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percusse
percusse
12:49 AM
- [LaTeX Nice abs?](http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/59108/latex-nice-abs)
- Try ABshaper...
 
Peter Grill
Peter Grill
1:01 AM
@percusse :-) Seems like we need an infomercial for that.
 
 
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Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
4:05 AM
@FrankMittelbach You made my day! Seems I'll be switching to LuaTeX ASAP after all :-)
This is really excellent news. Now next I'll look whether LuaTeX also offers something comparable to my next greatest wish, an \expanded primitive ;-)
 
 
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Frank Mittelbach
Frank Mittelbach
7:38 AM
@StephanLehmke and this is supposed to work how?
@egreg yes those are all hard stuff - I remember your article in TUB :-)
 
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@FrankMittelbach Well like \unexpanded, only upon expansion it returns its argument fully expanded. Even better: \startexpanding, when expanded, will fully expand every subsequent token until it reaches \stopexpanding.
 
Frank Mittelbach
Frank Mittelbach
8:05 AM
@StephanLehmke but in which context? inside \undexpanded or elsewhere?
 
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
8:30 AM
@FrankMittelbach No I was thinking of a new primitive with this semantics. But I'm afraid LuaTeX won't help much here because there's no "interface" between two TeX components one could hook into to achieve this effect.
 
egreg
egreg
9:29 AM
@StephanLehmke Perhaps you can add something to the \expandafter answer: I think the OP is looking for a way to "expand" some assignments, so it may be worthy to explain that one expansion is performed and that assignments are not expandable. See this question: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/59118/difficulty-with-write
The OP is specialized in XY questions.
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Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@egreg I added a bit, but to see assignments behind this question is beyond my precognitive abilities. Would be a super application for my \expanded primitive btw ;-)
If the OP is not satisfied he must elaborate.
 
egreg
egreg
@StephanLehmke I've a long string of answers to his questions. :) The addition seems OK.
 
lockstep
lockstep
10:32 AM
One more vote needed to close:
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Q: Table with horizontal line that doesn't span all columns

Abhimanyu AroraI need to recreate table 12 of this document manually (because unfortunately this automatic program doesn't seem to work properly). I think a unique aspect is a horizontal line that doesn't span all columns.

tables rules
 
egreg
egreg
@lockstep Sorry, already voted.
 
lockstep
lockstep
How about closing this one as exact duplicate?
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Q: automating compilation

morgonI am fairly new to latex and would like to automate my workflow (creating pdfs from a beamer/listings/tkiz source). What I want is a script to automatically recompile the source and reload the resulting pdf in acrobat whenever my code changes. Of course this is easy to do however I have one issu...

pdftex
 
Frank Mittelbach
Frank Mittelbach
in case somebody knows where i went wrong (or not) ...
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Q: \lastnodetype not working as expected in luaTeX

Frank MittelbachI'm currently experimenting with the linebreak_filter of luatex and when using it to change/replace the linebreaking algorithm the \lastnodetype command stopped working. A MWE is the following: \def\partest{% \directlua{% function hpackparagraph (head) return node.hpack(head) ...

luatex e-tex
 
Martin Scharrer
Martin Scharrer
11:23 AM
tug.org/texlive says the final TeX Live 2012 image should be ready by tomorrow. Will it then be available for download immediately (or soon after)?
I vaguely remember that it took longer last time, but I'm not sure.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle: I have a serious conflict in one of my projects due to a bug in a library. The solution? Export data to XML. <3
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
11:49 AM
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
12:15 PM
Awesome answer! This is what I call a TikZ lumberjack! Leaping from node to node as they float down the mighty tikzpicture of a LaTeX document! \the\fir! \the\larch! \the\redwood! \the\mighty\scotspine! \the\plucky\little\aspen! \the\great\limping\rude\tree\of\nigeria! The smell of fresh paths! The crash of mighty nodes! With the TikZ manual by my side, we'd sing, SING!
 
percusse
percusse
12:31 PM
@PauloCereda Ahaha, I need a dictionary to appreciate this but thanks though. Did you work in a paper factory before by any chance ? :-)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@percusse I stole from the Lumberjack sketch. :P
 
percusse
percusse
@PauloCereda Captain's log 9 June 2012. Another great joke has been destroyed by sheer ignorance.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@percusse <3
I'd link to the original Lumberjack sketch, but this one is cooler because of the explosions: P
 
percusse
percusse
@PauloCereda Talk about job satisfaction.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@percusse LOL
 
percusse
percusse
12:36 PM
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A: Tikz'spicture: problems positioning shapes inside nodes and arrow's tips in the middle of the line

percusseHere is a very simple construction of the circled resistor: \documentclass[border=2mm]{standalone} \usepackage{tikz} \usetikzlibrary{circuits.ee.IEC,decorations.markings} \begin{document} \begin{tikzpicture} \node[anchor=west,shape=var resistor IEC,minimum width=1cm,draw,outer sep=0] (heater){}...

Can I have one vote to clear it from the unanswered list
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@percusse Voted. :)
 
percusse
percusse
Yay, Thanks a lot....
*1e6 questions of TikZ questions on the wall, 1e6*
*one down and pass it around, 1e6-1 questions of TikZ on the wall.*
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@percusse LOL I love that song. :)
 
percusse
percusse
@PauloCereda and I couldn't even write it properly eheh.
Wow rpapa is including bilingual questions tex.stackexchange.com/questions/59157/problem-with-gnuplot . Feels like Canada (or Belgium :P).
 
egreg
egreg
12:54 PM
@percusse +1 for the bilinguism. :) Happily it wasn't Belgium: I can understand some French, but no Dutch (which is a throat disease, some say).
This is a dontdoit question
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Q: Boxes overflow column

ExpertNoobIt's all in the subject. I used all kinds of boxes in a towcolumn article, but whenever the boxed text is long enough, the box happily continues into the other column! Is there a "smart" box that "follows" the text, like the blue one aroung URLs ? Sample document: \documentclass[10pt,twoside,t...

line-breaking boxes
 
percusse
percusse
@egreg Ahaha, nice comment!
 
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@egreg It seems your warning example has been wasted ;-)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Best comment ever! :D
@percusse Speaking of two idioms, have you ever watched Ice Age? I think it's the second or third movie. There's a line in there that comes to my mind every time I write stuff in two languages. :) When Sid built a playground for kids, he said to Diego: "This is Campo del Sid! It means Camp of Sid." Then Diego said, "Congratulations, you are now an idiot in two languages!"
 
percusse
percusse
1:11 PM
@PauloCereda Actually, not to sound like a pedophile :) but my girl;friend and I go to the morning sessions of those movies. It becomes triple funny with all the kids going nuts around you. I've heard the funniest things like two boys talking to each other The screen is too big for us, you watch the left side and me the right then we will tell each other. !!??
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@percusse LOL!!
 
egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda The radio was playing the Heroic symphony by Beethoven. :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg How nice! I love it! I like the allegro part in the 3rd moviment. :)
 
egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda Now it's at the C major insert in the second movement. I always remember when Riccardo Muti and the Filarmonica della Scala played the symphony in Serajevo in 1997, after the war.
 
Ilya
Ilya
1:42 PM
anybody around? Should I ask for the template of the article-style .tex file with these fonts on main page, or somebody here can help me?
I tried to find how to incorporate these fonts, but wasn't successful in this
 
egreg
egreg
2:06 PM
@Ilya \usepackage{eulervm}?
 
Ilya
Ilya
if I use it, there are even no $=$ signs
they are gone
@egreg: I just want to put this text


Let $(E,\e)$ be an arbitrary measurable space, which is meant to be the state space of a dtMP. For each $n\in \N_0$ the space of trajectories of the process of the horizon $n$ we define as $(\Omega_n,\f_n)$ where $\Omega_n = E^{n+1}$ and $\f_n = \e^{\otimes (n+1)}$ is its product $\sigma$-algebra.

Into a desired font.

Here \e is $\mathcal E$ and \f is $\mathcal F$
maybe you could help if you have time
 
egreg
egreg
@Ilya Sorry, no time now. But if all you want are the script letters, then \usepackage{eucal} will turn \mathcal into using Euler calligraphic letters.
 
Ilya
Ilya
@egreg should I use both of these packages?
 
Patrick Gundlach
Patrick Gundlach
2:40 PM
@FrankMittelbach no idea. I've mentioned Taco so he sees the question next time he's here.
 
Brent.Longborough
Brent.Longborough
@PauloCereda ... to paraphrase the old quote, "now you have two serious conflicts".
@PauloCereda To (almost) quote Rudyard Kipling, "it's clever, but is it typography?"
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
2:55 PM
@BrentLongborough LOL I agree. :P
@Brent: I'm porting my songbook to memoir. I can't believe I missed it for so much time. :)
 
Martin Scharrer
Martin Scharrer
3:55 PM
@PauloCereda: Wrote another (small) package: bitbucket.org/martin_scharrer/gobble
I keep needing some of these macros in several of my packages.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@MartinScharrer How nice! packages["martin"]++. :)
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Q: Latex Warning:Citation undefined

xiao 啸I was trapped by this citation for a long time. All my citations in bib suddendly didn't work and tex make told me there are not found in my bib. My main tex file is as following: \begin{document} \frontmatter \maketitle \include{chap/copyright} \include{chap/abstract} ...

citing
When I read the title, I was very happy! "Yay another use for checkcites!" Then I read the question. :P
 
Brent.Longborough
Brent.Longborough
4:12 PM
@PauloCereda Fantastic. IIRC, memoir has some built-in facilities for verse and its tweaking...
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@BrentLongborough Actually, I'm using a package named songs because I can typeset the songs with chords and the choose the type of the book (lyric or chorded). But I'm having so much fun with memoir, it's very easy to make things happen. :)
@Brent: This is one of the chapters I have: i.stack.imgur.com/FB96G.png :)
 
 
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Peter Grill
Peter Grill
5:36 PM
@egreg: Have updated to include a gather solution. I tend to always use align so don't have to think about whether I need alignment points or not. Is there an advantage to using gather as opposed to align?
 
egreg
egreg
@PeterGrill You've earned +1. :) Yes, there are differences; for instance, gather is much faster than align.
I believe that it's best to always use the proper tool.
 
Peter Grill
Peter Grill
@egreg well, no I don't get the +1, this is another one of those days where I wake up to a rep cap :-) By faster you mean in processing time?
@egreg Agreed, but unless there is a real disadvantage I usually tend to go with the solution that needs less thinking time.... Again, thanks for the corrections...
 
egreg
egreg
@PeterGrill Yes: there's no need to setup complicated alignment points. And a two line align without an alignment point is definitely wrong. Actually, equation should have been used.
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
5:52 PM
1:0 for Denmark ;-)
 
egreg
egreg
@MarcoDaniel Are there Danes or Dutch here?
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
@egreg I don't know but it's good for Germany ;-)
 
percusse
percusse
@egreg I am among the Dutch supporters
That group is not fair. :)
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
@percusse Indeed
 
egreg
egreg
@MarcoDaniel It depends if you're able to win Denmark. :)
 
percusse
percusse
5:58 PM
@MarcoDaniel I'll try find a safe place during the GER - NED game.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
We'll have Brazil vs. Argentina today. :)
 
percusse
percusse
@PauloCereda Run for cover...
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
@PauloCereda What?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@percusse Indeed!
@MarcoDaniel Friendly match. :)
 
percusse
percusse
@PauloCereda Oxymoron
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
5:59 PM
Well, I wouldn't call that friendly. :P
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
@PauloCereda Ah ok.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@percusse LOL
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
@egreg Today Germany will lose
 
Patrick Gundlach
Patrick Gundlach
@MarcoDaniel or perhaps the other team will win :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
Go Germany!
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
6:06 PM
@PatrickGundlach ;-)
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
6:39 PM
Does anybody know a duplicated question? I am sure there is one.
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Q: referencing "coupled" tables

Abhimanyu AroraHow can I refer to 'coupled' tables (say different tables but referenced as table 5a and table 5b). If I \label them and use \ref, they would be referenced in the document as table 5 and table 6.

cross-referencing
 
 
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egreg
egreg
9:04 PM
@DavidCarlisle My last vote for today to alleviate you from the pain for another bug. :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
Wow, Brazil 3:4 Argentina. Good game. :)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@egreg :-(
 
tohecz
tohecz
Is there a big-list of really really bad documents?
I just came across a thesis template of one Czech university, and I'm afraid I'm gonna vomit now... :-(
 
egreg
egreg
@tohecz I made some examples yesterday.
@DavidCarlisle ifthen has the good feature of being easy to use.
 
tohecz
tohecz
 
egreg
egreg
9:42 PM
\def\refname{\clearpage\uppercase{Seznam použité literatury}} LOL
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
9:57 PM
@egreg it doesn't have many good features:-) Actually been away from the machine, but I need to check the fix there is safe, I have a fear that it breaks the use of \(\) as boolean logic syntax. something along those lines will work though....
 
egreg
egreg
10:07 PM
@DavidCarlisle Of course etoolbox is better and expl3 much more powerful. But for simple tasks ifthen was handy. Unfortunately people tend to use it when not necessary and forgets it's not expandable.
 
percusse
percusse
11:02 PM
@PauloCereda How come you don't have any answer to this?
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Q: How can I get following layout?

GriwesHere is image of desired layout, from PDF-ed MS Word version of the documment: It's A5 format. What I exactly want is: have it in two columns, each of them left-aligned lyrics should take as much space as they need; so, simple \begin{multicols}{2} is not enough How can I achieve such layou...

two-column
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@egreg pain gone, bug gone. I decided to reclassify it as a feature (see updated answer together with pathetic excuse of a justification:-)
 
egreg
egreg
11:33 PM
@DavidCarlisle algpseudocode uses \ifthenelse essentially for the usual \ifthenelse{\equals{#1}{}} or \ifthenelse{\equals{\ALG@noend}{t}} and algorithmicx does some nested emptyness tests. It would probably run much faster without them.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@percusse I didn't know that text was a song! :)
Besides, Gonzalo's answer is awesome. :)
I tried to sing the quickest I could today. :)
 

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