Malfoy Manor - 2017-01-10

amaranth

00:47

@steelersquirrel I know the answer to your new question, but I'm at work and someone else will probably answer soonish

But... the answer is in your quote. They starved Lucian and then threw him some tasty humans. I think it was during a full moon. He turned them by biting them.

steelersquirrel

@amaranth I thought that he fed off of the slaves...and they died before they turned. Well...that makes more sense. Just post a comment really quick and then come and answer it later :)

amaranth

meh :p

steelersquirrel

I guess that I was confused with the word "breed"

amaranth

terminology for turning is awkward

steelersquirrel

Oh, great. I'm going to get smart ass comments and answers now :(

amaranth

00:56

what :-o

I mean it's tricky coming up with a whole parallel set of terms for sire/progeny as opposed to parent/child

steelersquirrel

Just because it seems so obvious now that you told me that ;)

amaranth

poor squirrel

steelersquirrel

:'(

amaranth

for the record, very few people were known to be born immortal: Marcus, William, David, Eve, Lucian, and Sonja

most/all others were born human, and turned later

steelersquirrel

Also...were Viktor and Alexander Corvinus both Hungarian war lords in the 5th century?

amaranth

00:59

apparently, for some sort of definition of "Hungarian"

Viktor's age was always unclear to me, but in Blood Wars, it's revealed that an offshoot coven was founded in the 6th century, so Viktor has to be older than that

steelersquirrel

Is there any evidence that they knew eachother?

amaranth

what a thought :-o

they surely knew about each other after Viktor was turned, but I don't know otherwise

steelersquirrel

This is a new question!!! Yay!!

amaranth

I think Viktor was somewhere near Alexander's sons' age

so, contemporaries

steelersquirrel

I think that I am going to delete the one that I just posted and ask something like that instead.

amaranth

01:02

poor squirrel

steelersquirrel

Okay. I gotta work on this question...Talk to you later! I will be at work all night. I will pop in after I have this question done :)

amaranth

k :D

steelersquirrel

05:08

@amaranth Okay. Another question posted. I'm giving your wiki site some love by using it as my source info :)

amaranth

:D

steelersquirrel

Let's see how long it takes Eve this time...

amaranth

100 years :p

steelersquirrel

Hey!! I just noticed! Eve is a Steelers fan!! Haha! Yes!

amaranth

\o/

it's possibly relevant that "Hungarian" doesn't have a clear meaning for the 5th century

steelersquirrel

05:11

I wonder if Napoleon did that...

amaranth

it wasn't me

steelersquirrel

@amaranth We shall see. cde gave a great answer to my other question. I guess we will see what answers I get :)

amaranth

they were either proto-magyars, presumably living near the south end of the Ural Mountains at the time, or more likely in my mind, they were natives of the Carpathian mountains, identifying as Hungarians later, after the Kingdom of Hungary was founded. Blend in with the locals, you know

I think the Alexander Corvinus page says the opposite of that... and I wrote that part :-|

steelersquirrel

Then answer it!!!! :P

amaranth

that doesn't say whether they knew each other :p

I would want to know whether the average warlord living on the fringes of the Roman empire knew the other warlords personally at that time :D

steelersquirrel

05:15

I just noticed that they were both "Hungarian warlords" so, if anyone knows anything deeper than that, that would be awesome!

@amaranth Well, it's curious how Marcus would know to approach Viktor for help...like, did his father suggest that?

amaranth

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

steelersquirrel

Dun dun dunnnnn...

amaranth

:p

steelersquirrel

My next question is going to be about Amelia

amaranth

oh really :-o

steelersquirrel

05:20

Either that or the guy that Sonja was supposed to marry...Marcus son, wasn't it?

amaranth

Lucian?

oh that guy

Nicolae. he isn't canon

I don't know much about him

steelersquirrel

Yeah...was Marcus married? Who is his mother?...Amelia, maybe :P

amaranth

Marcus's mother was Helena Corvinus. There is no mention of a wife or children for Marcus in canon.

steelersquirrel

No...Nicolae's mother. I'm thinking in my mind that I want it to be Amelia, you know because incest :P

amaranth

oh :p

steelersquirrel

05:25

Hehe!

amaranth

well, Selene is Michael's sire, so Selene is both Eve's mom and her grandsire :p

steelersquirrel

OMG! Good point!

Oh! My other question was about the moon collar...was Lucian wearing one when he watched Sonja die?

amaranth

we should have screenshots of that

steelersquirrel

I looked on your wiki page, but his hair is in the way :(

amaranth

oh :-o

to properly treat that question, I suppose we'd have to check the scenes in Underworld and Rise of the Lycans

steelersquirrel

05:28

I just wanted to know how the lycans are able to control their changing without it now.

amaranth

to see if his collar was the same both times

with practise

steelersquirrel

I will do more research when I get to work.

amaranth

what better thing to do at work \o/

steelersquirrel

Hehehe!

amaranth

I am not sure if the moon was full the night that Lucian rescued Sonja

but the collars were to prevent transformations entirely. Even if the Lycans could control their transformations, the vampires didn't trust them that much

steelersquirrel

05:31

Well, in rise of the lycans, it shows the full moon come through the roof. So, I just assumed that Lucian's anger surpassed the power of the collar.

amaranth

OH

ummmmmmmmm I think he wasn't wearing a collar at the time. He had previously been shot with silver-tipped crossbow bolts, and they were still in his skin

that was the night that he learned how to expel projectiles from his body by force of will!!!

steelersquirrel

Argh! I gotta go get ready for work. Be back later :)

amaranth

bye :)

steelersquirrel

07:07

You sci-fi people all up in here saying that you don't get good answers over at M&TV...I beg to differ! :P

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Q: Were Viktor and Alexander Corvinus acquaintances before they became immortal?

Both Alexander Corvinus and Viktor were 5th century Hungarian warlords before they became immortal. Alexander became the first immortal by surviving a plague, discovering that he possessed a rare genetic mutation, allowing him to be immune to any disease. Viktor was turned into a vampire by Ale...

Great answer ^^

amaranth

it would be if he were right

steelersquirrel

<gasp> What's wrong about it?

amaranth

still thinking about it, but it puts Viktor too young in light of Blood Wars

steelersquirrel

See...and I am just not familiar enough with Blood Wars to judge it that. I have only seen it once.

amaranth

they gave the age of one of the covens. I forget which one

it was realllly old

steelersquirrel

07:18

Well, you can go and make a comment and question him about it...

amaranth

oh, he's off on that point, but it doesn't change the answer

at best, Viktor was a kid when Alexander was a mortal warlord

that's if we assume that Alexander stopped ageing as soon as he became immortal, which is a good assumption

wait again...

yeah, Viktor is at least several decades younger than Alexander

steelersquirrel

So...his answer is correct, then?

amaranth

essentially

steelersquirrel

Well...cool, then! Woot!

amaranth

they were probably mortal at the same time, briefly

steelersquirrel

07:32

Cool. It would be awesome if they would make a prequel about them before they were immortals. I would have liked to see that rather than the pos that was rise of the lycans ;)

amaranth

lil baby Viktor, bossing around the village children?

steelersquirrel

Hehe! Maybe a back story on Viktor on how he became such a ruthless dick ;)

amaranth

he's a survivor! :p

his steps 7 and 8 seem off somehow

steelersquirrel

Sweet!!! He's a member of an 80's rock group!!

amaranth

\o/

steelersquirrel

07:38

Viktor must be the one with the mullet...wait. They all have mullets ;)

amaranth

:p

steelersquirrel

@amaranth Oh, I see....because Viktor had to be turned almost immediately since he was dying. I gotcha!

amaranth

yeah, he can't be turned after death. I don't know where he was going with that

I agree with his conclusion, but I'm not sure about every step and every number

steelersquirrel

Right. I see what you're saying now.

amaranth

actually, if he just took out step 8, it would be pretty good, unless I'm missing something

or merged steps 7 and 8 or something

the wiki says that the Eastern Coven was founded in the 6th century, so Viktor had to be turned by then

steelersquirrel

07:44

Riiiiiiiiight!!!!! See...this is why you're a moderator on the wiki site!! :)

amaranth

I'm a moderator because I bugged one of the other moderators about editing the CSS, and he told me to do it myself :p

anyway, according to my notes, the Eastern Coven was 15 centuries old at the time of Blood Wars, which is early to mid 21st century. So that makes the Eastern Coven founded around... the 6th century. yes.

Viktor has to be immortal by the late 6th century at least

steelersquirrel

Well, I love that wiki site now that I have been around it more often these past few weeks :)

amaranth

\o/

Eve

12:27

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Q: Were Viktor and Alexander Corvinus acquaintances before they became immortal?

Both Alexander Corvinus and Viktor were 5th century Hungarian warlords before they became immortal. Alexander became the first immortal by surviving a plague, discovering that he possessed a rare genetic mutation, allowing him to be immune to any disease. Viktor was turned into a vampire by Ale...

character underworld

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Q: Why is Marcus Corvinus hybrid nature different from Michael Corvin?

Both Marcus Corvinus and Michael Corvin belong to Alexander Corvinus's bloodline and both later become Vampire/Lycan hybrid. Why does Marcus Corvinus's hybrid nature more of a vampire and does not show any visual Lycan part, but Michael almost shows both properties of his hybrid nature? So, why ...

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steelersquirrel

21:38

@amaranth Eve being a Steeler fan seems to be a mystery. Napoleon said that he didn't do it. The plot thickens. Dun dun dunnnnnnn...

amaranth

dun dun dunnnnnn

my candle got an upgrade, but it hasn't propagated to chat yet

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steelersquirrel

Oh, nice!!!!

amaranth

:D

oh, now I made it work

reload if I still look like a candle :p

steelersquirrel

You totally look like a big huge bon fire now!!!!

Is that what you're supposed to look like?

amaranth

yes \o/

steelersquirrel

21:52

Woot!

amaranth

woot

steelersquirrel

My squirrel looks so awesome with sunglasses and that hat! I had Himarm make a screen cap or whatever it's called after I got this hat. It was super hard to get. Only 17 people were awarded this hat!!!! I ROCK!!! :P

amaranth

steelersquirrel rocks \o/

steelersquirrel

amaranth

-_-

gross :p

steelersquirrel

22:02

Hehehe! Sorry. That's all I can think about when I say that "I rock" :P

amaranth

poor squirrel :p

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