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12:00 AM
Look at the menu, you will probably find a "+" button. The tooltip says "New BibTeX key".
 
And, there are a few tile-like things.
 
Click it. :)
Yes. :)
 
OK, Done and I selected Book for the type. :)
 
Yay. :)
First and most important step: write the bibtexkey field. :)
 
Now, I fill in the data...
 
12:02 AM
It's the identifier you will use to refer to it in the document. If you have "foo:2012" in the bibtexkey, you can use \cite{foo:2012} later. :)
 
So, foo:2012 is called the bibtexkey?
Oh, yes. I should have read what you said.
OK. I wrote the key as Hubbard as it's the surname of both the authors.
 
Cool. :)
Now let's save our database. :)
The identifier is unique, make sure to have just one. :)
 
OK. Saved the database as LA as I plan to add more and more references related to Linear Algebra
 
OK. :)
 
So, I am done?
I keep updating as I please?
 
12:10 AM
\documentclass{article}

\begin{document}

This guy~\cite{Hubbard}.

\bibliographystyle{plain}
\bibliography{LA}
\end{document}
pdflatex, bibtex, pdflatex. :)
 
Fantastic! Thank you, Paulo! I am grateful to you...
 
I did nothing, buddy. :) You did. :)
 
I should tell you that I have tried doing a .bib file for last few months. I failed. So, I asked for help here.
 
12:42 AM
Fantastic. I added 10 more entries into this!
@Paulo Thanks a bunch.
I'll be here later.
 
12:57 AM
@KannappanSampath My pleasure. :)
@KannappanSampath Have fun with your new bibliography file. :)
 
 
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3:21 AM
@cmhgughes: I am still trying to understand what \hidewidth and the asspciated phantom does. I can get the correct results using a double quite instead of the equal sign, but I don't know why
 
4:38 AM
@Qrrbrbirlbel @JosephWright: I think you are probably the person to merge these two accounts. @Qrrbrbirlbel: A fan of Mork and Mindy?
 
@PeterGrill I actually had to look up what you mean. I am too young for Mork and Mindy.
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Oh, what does "Nanu" mean then? Hey, I could have seen it in re-runs!! :-)
 
It's actually German and more of an interjection. It's a wondering "Oops?" … or something like that.
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Oh, didn't know that reference. I thought you were referring to "Nanu Nanu". -)
 
5:12 AM
@PeterGrill I wasn't thinking when I typed it. I don't think that this is known in any other language …
 
@PauloCereda @Brent Do you notice my upload of the file .gitignore? I hope you agree with.
 
5:30 AM
@Qrrbrbirlbel Perhaps that is where the writers of Mork got it from.
 
 
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7:23 AM
@MarcoDaniel Yes! :) I'm still thinking about it (not just our .gitignore, about the general best method for ignoring...)
@MarcoDaniel That is, which 'ignores' belong to the project and which belong to the user
@percusse OMG
@PeterGrill It's one thousandth of Micru
 
@Brent.Longborough :-)
 
7:56 AM
@ClaudioFiandrino: Why did you delete you answer? It was totally different than mine. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/75386/…
 
8:36 AM
@ClaudioFiandrino I second Peter's comment. Your answer adds a feature not in the others in that it doesn't double-draw the line.
I've voted to undelete. Obviously, that's a symbolic vote in that if you really don't want your answer to appear there then I'll respect that.
 
9:13 AM
@PeterGrill flippin eck I see you're really determined to stay ahead:-) 260 before 10 in the morning :(
 
@Gnintendo: Afaik, you can use a file name in fontspec, but what you did looks good too
 
10:02 AM
54
Q: How do you find the center of a circle with a pencil and a book?

zddGiven a circle on a paper, a pencil and a book. Can you find the center of the circle with the pencil and book?

Open the book, maybe the answer to your question is written somewhere..! — Malik Younsi 2 days ago
LOL
 
10:20 AM
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10:50 AM
@PeterGrill, @AndrewStacey: I deleted the answer because I originally thought that the OP wanted to draw an arrow over a pre-existent line... then I realized what was the real need. I will undelete it, maybe updating it a bit.
 
11:05 AM
Did it! :)
 
@ClaudioFiandrino Good. I've added an explanation of the key feature by way of a comment. I like having lots of alternative answers - it makes things more useful for others who maybe want a similar idea but don't have quite the same constraints as the original questioner.
 
11:23 AM
@JosephWright I just needed an upvote to hit rep cap, so I wrote the answer on the TeX Gyre fonts you asked for.
 
11:33 AM
@AndrewStacey Seen it, thanks. Put in that way, I agree with you: for the future I won't delete answers if the method is different.
 
11:50 AM
@egreg Rep cap already? :)
 
@PauloCereda Sorry. :)
 
@egreg We could open a meta question asking for the Powers that Be to raise the rep cap limit. :)
 
12:05 PM
Is this on topic?
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Q: Can an 'Abstract' parameter be passed to pandoc to create a latex file?

mt3Similar to $title$, $author$, and $date$, is there an $abstract$ parameter that one can pass to a latex file from the title block? Example: \begin{abstract} $abstract$ \end{abstract}

 
@egreg Borderline, I think. :) I guess I can answer it. :)
 
12:32 PM
@egreg I'd say probably not
 
@JosephWright I think I can write an answer. Should I? :)
 
@PauloCereda Nothing stopping you. On/off topic is after all a community decision
 
@JosephWright :)
@Joseph: how's your connection these days?
 
@PauloCereda Fine today
 
@egreg I was leaning to off-topic as well.
 
12:55 PM
OK, I answered it, but I'm not sure if it's the answer the OP is looking for.
 
1:12 PM
3
Q: Stand-alone LaTeX -compiler for Windows i.e. without installation? Some USB -stick?

hhhMy university here provides TeXnicCenter without compiler. I am unable to install the compiler due to permissions, I am forced to work in Windows environment during classes without traditional *ix tools such as pdflatex. I am now trying to find out a way to get my LaTeX -installations to somethin...

Not sure about the approach in the self-answer: TeX is perfectly usable on Windows
 
@JosephWright Unusual answer, I'd say. :(
 
1:57 PM
C'mon guys, let's register! :)
Can we lure Heiko to join us? :)
 
2:44 PM
@PauloCereda Is there a minimum reputation limit needed to register? I'd believe that questions that were left unanswered for so long could require a lot of experience …
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel I think the minimum rep is the same required for joining the chat, but I'm not sure. :) There are indeed some questions that could benefit from our power users knowledge. :)
 
@PauloCereda I wasn't thinking of a technical limit, more of an "don't bother, if you're <10k"
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Oh! :) Everybody is welcome! We need help on finding questions, upvoting answers, etc. I don't have a good TeX expertise, but I can help on upvoting answers, casting close votes, finding comments that might become answers, etc. :) I've been in the session since I was 2K. :)
 
@PauloCereda I agree: there are some old questions that are tough, but also newer ones that probably didn't receive much attention. These sessions help in resurrecting them, maybe just to change comments into a CW answer, which everybody can do.
 
@egreg Indeed. :)
 
2:55 PM
@PauloCereda Oh well, I might be helpful after all. ;)
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Please, please, pretty please with sugar on top, do join us. :) You'll love the session. :)
 
@PauloCereda Refresh the event's site ;)
 
3:16 PM
@Qrrbrbirlbel Yay! :)
 
'Answer the Unanswered' is mainly about bringing things back to everyone's attention, so the more eyes the better
For closing questions, I'm usually on hand with the mod hammer :-)
 
@JosephWright More powerful than Thor's hammer. :)
@JosephWright: Is it OK to hijack one of Heiko's answer and invite him to join the session? :)
 
@PauloCereda You should be able to @ him from here, I think
If not I certainly can
 
@JosephWright ooh! :)
 
4:07 PM
@ℝaphink The problem is there's a bunch of file names
 
@Gnintendo ah
 
I mean, I know that fontspec has the capability to determine the bolt, italic, etc fonts by itself
but how do I do that while specifying the directory to look for those fonts
@ℝaphink Let me know if you come up with a more elegant solution; I've been trying for a while now.
 
@Gnintendo: Personally, I install the fonts in my system.
 
Right, this is just a solution for redistribution of the fonts....
 
4:27 PM
yes
@Gnintendo: Usually, I put info in the README on where to find the fonts.
 
4:39 PM
@ℝaphink That's what I did for EB Garamond
Since it would be much more difficult to include directly
I think I'll leave it like this so people don't have to do much work to compile the document and I was able to successfully include the other two fonts
 
@DavidCarlisle Someone has to make you work it. Plus I am hoping that since I have reached my rep cap I can get some real work done today.
 
@Gnintendo I've noticed that you use EB Garamond for you main font. Has you made a choice for the math font? (Besides mathdesign's mdugm?)
 
@DavidCarlisle: Hey, wait a minute you too are 260 before 10:00AM time!!
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel No, it's a humanities document, but I've often wondered what math fonts are out there
 
4:56 PM
Ok, I think my next book is quite ready to be printed now :-) r.pinson.free.fr/calvary/pdf/…
 
@Gnintendo mdugm looks good in my opinion, It's a little cleaner (sharper) than the EB Garamond, but the spacing is better (obviously).
Although I wonder whether Garamond is a good choice for a scientific/math document.
 
Yeah...
I feel like Garamond would be more of a book/humanities document thing
@ℝaphink I really need a better cover for my document...
 
@ℝaphink Looks good. But quite short chapters, eh?
 
Gotta love Garfield. :)
 
5:22 PM
@PauloCereda lol :)
 
@cmhughes Poor Jon. :)
 
@PauloCereda are you through your cold/virus now?
 
@cmhughes It seems so. :) Still with a little cough, but maybe a couple of days. :)
 
@PauloCereda good to hear :)
 
5:26 PM
Damn you, rep limit.
 
@PauloCereda I was amazed how quickly the xkcd question went viral
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Yay! :)
@cmhughes Indeed. :) The Mathematica thread is over 200 upvotes.
 
@PauloCereda what do you think made it so popular? was it simply that it was to do with xkcd?
 
@cmhughes Personally, it gave me a chance to poke fun at a teacher:
 
@Gnintendo lol :) did you make those using percusse's template?
 
5:29 PM
Yeah
 
impressive :)
 
I had to tweak some stuff to get what I wanted, but it was based on his template
I learned a lot about tikz in the process, though
 
@cmhughes My guess is because the plots get a cartoonish look. And well, the XKCD also helps. I just hope your students don't try to be funny and submit one of those to you. :)
 
@PauloCereda lol :) If my students went to the trouble of constructing something like that in LaTeX I'd be over the moon :)
if they made in Word there would be trouble
 
@cmhughes LOL A+ if they use indent.plx :P
 
5:32 PM
@PauloCereda yes indeedyo :)
 
@cmhughes Here's the code in case you were curious: pastie.org/private/pxfqzpunv9hpbi7ugwdxg
 
@cmhughes Overall, I think it's a nice idea to have a cartoonish look plot, just like a handwritten font with math support. :)
 
I found out I had to rework some of the things percusse did to make it more extendable, but I'm really happy with the result
 
@Gnintendo thanks a lot :)
 
no problem
 
5:34 PM
@PauloCereda yes, totally agree- very fun :)
 
@cmhughes Of course, @percusse is a genius. :) That man has TikZ running in his blood veins. :)
I'm thinking of writing a blog post about it. :)
 
@PauloCereda that would be neat :) all this while he's writing a thesis too? crazy!
 
@cmhughes it seems percusse codes while Matlabs suffers in the background. :)
 
@PauloCereda ah, indeed :) Matlab does that very well :)
I'm quite jealous of anyone writing a thesis these days- having access to tex exchange would have been such a great resource
 
@cmhughes Same here. :(
 
5:45 PM
@cmhughes Time for a new task: Write a book and use TeX.SE knowledge for that!
 
@PauloCereda got to step away- hope you have a great day :)
 
@cmhughes ok, see ya!
 
@tohecz that would be fun, a community project?
 
@cmhughes Thanks Chris! You too! :)
 
@tohecz @PauloCereda bye guys, wish I could stick around, see you later on :)
 
5:46 PM
@cmhughes not necessarily, you can write a book yourself and use a lot of TeX.SE knowledge!
(omg, @cmhughes disappeared and his clone has appeared at the same time. Clone attack! We're gonna die!)
 
@tohecz LOL
 
 
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7:01 PM
The Ask Question form should at least check for an occurrence of “MWE” …
 
7:47 PM
Is there a local equivalent to \g@addto@macro? The obvious \@addto@macro isn't it.
 
@PeterGrill Not defined by latex.ltx, but see the tools in etoolbox
 
@JosephWright Thanks. Will check that out.
@JosephWright Hey, should this warning for etoolbox still be on CTAN: "The package should be regarded as experimental, and should not be used in “production” work". ctan.org/pkg/etoolbox
 
@PeterGrill Probably not: I'll ask Robin about it
PL is as you might know nowhere to be found :-(
 
8:02 PM
@JosephWright Yeah, quite sad..
 
@PeterGrill another unaccept, someone switched to a tikz solution:( I blame @PeterGrill gathering the tikz forces against me.
@PeterGrill but that would be it if it existed (couldn't spare the tokens at the time for a macro that wasn't used)
 
@DavidCarlisle I can't believe that voodoo spell I pout on your answers actually worked!! :-)
@DavidCarlisle I found \listadd from etoolbox which is sort of working... Somehow I have an extra |character so trying to figure out where that is coming from. Really unlikely coming from anything to do with etoolbox
 
\long\def\@addto@macro#1#2{%
\begingroup
\toks@\expandafter{#1#2}%
\expandafter\endgroup\expandafter
\edef\expandafter#1\expandafter{\the\toks@}%
}
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(untested)
 
This is another very unfair advantage: David Carlisle can write code, not test it, and have it actually work!!!
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8:19 PM
@PeterGrill well I did write the g@version I think:-)
 
Opps, I accidentally erased my earlier message: You code works great. No spurious | character that I was getting with \listadd.
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Yes, short chapters. It's daily devotionals.
 
@DavidCarlisle Ok that explains it... But I can't even make small modifications to my own code without testing and then fixing it to get it to work...
 
@JosephWright the answer here should be a comment or an edited qn or something, am I supposed to flag that (flagging sounds like marking for spam or something I tend to avoid:-)
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Q: tabularx and array

AleI need two things for my tables: text has to be able to wrap. the first row has to be bold For 1, I need the package tabularx. For 2, I need the package array and quite a lot of commands (see Make first row of table all bold) However if I transpose the above commands into a tabularx (rather ...

 
@DavidCarlisle Flagging is fine: all the mods then see things
@DavidCarlisle Tidied up (there was an account merge too)
 
8:25 PM
@JosephWright thanks
 
@DavidCarlisle Hey, since I feel bad that you had an unaccept today due to my voodoo spell, you can add your \@addto@macro code as an answer to How keep a running list of strings and then process them one at a time.
 
8:44 PM
@PeterGrill :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Have to wait a few more hours before I can vote it up.. Thanks. I refer to that question very few months so that will help me in the future.
 
@PeterGrill well I'm rep capped today anyway -)
 
9:36 PM
@egreg: I think @DavidCarlisle jinxed imakeidx. :)
 
@ℝaphink By any chance, do you know how to active the “Local” features (here German) for EB Garamond and font-spec? The doc left me puzzling.
 
@PauloCereda No. :( It's been a combination of errors. I proposed a fix for a simple problem, without realizing it could break other things; Claudio didn't fully test it. :(
But the fix is already on its way to CTAN.
 
@egreg oops. :(
@egreg That was very quick. :)
 
@PauloCereda At first I was scared. Then I had the idea to check with the working version, knowing where to go. The same macro had been used when two different ones should have been.
 
@egreg It's indeed a bad experience when you have something broken without a clue on what to do. :( Thankfully, you have the expertise to investigate and track the expansion. :)
 
10:03 PM
@egreg: I almost forgot about another great Franciscan today: San Benedetto! :)
 
@PauloCereda Well, he couldn't be a Franciscan: he died in 547
@PeterGrill Re your question on \AddRef: I believe that global definitions is what you need in that case.
 
@egreg Oops, sorry. :) I meant Benedetto da San Fratello. :)
For some reason, we celebrate his feast today, and not in April 4. :)
 
@PauloCereda I'd never heard about him. :)
 
@egreg Really? :) We have a beautiful image of him, I'll take a picture tomorrow. :) He also has a strong devotion here. :)
He is from the Ordo Fratrum minorum Cappucinorum. :)
 
10:33 PM
Just finished graphical processing of an extra badly typeset article. Now I need a good goodnight T&J definitely.
 
@egreg Yes global was exactly what I needed when I first asked the question. But I had a case now where there was a need to keep a local list - scoping was the most convenient way to get the list to reset automatically. I started to use`\listadd` from etoolbox and was having an issue with it (spurious | in the string).
When @DavidCarlise posted his version of \@addto@macro, everything magically worked for me as I wanted, so asked him to post that answer. I will adapt the question so that both global anbd local options are possible.
 
@PeterGrill Yes, \listadd uses a delimiter that can come handy for later splitting the list; it's not the right tool. The local version is, with etoolbox, \appto.
 
@egreg Ahh that explains that. Save me asking a silly question...
 
@PeterGrill etoolbox provides \appto and \gappto to add to a parameterless macro.
 
@egreg Arrghhh!! Why is there no index for the` etoolbox` documentation!!
 
10:43 PM
@PeterGrill You never patch other commands, so you're not experienced in those commands. :)
 
Well, ok the bookmarks are nice, but index would have been usefule
@egreg :-)
 
11:22 PM
@PauloCereda How dare you call me that? Speaking 42 languages coding in at least 6 computer languages starting with P... and then you are not but I'm... yeah, right. :P
 
@percusse <3
 
I'm kinda drunk so better answer some TikZ questions before I pass out :P
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@percusse LOL
 
Alan Munn has just answered a question. It's a long time he's not here. :(
 
@egreg Indeed. :(
 
11:49 PM
@percusse it'll be very hard to get unsung hero on tex exchange :)
 
@cmhughes The difficult we do immediately. The impossible takes a little longer
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@percusse very profound :) who's it from?
 
@cmhughes We have the Voting Squad. :)
 
@PauloCereda another thing that makes this site/community so great :)
 
@cmhughes Some army stuff probably where logic is needed only grammatically.
 

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