fortune: Use emacs.
Hey!
 
@percusse Yes, it's in italics
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle Wait! That was not real, was it? :)
 
!!/battle
 
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 275 vs. 230 David. So far, egreg is winning.
 
8:54 PM
@egreg hahahahaha
 
!!/eightball Was that a theorem?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
 
kan
@PauloCereda Eightball says that's a troll.
 
9:13 PM
!!/eightball O powerful Oracle, some unfaithful is saying you're a troll; are you?
 
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: cannot predict now.
 
@percusse looks like you've solved this one- fancy an answer? :)
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Q: PGFPlots error "Dimension too large" when plotting .csv data

andersonI did search on here for a solution and I did read the manual, but i couldn't find an answer (or at least one that I understood). I am plotting some data in a .csv file and for some reason when the x axis value goes above 930.08 it gives the error "Dimension too large". What is strange, though, ...

 
@cmhughes Oh thanks I missed that one. By the way....
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@kan well it's what I do but it perhaps doesn't suit everyone.
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle I tried reading the definitions. Needs pen and paper surely. :)
 
9:22 PM
@kan hmm pen, yes I remember those,
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle Well, well. :)
 
9:51 PM
can be closed TL (OP fixed it, he claims, although I have my doubts:-) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/109249/…
 
@percusse OMG
!!/eightball Are you a troll?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: without a doubt.
@percusse: online mode, sir. :)
 
10:16 PM
@PauloCereda I installed arara with the Windows installer. While installation the anti-virus program interfered and took arara.exe into its virus container. I informed the producer it would be a false-alarm with the information, that I downloaded from programmer's homepage (with link). One day later everything went fine! :-D
 
@Speravir ooh thanks! :) The .exe file is simply a wrapper to the .jar file, maybe that's why it was treated as something bad. :)
 
@cmhughes Yes, your Windows exe version does use the same mechanism like biber for production of the executable. So, expect the same issue, that sometimes the only cure consists in deleting the par<many-ciphers-and-letters> subfolder in %temp%. Also, for regular use I would need to set it twice (!) as exception in my anti-virus program. For testing I just confirmed the warning window popped up on every execution of both indent.exes (original one and in %temp%\par…` subfolder).
@PauloCereda Yes, that’s highly probable. The error message wrote something with “Windows.dropper [gen]” or something similar.
@cmhughes In other words: Apart from this all went fine!
Awesome image collection, two of the images are even semi (SIC!) on-topic here: Weird Animals.
 
10:35 PM
oooooh!
 
@Speravir The eleduck!
 
@egreg I was thinking of a duckphant. :)
 
@egreg @PauloCereda The actual name is a bit more misinterpretative …
 
!!/eightball Do these animals exist?
 
@Speravir Hmmm. :)
 
10:38 PM
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: my sources say no.
Oh no!
 
@PauloCereda Of these two statements one is true, because one is the negation of the other: "An existent unicorn exists" "An existent unicorn doesn't exist". Since an existent unicorn can't unexist, the second statement is false. Therefore the first statement is true. Thus an existent unicorn exists and we have proved the existence of unicorns.
(From Smullyan's "What is the name of this book?")
Not only it's badly kerned and has a zero instead of "O", but it's a bit useless.
Another one
 
10:54 PM
@egreg Haha most recent entry: “Keming: I wonder if they kerned the braille equally bad.” fuckyeahkeming.com/post/47706905357/…
 
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