TeX, LaTeX and Friends

12:01 AM

How can tikzpicture know its bounding box before its contents get processed as shown in the following example?

\only<1->{\begin{tikzpicture}}
	\draw<2-> (-1.5,0) -- (1.5,0);
	\draw<3-> (0,-1.5) -- (0,1.5);
\only<1->{\end{tikzpicture}}

egreg

12:31 AM

@JosephWright Concerning tex.stackexchange.com/questions/104482/… is it true that you need 5 rep points to answer? I had 1, when I answered the first time. And I see 1 rep users answering all the time.

David Carlisle

@egreg seems like you need 10 to answer straight away: ask or answer questions too rapidly

percusse

@Karl'sstudents you only need

\begin{tikzpicture}
	\draw<2-> (-1.5,0) -- (1.5,0);
	\draw<3-> (0,-1.5) -- (0,1.5);
 \end{tikzpicture}

Do you need to reserve the space for the picture?

Karl's students

@percusse Of course, without reserving the same space, the animation will have discontinuity in space.

But the problem is not about how to do this, the question is how beamer behind the scene manages this.

percusse

@Karl'sstudents It reads all the slides first then typesets the content

having <1-> is equal to not having any overlay specs. It means it will appear on all slides in that frame

Karl's students

Let's consider this because this one produces continuity.

\begin{tikzpicture}\pause
	\draw (-1.5,0) -- (1.5,0);\pause
	\draw (0,-1.5) -- (0,1.5);
\end{tikzpicture}

egreg

12:44 AM

@DavidCarlisle That's a different restriction: you have to wait some time before asking/answering a new question after the first. You're in no way restricted to answer with rep 1, AFAIK. I would I get in the site, otherwise? :)

percusse

@Karl'sstudents Also this

\documentclass{beamer}
\usepackage{tikz}
\begin{document}
\begin{frame}
\begin{tikzpicture}
	\uncover<2->{\draw (-1.5,0) -- (1.5,0);}
	\uncover<3->{\draw (0,-1.5) -- (0,1.5);}
 \end{tikzpicture}
\end{frame}
\end{document}

which is almost the same as pause, but you can change the order of appearance

in \pause things appear from top to bottom

David Carlisle

@egreg oh yes, I haven't got much rep from questions either:-)

cmhughes

@egreg thanks for your comment- sorry that I hadn't realized that. I'll delete my comment :)

Karl's students

Is it hard to change \uncover<>{} to \UNCOVER<> (for example) that must be placed like \pause?

percusse

@Karl'sstudents That's asking for trouble but one option is to define

\def\UNCOVER<#1>#2;{\uncover<#1>{#2;}}

But you can only have one ; for each \UNCOVER

Karl's students

12:57 AM

\begin{tikzpicture}
	\draw (-1.5,0) -- (1.5,0);\UNCOVER<2->
	\draw (0,-1.5) -- (0,1.5);\UNCOVER<3->
\end{tikzpicture}

percusse

So if you have two drawing commands it breaks down. The more complicated case is not trivial

Karl's students

This syntax that I meant.

percusse

@Karl'sstudents Nope that's not how beamer works

You can find all the overlay specs in Section 9 in the manual there are quite a few options

Karl's students

OK. Is it possible to hijack the listings to enclose \draw (1,1) -- (2,2); with \uncover<2->{} whenever it find \draw (1,1) -- (2,2); %\uncover<1-> ?

percusse

@Karl'sstudents I don't know enough listings to answer that.

But why do you insist on ending syntax instead of the regular usage?

You said you are going to teach people. This would confuse people a lot.

Karl's students

1:02 AM

@percusse Because it is more convenient

percusse

@Karl'sstudents It doesn't look like it from here though :)

Karl's students

@percusse Any %\uncover<1-> must not be rendered as the formatted code in the PDF output.

@percusse It is more convenient for me in preparing the material.

rather than enclosing the code with \uncover

The code becomes more cryptic if we enclose with \uncover.

but it becomes simpler if we just append \uncover at the end of line.

percusse

Maybe you should use showexpl

@Karl'sstudents I really think that would complicate the matter. You just need the code and it's output on the same page

So this looks like better

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Q: Beamer - Using \pause within lstlisting

I am preparing a beamer presentation and using the lstlisting environment in order to put in code. However, I would like to use the \pause command within lstlisting. By definition that is not possible. I am numbering the lines so it is bad if I just end and begin the environment again in order to...

Is this why you want to have line ending syntax?

Karl's students

@percusse I need more than \pause because tikzpicture cannot work just with \pause.

Try this:

\documentclass{beamer}
\usepackage{tikz}
\usepackage{showexpl}
\lstset
{
	breaklines=true,
	pos=r,
	basicstyle=\tt\scriptsize,
	numbers=none,
	preset=\centering,
	texcl=true,
}
\begin{document}
\begin{frame}[fragile]{Picture for Karl's students}
\LTXexample
\begin{tikzpicture}
	\draw (-1.5,0) -- (1.5,0);%\pause
	\draw (0,-1.5) -- (0,1.5);
\end{tikzpicture}
\endLTXexample

\end{frame}
\end{document}

The problems:

David Carlisle

@Karl'sstudents No it embeds the beamer markup in the listing and asks that it works on the preceding text: it's harder to read and much harder to implement, it's just weird. beamer is pretty weird but not that weird:-)

Karl's students

1:10 AM

1. \end{tikzpicture} got delayed.

@DavidCarlisle: It might be another alternate: In listings pipeline, inject the %\uncover to the line of code, execute it to produce the overlay, but discard before rendering the code. :D

2. % is still printed in the formatted code. It should be hidden.

@percusse: so what I want to do is:

\documentclass{beamer}
\usepackage{tikz}
\usepackage{showexpl}
\lstset
{
	breaklines=true,
	pos=r,
	basicstyle=\tt\scriptsize,
	numbers=none,
	preset=\centering,
	texcl=true,
}
\begin{document}
\begin{frame}[fragile]{Picture for Karl's students}
\LTXexample
\begin{tikzpicture}
	\draw (-1.5,0) -- (1.5,0);%\uncover<2->
	\draw (0,-1.5) -- (0,1.5);
\end{tikzpicture}
\endLTXexample

\end{frame}
\end{document}

David Carlisle

@Karl'sstudents you could do, but using a prefix syntax seems far better: latex has hundreds of commands and they all come before their arguments and take arguments in {} as you might have spotted I'm not terribly sympathetic to the idea of making these commands work as a suffix.

Karl's students

@DavidCarlisle Postfix notation make the code more readable :D

David Carlisle

@Karl'sstudents when you are writing PostScript yes, when you are writing tex where there are hundreds of other commands, all of which use a prefix syntax, then no.

Karl's students

1:31 AM

@JasperLoy: hi!

user19161

@Karl'sstudents Hello.

Karl's students

@JasperLoy How often do you change your display picture?

user19161

@Karl'sstudents No pattern, just whatever I feel like.

Karl's students

OK. Good!

@JasperLoy: I want to eat Nasi Lemak. :D

Daniel's solution is promising.

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A: How to make overlay still work inside lstlisting environment?

Even though xpert has already accepted the (frequently given) "use semiverbatim" answer by Herbert, I would like to present my listings-only solution here as well – for those like Tobi, who do not want to give up on syntax coloring and all the other cool features of the listings package. T...

percusse

@Karl'sstudents Also this one

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Q: Beamer: How to do src highlighting when src is split with \only<> command?

Thanks to Marc van Dongen there is a template of a "step by step" programming tutorial (with a sample layout in his question): How to create step by step annotated programming tutorial in LaTeX? . I wonder if it is possible to achieve similar functionality with source highlighting ? Simply cha...

beamer listings highlighting sourcecode

texenthusiast

3:28 AM

@Karl'sstudents Hi, It was answered by Herbet earlier, its the same question or any change ?

Karl's students

@texenthusiast Yes. it is still the same. Herbert's answer is downvoted by an unknown person.

texenthusiast

@Karl'sstudents did he delete it ? i have seen the good answer, it was fine for me, although i don't remember properly.

Karl's students

@texenthusiast There is one missing in his answer, the volume is not conserved. :-)

texenthusiast

@Karl'sstudents may be someone would have improved nothing is stable and constant

@Karl'sstudents i made myself in TikZ did you notice ?

Karl's students

@texenthusiast You were made by your parents. :-)

texenthusiast

3:38 AM

@Karl'sstudents one becomes what he sees, hears and thinks (built over the pgf parents)

Karl's students

@texenthusiast Did you mean your profile picture?

texenthusiast

@Karl'sstudents yep

Karl's students

@texenthusiast I though you created it with Microsoft PaintBrush.

texenthusiast

@Karl'sstudents i don't use MS often, linux inkscape or TikZ mostly

Karl's students

@texenthusiast I see.

I just finished eating a bowl of instant noodle with 4 eggs. :D

texenthusiast

3:42 AM

@Karl'sstudents i prefer crossplatform, pdflatex engine compatible tools

Karl's students

@texenthusiast latex is cross platform as well.

texenthusiast

@Karl'sstudents great, have a nice food.

Karl's students

Stephan Lehmke forgot to close his browser.

texenthusiast

@Karl'sstudents .tex --> .pdf route. no dvi

Karl's students

@texenthusiast pdftex can produce dvi I think

texenthusiast

3:45 AM

@Karl'sstudents pdftex become latex when .tex --> .dvi and it becomes pdflatex when .tex --> .pdf, executable is same, shortcuts change.

@Karl'sstudents did you get tex books via fedex ?

Karl's students

@texenthusiast I bought a medical equipment from US.

texenthusiast

@Karl'sstudents ok. great take care. all the best hero. i will leave then.

Karl's students

@texenthusiast :-) Thanks!

texenthusiast

@Karl'sstudents don't bleed rep i cant charge you as i may be off some time

Karl's students

@texenthusiast I don't understand this. :D

texenthusiast

3:53 AM

@Karl'sstudents guess, DRM

Karl's students

@texenthusiast I just know DRY.

texenthusiast

@Karl'sstudents ok then good night. bye

@Karl'sstudents may be good morning bye

Karl's students

@texenthusiast Thank you. Good night, bye!

Good evening bye!

texenthusiast

@Karl'sstudents may be good afternoon bye

Karl's students

OK. GOod afternoon, byE!

Canageek

4:12 AM

Hey

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A: Why is "...Cthulhu-worshipping madman?" a great question?

To be honest I have no idea. I just wanted to make a cool prop. The next thing I know it is mentioned on metafilter (which I missed), upvoted to heck, and I've got more karma then I know what to do with (which lets me help with the edit queue at least)

It seems someone things I'm getting unearned karma (Other then me I mean)

Karl's students

5:01 AM

There was a miracle. Someone might have upvoted my questions and answers blindly. :D tex.stackexchange.com/users/19356/karls-students?tab=reputation

Canageek

@Karl'sstudents Wow

Karl's students

@Canageek :-)

azetina

5:24 AM

Good day everyone!

Dominic Michaelis

7:28 AM

huhu

Karl's students

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Dominic Michaelis

hi again ^^

Karl's students

@DominicMichaelis Hi...

2 years later...

Joseph Wright

9:35 AM

latex-project.org/papers/tb106mittelbach-e-tex-revisited.pdf

For those who might miss the edit, @frankmittelbach has uploaded a paper based on his TUG2012 talk to the LaTeX3 website.

@PauloCereda will like the use of the expl3 logo

tohecz

10:03 AM

@Joseph When and where will you talk?

Joseph Wright

@tohecz Need to check with the group in France: the plan was the first Saturday in June, 'somewhere in Paris'

tohecz

@JosephWright oh saturday :( I'm arriving to France Sunday June 9

Joseph Wright

@tohecz I'll see if I can arrange a recording plus slides, as I did at UK-TUG

tohecz

@JosephWright ok :)

Paulo Cereda

10:37 AM

I`m terrible to be a newbie in LaTeX and go with trial and error in order to fix the code. :)

egreg

@PauloCereda Who doesn't? Heiko, perhaps.

tohecz

@PauloCereda and you are obviously terrible in using the correct apostrophes ;)

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Shut up. :)

tohecz

@PauloCereda ok, I'll try :)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg At least you guys somehow now what you are doing. :)

@tohecz Oh no, come back! <3

David Carlisle

12:39 PM

@PauloCereda do you want integer indexes at all or shouldn't your other lists be property lists (ie named structures) with the first being a list of names that can be used to index?

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle I'm open to suggestions. :)

I never thought of property lists.

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda if you want to index something by name a prop list is your friend, rather than having to reverse lookup the name in an array of names to find its integer index then use the integer. (of course I've forgotten all the l3 syntax but the issues are same whatever language:-)

egreg

@PauloCereda Or sequences; but perhaps plists are really handier in this case.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle I'll take a look. :) I thought of something like a hashmap, but I'm dumb. :)

@egreg Great answer, thank you! :) I really need to read the documentation. :)

@egreg: by the way, I think these parts should be

\NewDocumentCommand{\thematicindex}{ m m }{
   \vozes_getitemindex:Nn \l_vozes_abbreviations_clist { #1 }
   %\clist_item:Nn \l_vozes_extensions_clist { \l_vozes_index_step_int }
   \index[ \clist_item:Nn \l_vozes_extensions_clist {  \l_vozes_index_step_int } ]{ #2 }
}

\NewDocumentCommand{\printthematicindex}{ m }{
   \vozes_getitemindex:Nn \l_vozes_abbreviations_clist { #1 }
   %\clist_item:Nn \l_vozes_extensions_clist { \l_vozes_index_step_int }
   \printindex[ \clist_item:Nn \l_vozes_extensions_clist { \l_vozes_index_step_int } ]

tohecz

HELP! how do I convert EMF files to something reasonable?

Paulo Cereda

12:50 PM

@tohecz Perhaps ImageMagick convert can save you?

tohecz

@PauloCereda no it cannot :-(

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Oh no! Then Inkscape, perhaps?

@egreg: but then \printindex shouts an error. :)

tohecz

@PauloCereda neither. I think that I'll tell the author to provide PDF images :p

egreg

@PauloCereda Yes. You should expand it in advance. A fix is in the work.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Thanks. Sorry for the trouble. :)

@tohecz Dear God, EMF files! I think the meteor that killed the dinosaurs got rid of that awful format too.

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egreg

1:01 PM

@PauloCereda Sequences are best. See new version.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Thanks! :) I'm waiting for the site to refresh. :)

egreg

@PauloCereda Just replace every "clist" to "seq", basically. :)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Wow! :) Thank you again, it works like a charm. :) You know I'm out of votes, but I'll upvote and accept your answer ASAP. :)

I'm expecting @David's version with picturemode. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda I've written a brilliant version along those lines but unfortunately I can't work out how to save the file from vim.

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Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle :w :)

egreg

1:16 PM

@PauloCereda Actually property lists seem even better. I'll try doing it.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Don't worry, my friend. :) Your code is already awesome as it is. :)

David Carlisle

@egreg great idea, whoever suggested that?

egreg

1:30 PM

@PauloCereda Do you really need \getitemindex?

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Actually, no. :) It was just there for testing purposes. :) I'll remove from my MWE. :)

@egreg: WOW!

@DavidCarlisle: I know you love when users provide MWE: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/104547/warning-message

This one in particular is very minimal. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda and I've given it a nice grey background

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda STATUS BYDESIGN :-)

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright LOL

Hey guys, I'm thinking of creating a script called xiify. The name is self-explanatory, I guess. :)

@JosephWright: No more emails on the testing tool. :)

I feel lonely. :)

Joseph Wright

1:55 PM

@PauloCereda I'm waiting to see it in action ;-)

@PauloCereda Did you see the paper Frank posted?

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright I was still waiting for an spec, but no worries, I'll start the implementation. :)

@JosephWright Hm which one? :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda The one that got starred: latex-project.org/papers/tb106mittelbach-e-tex-revisited.pdf

@PauloCereda Ah yes

@PauloCereda I think for a prototype I'd go with your header stuff followed by 'test part' followed by 'model answer' part. We can tackle very long 'model answers' and so on later.

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Fine with me. :)

texenthusiast

2:25 PM

@PauloCereda Hi Is the Interview date announced for Leo Lui ?

Paulo Cereda

@texenthusiast Hi! :) Not yet, we need to contact him first. :)

texenthusiast

@PauloCereda Ok, Is there any calendar which usually flashes somewhere?

Joseph Wright

@texenthusiast On the main page: I add them to the Community Events

@leoliu Could you suggest a good date/time for being interviewed?

texenthusiast

@JosephWright ok. Thanks :)

Paulo Cereda

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Copyright 2013, The LaTeX3 Project
All rights reserved.

@JosephWright: ^^ So far, so good. :)

Joseph Wright

2:33 PM

@PauloCereda :-)

@PauloCereda At present, I imagine 'Paulo Cereda, The LaTeX3 Project'

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright No, they will go after me when code starts to fail! :)

tohecz

Nested *{<num>}{<spec>} in tabular --- holy fuck!!!

Paulo Cereda

I can still use foo@bar with xindy, can't I?

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda You can if you're using the texindy wrapper.

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Oh. I never used it before.

I have a special index with a TikZ code before each entry, so I need to go with foo@ \tikzstuff foo :)

Nicola Talbot

2:45 PM

@PauloCereda You wrote an arara directive for it :-)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot Oh my!

@NicolaTalbot Oh no, there's even a proof I did wrote it!

/runs

Nicola Talbot

@PauloCereda lol :-)

I have a feeling that xindy ignores (La)TeX control sequences when it sorts entries.

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot ooh!

tohecz

Yay, I'm suppposed to pay 13131 amount of money! What a nice palindrome! :)

Nicola Talbot

3:01 PM

@PauloCereda In this example, xindy ignores \ae :

% arara: pdflatex
% arara: texindy: { language: english }
% arara: pdflatex

\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{makeidx}

\makeindex

\begin{document}

Testing.

\index{æolian}
\index{\ae olian}
\index{aeolian}
\index{aardvark}
\index{arara}
\index{octopus}

\printindex

\end{document}

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot ooh that's cool!

@JosephWright: github.com/cereda/dandelion

egreg

@NicolaTalbot But it accepts UTF-8

Nicola Talbot

@egreg Yes it does, but I was just pointing out that xindy ignores control sequences. It was the first example that came to mind.

egreg

@tohecz It's nicer in crowns than in euros, if you have to pay. ;-)

tohecz

@egreg indeed

texenthusiast

3:19 PM

@PauloCereda your expl3 logo is awesome , is it done using TikZ

tohecz

3:30 PM

@texenthusiast It seems that @Paulo has some sort of addiction to birds ;)

David Carlisle

@tohecz at least he didn't give us the famous duck as an L3 logo

tohecz

@DavidCarlisle would it be wrong? :)

Paulo Cereda

@texenthusiast Metapost. :)

@tohecz The hummingbird was incidental. I think it was suitable for L3. :)

texenthusiast

@PauloCereda one of the best, i remember using hummingbird exceed long ago X-Windows

Paulo Cereda

bitbucket.org/cereda/tikzpgf-builds/src

^ New TikZ build.

Nicola Talbot

4:07 PM

% arara: pdflatex
\documentclass[10pt]{article}
\usepackage[a4paper,portrait,top=98.488853bp,left=172.84462bp,width=173.208359bp,height=173.85746bp]{geometry}
\usepackage{pgf}
\pagestyle{empty}
\begin{document}\noindent
\begin{pgfpicture}{0bp}{0bp}{173.208359bp}{173.85746bp}
\begin{pgfscope}
\pgfsetlinewidth{1.0bp}
\pgfsetrectcap
\pgfsetmiterjoin \pgfsetmiterlimit{10.0}
\pgfpathmoveto{\pgfpoint{44.963971bp}{45.735484bp}}
\pgfpathcurveto{\pgfpoint{55.264464bp}{44.611793bp}}{\pgfpoint{61.070196bp}{43.300822bp}}{\pgfpoint{69.872434bp}{41.428005bp}}

@PauloCereda ^^^ :-)

Paulo Cereda

@NicolaTalbot WOW! WOW!

N3buchadnezzar

what is it? It compiles, but I cant quite make out what it is.

Nicola Talbot

@N3buchadnezzar My code? It's an arara.

The beak could do with a bit of improvement.

N3buchadnezzar

Now i see it!

I thought it was half man-half fish...

Nicola Talbot

@N3buchadnezzar I need to improve my drawing skills :-)

N3buchadnezzar

4:17 PM

It is a lot better than some of my drawings

Karl's students

One user was removed about 4 minutes ago.

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright: at least my code is somehow interesting:

-- Bad dog, bad dog!
else
...

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Q: Latex report wrong error line when enclosing thing within a macro

I like to write my latex c++ style 1 \mydisplay 2 { 3 \BoomUndefinedMacro \\ 4 x + 1 = 2 5 } But then Latex, Latex say that the error is in line 5, instead of line 3. This is not useful, because in more involved use case, there are a hundred line in the display. Is there a work around...

macros

I like when people blame LaTeX for everything. :)

David Carlisle

5:17 PM

@PauloCereda especially if you can blame latex 2.09 so it's not my fault : tex.stackexchange.com/questions/105585/latex2e-makebox-hbox/…

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle :)

@DavidCarlisle: Welcome to the team!

I hereby grant you the title of Official Bug Reporter. :)

Alan Munn

5:45 PM

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Q: How to use non-alphabetical symbols respectively characters like '<' and '>' in Tikz qtree node labels?

I am trying to use label nodes for a tikz qtree that include the lower-than < and greater-than > characters like shown in the first node of the example below. The problem is that instead of showing < and > some other strange symbols are presented - see first node label of the picture...

tikz-pgf symbols nodes tikz-qtree

Should this question be retagged to remove the tikz tags?

Paulo Cereda

Yay, @Alan is here!

Alan Munn

Should tags reflect what the OP thinks the problem is or what the problem is?

Paulo Cereda

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Alan Munn

@PauloCereda Thanks, Paulo. Kind of a hit and run today even. I've been pretty busy, so no time for chat or much else around here.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn I can understand. :) I'm in a hurry too. :)

David Carlisle

5:48 PM

@AlanMunn well it's closed as duplicate so the tags don't matter much do they? (shame, I could have answered that and got some tikz-pgf points)

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle Well they still lead people to the question perhaps. Since the question has nothing to do with the tags it's better not to lead tikz-qtree users to it.

David Carlisle

@AlanMunn yes probably true, certainly no harm in removing them

Paulo Cereda

@Alan: I mentioned about the Portuguese word for a "second hand book store" yesterday, and I thought of you. :)

@DavidCarlisle: don't erase the repository. <3

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda I used git once so it should be safe in my hands...

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda I have some more ducks to show you, but my phone doesn't seem to like to upload to Picasa any more.

Paulo Cereda

6:01 PM

@DavidCarlisle Seems legit. :)

@AlanMunn ooh! :)

Alan Munn

I have to go again. Bye for now.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn See ya, Alan!

Dominic Michaelis

6:32 PM

i want to use arctan in tikz but it only gives me errors :(

Marco Daniel

6:48 PM

@PauloCereda: I saw your L3 question. Nice.

Paulo Cereda

@MarcoDaniel Danke. :) I really want to learn how to use it. :)

Because I need to test it too. :P

Karl's students

Other than reaching the daily upvote limit of 200, what else makes the reputation counter stop increasing?

wiki type answer is not in the scope of my question above for sure!

Marco Daniel

@PauloCereda I think l3prop is the best choise ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@MarcoDaniel @David's idea, @egreg's implementation. :)

Marco Daniel

7:04 PM

@PauloCereda great work @egreg and @DavidCarlisle :-)

Karl's students

7:16 PM

Congratulation: Now the related and linked questions have a new feature, i.e., there is a vote score label on the left.

Paulo Cereda

7:50 PM

@JosephWright: expect some code. :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda :-)

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Not so fast, of course. :)

topskip

8:31 PM

for @PauloCereda:

youtube.com/watch_popup?v=9hnbmml8fOY&hd=1

(I guess you've seen that already)

Paulo Cereda

@topskip Wow!

Peter Grill

what is the bash equivalent of cshs's \!*? As in "alias cd 'cd \!* ; ls'"

David Carlisle

@PeterGrill so long since I did csh what's it do?

Peter Grill

trying to pass in a parameter to an alias.

David Carlisle

use a function then

Peter Grill

8:45 PM

really, I need a function for something like that?

so "cd foo" would become "cd foo; ls"

really, I need a function for something like that?

David Carlisle

@PeterGrill well it's only a name: aliases with parameters are called functions in bash

cyberciti.biz/faq/bash-shell-script-function-examples

Peter Grill

Ok, so it seems that bash aliases do not accept paramters

@DavidCarlisle Ok, will look thru that. But trying really hard to not tell my friend to simply use csh where things like this are simple. :-) Thanks...

egreg

@PauloCereda David "it's not my fault" Carlisle is the mind, egreg the arm

2

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Fantastic! :)

David Carlisle

@PeterGrill not sure it's any more complicated, just different:

function foo() {
cd $1; ls
}

egreg

8:53 PM

@PeterGrill No, this is a great nuisance for tcsh users. :)

topskip

@DavidCarlisle if you leave out the 'function' its even portable (IIRC) among different shells (dash for example)

David Carlisle

@PeterGrill seems to me $1 is a lot clearer for first parameter than \!* weirdness.

Peter Grill

9:40 PM

@DavidCarlisle Yeah, lost internet where I was so didn't see your follow up post until now, but did eventually figured it out. Was worried that it needed to be an external file with the function, but since the function can just be in the aliases file things worked great.

@egreg :-) I know, old habits are hard to give up... Just didn't want to contaminate a new Unix user so made the effort to get him up on bash...

David Carlisle

@PeterGrill you could add a function defining vim to be a function/alias for emacs at same time:-)

Peter Grill

@DavidCarlisle :-) Hey, he is a new user. Have to go gentle for now. :-)

moose

Can a moderator please convert my question "beautiful beamer presentations" convert into a wiki?

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright: ooh the code is close to doing something really useful! :)

@moose Speaking of which, in my really humble opinion, if the answer cannot have the full .tex source, I don't feel it should be added. Nice question, though. :)

egreg

@PauloCereda A user in it.comp.software.tex (low traffic NG) asked how to integrate a WinEdt feature into Vim. Strangely enough I declined answering.

Paulo Cereda

9:54 PM

@egreg Oh no! :) vim is not user-friendly for configurating stuff. Well, not user-friendly at all. :)

@egreg: By the way, I should add you as a collaborator in the dandelion repo, just for the fun of it. :)

David is included, I'm afraid he'll mess the whole code (or fix it, either one option is good). :)

Karl's students

@moose: Our moderators are not in this chat room apparently. You can use the flag button instead.

google.com/trends/…

@speravir: Your cat:

moose

@Karl'sstudents: OK, thank you (BTW. Using chat via phone doesn't really work...)

Karl's students

@moose This chat room does not support voice.

N3buchadnezzar

11:01 PM

Hi

mafp

11:14 PM

Are you kidding me? 136 first posts to review?

Werner

Something just got fixed:

Speravir

@mafp I got 140.

Werner

This could be related to:

13

Q: Is the "First Posts" review queue partially broken?

Since March 19th, the number of reviewable "First Posts" has declined considerably. At first I suspected a yet-to-be-announced feature change in the review system, e.g. "First Posts" that receive votes or comments after a few minutes won't show up in the review queue anymore (i.e., are considered...

support bug review-page

Speravir

@Karl'sstudents ;-) No, also not this one:

►

Karl's students

@Speravir Nice animation!

Speravir

11:24 PM

BTW since @Qrrbrbirlbel asked: Katzenbilder (Attention, cat content).

N3buchadnezzar

Is it possible to combine pgfmathparse, siunitx and tables?

David Carlisle

@N3buchadnezzar sinitxtafblespmathparuseg

N3buchadnezzar

^^

I just tried it using S columns and ran into a bus.

David Carlisle

@N3buchadnezzar you mean with numbers coming from pgf, not entered directly in the table?

N3buchadnezzar

@DavidCarlisle Yeah

I could post a MWE, but I will try a tad more myself =) The basic gist of what I am trying to do is given below

`\newcommand{\prs}[2]{\pgfmathparse{#2*100/#1} \pgfmathresult}

\newcommand{\KarakterGrenser}[6]{%
\begin{table}[!hbp]
\sisetup{
table-figures-integer = 3,
table-figures-decimal = 1}
\caption*{\textbf{ Karaktergrenser} }
\begin{tabular}{l c*{6}}
\toprule
{Karakter } & 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 6 \\ [1ex]\midrule
{I Poeng } & & #2 & #3 & #4 & #5 & #6 \\ [1ex]\midrule
{I prosent} & & \prs{#1}{#2} & \prs{#1}{#3} & \prs{#1}{#4} & \prs{#1}{#5} & \prs{#1}{#6} \\ [1ex]

Karl's students

11:42 PM

Is there a PDF file (in TeX distro) that we can use out of the box to avoid using an external file when making MWE?

Speravir

@Karl'sstudents Package mwe (made by one of our moderators).

David Carlisle

you probably don't want to use a S column in that case but rather use \expandafter\si\expandafter{\pgfmathresult} where \si is whatever command you are supposed to use to format a number to a fixed number of decimal places, then use an r column

Karl's students

@Speravir Compilation failed.

\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{pdfpages}

\begin{document}
\includepdf{mwe}
\end{document}

Could not find the file...

Speravir

@Karl'sstudents No, I said package mwe. The pdf files are named example…pdf.

Karl's students

I meant I need a multi-page PDF.

David Carlisle

11:47 PM

@Karl'sstudents as @Speravir said mwe which is in recent texlive at least, or if you don't want to assume people have that, grfguide makes use of filecontents:

\begin{filecontents*}{a.ps}
%!
%%BoundingBox:100 100 172 172
100 100 moveto
72 72 rlineto
72 neg 0 rlineto
72 72 neg rlineto
stroke
100 100 moveto
/Times-Roman findfont
72 scalefont
setfont
(A) show
showpage
\end{filecontents*}

\documentclass{ltxguide}

Karl's students

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{pdfpages}

\begin{document}
\includepdf[pages=1-3]{listings}
\end{document}

should produce the first 3 pages of listings documentation.

But it fails to compile.

David Carlisle

@Karl'sstudents only if the pdf file is in the tex input path, which it would not be usually

Speravir

@DavidCarlisle @Karl'sstudents The problem for MiKTeX users is, that this distro does exclude the doc subfolder from its filename data base.

Karl's students

@Speravir I am using TeX Live 2012

Speravir

@Karl'sstudents Ah, but I thought you want to help someone.

Karl's students

11:52 PM

The same happens in TeX Live, I failed to compile the prev code.

David Carlisle

@Karl'sstudents I wouldn't expect that doc pdf is in the tex input path by default in any distribution.

Karl's students

@DavidCarlisle No problem, but at least MWE package also provide a multi-page PDF.

MWE sometimes needs a multi-page PDF file as follows:

3

A: Include PDF with two pages per page

As mentioned by JLDiaz, you should use the nup option. According to the pdfpages documentation, the syntax of the option is: nup=⟨xnup⟩x⟨ynup⟩, where ⟨xnup⟩ and ⟨ynup⟩ specify the number of logical pages in horizontal and vertical direction. You may also want to use the angle option in order to r...