TeX, LaTeX and Friends

12:16 AM

Can someone help me with this problem: I would like to move all the files that turn up in a particular search to be moved to a file.

David Carlisle

@kan you mean concatenate them to one file?

kan

mv -v find . -iname "galois"` galois`

@DavidCarlisle No, move them to a directory, sorry, not a file (my bad).

David Carlisle

@kan that moves all the files called galois (case insensitive) to galois (so will try to move the target to itself)

kan

@DavidCarlisle Oh, I see the problem now.

egreg

@kan Change the name of the directory and revert the name after moving the files. But beware that if the list is long, things can go wrong. Using xargs is usually recommended in this case; or add an action to find.

kan

12:27 AM

@egreg The first sentence is what I did. The list cannot possibly go wrong, as there are around 14 files only...

I don't know what xargs is.

David Carlisle

@kan it's a utility for handling long lists of arguments, as typically generated by find (but I usually prefer using -exec myself)

egreg

Wouldn't find . -iname galois\* -exec mv -v {} RENAMED \; be better?

Where RENAMED stands for the provisional name you gave to the target directory

David Carlisle

@egreg well you changed the list from files named galois to files whose name starts with galois which avoids the problem of the target matching but is a different operation isn't it?

kan

@egreg Now, I think I understand what you want there... actually, I was trying to do this with pipe.

And failed, of course.

egreg

@DavidCarlisle It seems that this is what @kan is trying to do.

percusse

12:32 AM

Does anyone know a reference for printing patterns on the page edges such that when pages are stacked on top of each other a picture forms? I think I'm coming close to a package for that. But I don't know about the printer conventions. Right now I'm assuming that the pages are going to be cut down to a smaller size.

You might ask who might need this and I'd say probably noone.

I'm trying to replicate the shoulder of the book in the open end too.

kan

@DavidCarlisle Well, won't the target still be matched because, after all, it starts with galois too (in my case, of course, as @egreg has made it RENAMED)?

Max

Is this chan actually backed by an irc and which one if so?

percusse

@Max chat.stackexchange.com/faq#irc

Speravir

12:57 AM

@JosephWright @MartinScharrer @StefanKottwitz I made an edit on the CW answer to LaTeX Introductions in languages other than English and noticed an error for a link to a Russian resource (doubled link to another already mentioned publication).

So I made a web search with what was given and now I’m confused: I found and added a link for “LaTeX 2e по-русски (2004) by И. Котельников and П. Чеботаев”, but there is also labirint.ru/books/277560 with a commercial version of 2011. Do you have any chance to ask other, Russian speaking moderators for help (isn’t there a “Russian language and usage”?), whether the version of 2004 is in fact also commercial and so the link illegal?

David Carlisle

@kan yes sorry was thinking the pattern forced a non-empty suffix bit of course it doesn't

kan

@Speravir Got to love the Russians.

Speravir

@kan The “funny” thing is: The linked PDF file is on a university server.

kan

@Speravir I have had experiences too.

On the Course page, the book was linked.

Speravir

@kan A book written by you?

kan

1:05 AM

@Speravir Noooooooo... For the record, I am still an undergraduate student.

Speravir

@kan Aah, this way round …

kan

(not to say, undergrads won't write books; but usually, they don't.)

leo

!!/answer how are you?

David Carlisle

@leo Psmith sneaks off to play Cricket when @PauloCereda isn't around to supervise.

leo

@DavidCarlisle just noted

Speravir

1:46 AM

@leo What is your problem with EPS and MiKTeX?

leo

@Speravir Have a document with some EPS images. I compile and get errors that in short says that LaTeX do not know what EPS is

Speravir

@leo For EPS you need an engine drive, where EPS is allowed, otherwise it must be converted first into an allowed image format, the best of should PDF. Cf. this answer of Heiko Oberdiek. For pdftex there is epstopdf, also from Heiko, what in MiKTeX must explicitly be included.

@leo: See this answer of mine: Including pdf figures in Latex document using TexnicCenter It does not matter, that is was meant for TeXnicCenter.

leo

2:02 AM

@Speravir I know that. I compile the same document with pdftex using TeXLive and the image are converted to PDF without problem. When compiling with MikTeX and it does not work, just give errors

Speravir

@leo Aah, then I cannot help without an example. Perhaps the MiKTeX version of epstopdf needs an update, but we need some proof first. Ask a question on the main site (what perhaps will be closed as too localized) or (only if you are sure) go to sourceforge.net/p/miktex/bugs and describe the issue well (again said: with example is the best).

leo

@Speravir I'll see if I can prepare an example and I'll ping you if I post it on main

Thanks for ask :-)

Speravir

@leo BTW see my remark in tex.stackexchange.com/a/86949

Dennis

2:23 AM

Hey guys, I'm trying to modify a .cls file (philosophersimprint.cls) and am running into all sorts of issues. I didn't want to ask a question about it because it seemed like the sort of thing that was too specific to my own needs to be of general interest. Is this the appropriate place to ask for help (never used chat on TeX.SE before), and would someone be able and willing to help?

David Carlisle

@Dennis well you can ask, but if it involves showing any amount of code, it's better to ask on site as formatting here is very limited

Dennis

@DavidCarlisle Ok, reasonable enough. But, modifying a .cls file would be appropriate for main site? I'm just worried that I'll have the question closed for not being of wide enough interest. Is that the sort of thing that I should just go for and if people complain, delete the question? I'm always a bit confused about etiquette.

David Carlisle

@Dennis same class as this? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/66866/…

Dennis

@DavidCarlisle yes

Speravir

@DavidCarlisle Ha, I just was going to write, that on this time not many people are active here, especially the TeXnicians, but after your reply I decided to cancel this. ;-)

Dennis

2:35 AM

@DavidCarlisle I'm just looking to preserve their formatting (because I like the set-up) but change a few things; e.g., get rid of the title page and journal identifying info, switch to 1 column, and go to a portrait orientation

David Carlisle

@Dennis well it depends what kind of mod it is of course if it is changing (say) heading or title layout it's just standard fare for this site same issues really whatever the class, if it is something really specific then less so, but probably better to ask on site (I may not answer but there must be someone in the world for whom it isn't 2.30 in the morning:-)

Dennis

@DavidCarlisle but the .cls file isn't marked with comments like some and it is a bit more complicated than other (simple) .cls's I've successfully modded

@DavidCarlisle ok thanks for the advice, i'll create a question

David Carlisle

if you are looking at the .cls it has been stripped of comments as usual for latex, you want teh originakl documented source eg anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/…

@Dennis ^^^

Dennis

@DavidCarlisle ah ok, that makes sense, i'll take a look and see if i can figure out how to do what i want from the documentation. otherwise i'll post a question. thanks for the help. don't want to keep you up at 2:30 am!

David Carlisle

night all...

Dennis

2:40 AM

night

leo

@DavidCarlisle sleep well

Gigili

7:06 AM

Hullo. How do you pronounce "TeX" and "LaTeX"?

Oh never mind, I found the question on main!

Werner

@Gigili This is contained in the first couple of paragraphs of the TeX Book.

Gigili

@Werner Right, I've always pronounced the 'x' as an English 'x' and not like German 'ch' sound!

TIL, thanks anyway.

Hendrik Vogt

8:48 AM

@Max Thanks -- I was wondering today where the upvotes came from, and it appears that it was due to your link :-)

Adorable Creature

9:26 AM

For all: If we have to categorize the existing packages into some groups, what groups do you propose?

Stephan Lehmke

@AdorableCreature This requires thought, and is thus not suited for chat. If it doesn't already exist, it would make a good big list question, especially as some pretty useful tags could come out of it.

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