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10:10 AM
@AndrewStacey I'd say that accepting just means (almost) the same as on the main site: This is what helped the OP most, or what the OP liked best. But it's still good that you asked: The marking as "Accepted" should have no connection with our "policy". There one should have a look at the top voted answers, not the accepted answer.
 
 
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11:24 AM
is this a good intro to hyperref? en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Hyperlinks#Hyperref
I was thinking of trying it out.
 
11:41 AM
is hyperref popular?
@Jake: Hi Jake
 
@Faheem: Hello Faheem
 
@Jake: Just curious how you come to be a TeX fanatic. Are you a mathematician too?
 
@Faheem: No, I'm an environmental engineer. Much simpler equations, but equations nonetheless. Thus: LaTeX (I'm scared of plain TeX...)
 
@Jake: Oh, I see.
@Jake: and TikZ, apparently.
 
@Faheem: Yeah, I only recently discovered that, but I've grown to love it pretty quickly.
 
11:50 AM
@Jake: Yes, I've only been using it for a bit myself.
 
@Faheem: You do bioinformatics, judging from your journal article question?
 
@Jake: You seem pretty expert, considering you haven't been doing it long
@Jake: well, my current project could be called that, yes. but i do other things too. i can point you to a link for this bmc paper if you are interested.
 
@Faheem: Trying to answer TikZ questions on this site has been the best way to learn for me
 
and I'm working on this project under rather, um, odd circumstances.
 
@Faheem: Sure!
 
11:52 AM
@Jake: right. time-consuming though, I'd have thought.
so you don't have one of those high pressure corporate jobs?
@Jake: ok, sec. it is on the web as a working paper or something
 
@Faheem: Not really, no. TikZ somehow just really makes sense to me, and the documentation is great.
@Faheem: I'm a grad student, and at the moment staying in academia seems like a more tempting idea than going into corporate engineering. Not much time for toying around with fun stuff once you start at an engineering firm.
 
This version doesn't have the diagram you helped me with - it is a little out of date.
if you want to see the most recent one i can stick it in my web space
@Jake: Ok, if you are a grad student, that seems more explicable.
 
@Faheem: Oooh, yes, definitely!
@Faheem: Hehe...
 
see the diagram with the cylinders...
 
@Faheem: That looks excellent! Glad the solution worked out for you!
 
12:01 PM
@Jake: thanks for your assistance
 
@Faheem: Pleasure!
 
i'm wondering if i should use hyperref or not...
@Jake: i meant to post some followup question about compactifying TikZ code. i notice people don't seem to use functions/macros much.
 
@Faheem: What stops you from doing it?
 
@Jake: laziness :-)
also, wondering what the journal would think
is hyperref standard?
 
@Faheem: Ah, good point!
 
12:04 PM
@Jake: where are you located? if it's not a secret, that is...
 
@Faheem: Switzerland, at the moment
 
@Jake: Ok. You don't sound swiss though. :-)
If I had to guess, I'd say English was your native language
US/Canada/UK?
Excuse nosyness, I'm Indian. it's a cultural thing. :-)
 
@Faheem: I'm German, actually, but I've lived in Australia for a couple of years
 
@Jake: Damn. Poor guess. Bah.
 
@Faheem: Looks like other people publishing at BioMed use hyperref (or some other kind of linking system: biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2105-12-30.pdf
@Faheem: Or maybe the publisher took care of the cross-references. Probably best to ask them?
 
12:09 PM
@Jake: So I see.
My quess it is probably ok.
@Jake: I doubt the journal did anything. it is almost certainly the authors
@Jake: thanks for the pointer.
 
@Faheem: No problem. I think it should be fine, too, hyperref is not very exotic.
 
@Jake: true.
@lockstep: hi lockstep
 
12:51 PM
@FaheemMitha Hi Faheem. (Yes, a little bit too late.)
 
@lockstep: hey
 
Just now I have some spare time to retag some question. Sadly, about one third of the questions at the start page already display "lockstep". Sigh.
 
@lockstep: this can't be automated?
i mean, this is the 21st century
@Seamus: hi Seamus
 
@FaheemMitha Retagging all questions tagged with, say, to "citing" can be done automatically. But skimming the tag and retagging some questions to , others to , others again to something else has to be done manually (and with at least some understanding).
 
@lockstep: i see. sounds like grunt work. i'm sorry
 
1:01 PM
Hi.
I was thinking of asking a question similar to my tabular question about figures/floats packages...
 
@FaheemMitha No need to be sorry -- I've done much worse grunt work in the past. :-)
 
@lockstep: ok
me too, probably
 
1:57 PM
@AndrewStacey What was this \newcommand with an unknown number of arguments thingy about??
 
2:16 PM
@FaheemMitha It's our etiquette that we recommend to wait a day before accepting an answer (same is to be found in the guidelines on meta.SO):
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Q: Should we wait a bit before accepting answers?

vandenThere are a few questions where an answer has been accepted really quickly. In at least one case, the question got an answer after 20 minutes and had an accepted answer less than 30 minutes from being asked. I'm all in favour of accepting answers. (I've accepted an answer in 10 of the 11 I've as...

@lockstep: The above might also interest you.
 
@HendrikVogt: Regarding my question at meta about verbose questions, you stated in your answer (which I accepted ;-)) that you already had suggested the OP to change the title. I can't find such a suggestion, however. (Also, the OP is an unregistered user and therefore may not be allowed to edit his own question.)
 
2:39 PM
@AlanMunn: I submitted a feature request for biblatex's 'extrayear' field. Hopefully this will be added in v1.2b.
 
2:49 PM
@Hendrik: You're responding to my comment yesterday? Or something else?
I saw a recommendation somewhere, maybe on the main SO site, to wait 24 to 48 hrs before accepting an answer.
Which seems pretty reasonable to me.
Yes, I see one of the answers links to the official FAQ item for that.
 
@FaheemMitha: Your comment is already a while ago, yes. Just click on the arrow left of "@Faheem" at my above message; this links to your comment.
 
Isn't changing one's mind on the answer bad manners though? I don't like doing that.
 
It's no problem at all to accept another answer if it's better. But if a question has an accepted answer, others might be deterred from giving that better answer.
 
@HendrikVogt: It links to my comment? I don't see anything like that there.
@HendrikVogt: Well, you're taking reputation points away from someone after first giving them...
 
And this "somewhere" you said above, Faheem, is also in the "Q: Should we ...?" abobe
Left of "@FaheemMitha It's our etiquette that we recommend" there's a clickable arrow.
And it's generally no problem to take away the 15 rep, at least if it's from a high rep user.
 
2:56 PM
@HendrikVogt: I see the clickable arrow. I don't see where the link to my question is.
@HendrikVogt: If I'm being dense, I apologise.
Oh, I see. I just click on the arrow, and it jumps to my earlier comment.
Ok, I see why I was confused. That's a separate arrow immediately to the left of @Faheem.
Not the main arrow on the left border.
Hmm. This is some quite fancy software, as these things go.
I wonder what it is implemented in.
 
@lockstep It was a question of xport, and maybe I deleted my comment or the question was deleted. See also my comment to that "full remainder in polynomial long division" question; there I actually did the edit myself.
 
@HendrikVogt Ah ... thanks for clarifying. So, should we wait in this case until 24 hours have passed?
 
3:34 PM
@lockstep Thanks. I saw your update to the question.
 
3:59 PM
@lockstep That's what I wrote in the Building Blocks, after a short discussion with Caramdir: Suggest to accept an answer only after a day has passed.
 
4:20 PM
@HendrikVogt @lockstep Btw. I removed the centering discussion comments in that TOC question, you remember, as agreed.
 
@StefanKottwitz Thanks!
 
4:43 PM
@StefanKottwitz I'm not exactly sure if I know what you mean ...
 
@HendrikVogt didn't you set a reminding flag there?
 
@StefanKottwitz Well possible. I'm flagging too much, and when I do, I often immediately forget. (Was this very recent?) But never mind, it's not so important.
 
@Ma
@MartinScharrer are you there, Martin?
 
@LevBishop: Yes
 
@MartinScharrer Do you have a moment for some svn-multi discussion?
 
4:52 PM
@LevBishop: Yes, I do.
 
@MartinScharrer I made a room. Lets see how that works.
 
5:43 PM
@HendrikVogt: I was looking in the latex.ltx file to see how \newcommand worked. At some point, it has to call \def\command#1#2#3...{...} but the number of arguments is specified at call time so somehow the right #1#2#3... bit has to be inserted in to the code. It's truly mind-boggling how it works.
 
@AndrewStacey That's done in \@yargd@f (line 634).
 
@AndrewStacey Better look at source2e.pdf; that one has comments on the code.
 
All possible 9 arguments are there as ##1##2##3##4##5##6##7##8##9 and the right amount is captured using a temporary macro.
@HendrikVogt Yes, source2e is much better.
 
@MartinScharrer: Yes, that's what I was looking at. It took me a while to figure out how it worked and when I did, I was suitably impressed. Didn't know about source2e.pdf, I'll look there in future. Thanks.
 
@AndrewStacey There is also the summary about some of the source2e macros: macros2e, but only the once useful for package writers.
@AndrewStacey: Also note the texdef script I just published. It allows you to go through the definitions one by one. However the unformatted display isn't nice for longer macros. The DTX file / source2e is better.
 
6:05 PM
@StefanKottwitz, @lockstep: I think now it's enough retagging for the day - we're drowning :-)
 
@HendrikVogt And I haven't even started yet ;-)
 
@HendrikVogt: ok :-) I made two not visible mergings and some correcting retags following that. Enough for now, I too don't like causing "scrolling".
 
7:02 PM
@MartinScharrer: I was looking (in case anyone's interested) because I want to write a variant of \newcommand that works as follows: \mynewcommand{\hello}[3] defines a macro \hello that takes three arguments and expands to \string\hello\{#1\}\{#2\}\{#3\}. The difficulty is figuring out how to adapt the way that \newcommand defines the parameters to also define the substitution text.
 
Anybody can tell me why I don't have a badge, despite my user profile listing 120 and the threshold is 100?
 
@LevBishop You need to answer at least 20 non-community questions for a bronze tag badge, despite the 100 threshold.
@LevBishop Your profile shows 18 questions.
 
@StefanKottwitz Ah, thanks. Is this documented?
 
@LevBishop Yes, it is: you find it on the badges page, switch from general to tags, there it's written in the legend on the right.
 
@HendrikVogt No manual retagging of old questions for the next 24 hours, I promise. ;-) BTW, (math environment) vs. looks like yet another thing that needs to be sorted out.
 
7:19 PM
@lockstep: besides equations, quickly reveals pictures, tables, columns, symbols, headings, vectors and matrices already on the 1st page.
 
@StefanKottwitz And is often also about alignment.
 
is already a nice summary of align related environments, there are some
 
@AndrewStacey I do something similar in ydoc, it allows to write \Macro\hello{..1..}{..2..}{..3..} which is then formatted quite like you wanted.
It supports other types of arguments as well.
 
@MartinScharrer: Great! I'll take a look at how you do it.
 
@AndrewStacey I implemented a token parser which looks ahead.
 
7:50 PM
@StefanKottwitz Thanks
 
8:06 PM
hi. how does hyperref decide which browser to use? mostly it seems to use chromium, but now it is using konqueror.
Also, it is adding gibberish to the ends of the urls in the bioliography. weird.
Like %255d. I think it may be getting confused by an ending bracket
 
@FaheemMitha I don't think hyperref decides which browser is used. That's done by your PDF viewer.
 
@MartinScharrer: I see. hmm. maybe two i was using different PDF viewers.
 
@FaheemMitha Looks like URL encoding to me. Check your .bib files for stuff at the end of the URLs.
 
@MartinScharrer: I don't think there is any. But I'm not \url in the bib file either.
the tex faq seems to think I should be using howpublished = "\url{http://...}"
which breaks my file
 
8:25 PM
@FaheemMitha It depends quite a bit on your bib-style and if you use BibTeX or BibLaTeX
 
@MartinScharrer: right. probably not trivial debugging then.
 
@FaheemMitha I'm not sure. I can't help you much. I hardly have URLs in my references.
 
There are these square brackets that are messing stuff up.
@MartinScharrer: It's not important.
The internal links are kinda handy though. I might leave it in for that.
 
Square brackets in the URL?
 
@MartinScharrer : yes, bracketing the url in the bibliography
 
8:28 PM
Mmm, 5d is the hex ASCII code of ]
 
So like [foo.com]
@MartinScharrer : Yes, I figured it was trying to transcribe the square bracket somehow
 
Look into the generated .bbl file and see how the \url is added.
 
@MartinScharrer : ok
 
It might end up like [\url{foo]}.
 
Looks like -> \urlprefix\url{[hapmap.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/]}
 
8:30 PM
Yes, thats the problem.
 
and those square brackets are the problem. any way to tell hyperref those square brackets aren't part of the url? currently it thinks they are
 
No, you should move them out of the \url{}
 
@MartinScharrer: They're autogenerated.
the bbl file is, I mean
 
I know. Which style are you using?
 
would I have to mess with the bib style file.
@MartinScharrer: it's a journal style file
This file is based on the style 'unsrt.bst'
BibTeX BST file for BioMed Central
 
8:33 PM
Mmm, do you need hyperlinked URLs? Changing it to the definition of the url package or simply to \textttshould avoids the problem, I think.
 
@MartinScharrer: It's not important.
 
I just thought I would experiment with hyperref. I wasn't expecting to run into problems.
i think it is mildly useful, but it seems like it would be non-trivial to debug.
and possibly impossible to fix without altering the bst file.
Though I imagine other people use hyperref, so that makes me wonder.
if I wanted to follow up on this, where should I take it?
 
8:55 PM
@FaheemMitha: If you create a minimal example and provide the bst file in question you could post it on the main site as question. Otherwise the author or the bst file might be able to help.
 
@MartinScharrer : Ok, thanks. You mean author of the bst file, right?
 
the bst article has no author info. i'd have to ask the journal.
 
@M
@MartinScharrer Martin wont't you please have a look on the post about Babel and comment if you think there is a bug or not?
 
@YiannisLazarides: Which one? "babel: english, american, USenglish"?
 
9:09 PM
@MartinScharrer Yes, you will need to read both posts and comments, Alan's and mine, thanks.
 
@YiannisLazarides: I can do that, but I don't have much to do with babel.
 
@MartinScharrer oops! It thought you knew everything:)
 
@lockstep I like your biblatex guidelines question! Should be a good one...
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@Seamus Thanks! To be honest, I'm hoping for @domwass to answer it. His guide about creating own biblatex styles is hot stuff (at least for those of us that are fluent in German).
 
9:21 PM
@YiannisLazarides Looks to me that english is influenced by the more specific language styles.
 
@MartinScharrer thanks, I will have a good look at the dtx tomorrow. It shouldn't otherwise if I change the language to say greek it shouldn't change the original command \dateenglish should remain valid.
 
@YiannisLazarides I'm sure you're right on that. My characterisation of the problem as being the second last language only applies to 'dialects' of the same language, I think.
@lockstep Is there any hope for an English translation of it? biblatex is sorely missing a kind of tutorial document.
 
@AlanMunn ... not really a serious issue, just puzzled me.
 
@AlanMunn I'm afraid not in the short run, or at least not by the author.
 
@YiannisLazarides, @AlanMunn: I added a comment to this question thread now.
The issue arises IMHO because english is just a copy of the last used English dialect.
 
9:37 PM
@MartinScharrer Yes, that seems to be the behaviour. So this is really a bug, IMO, since as the part of the docs that I quoted says, english should be simply synonymous to USenglish and american.
@YiannisLazarides Yes, me too. It's funny how such a simple question can raise such issues. (Also that hyphenation marking luatex code is pretty cool too.)
 
Seems like my question about customizing biblatex arouses interest: 29 minutes, 15 views, 10 upvotes, "Nice question" badge earned. :-)
Right ... and question favorited by 2 users.
 

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