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Q: How did Arya not get burned in S8E05, "The Bells"

Arya is clearly burnt by the fire.

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Bael the Bard

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Q: How is drogon able to continuously breath fire for so long?

My idea of how a dragon can breathe fire is that it produces some form of flammable liquid, and lights it in its mouth using an organ that produces sparks. The problem is, there's no way a dragon could store or regenerate such a liquid enough to breath the amount of fire Drogon did with little r...

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Q: Need suggestions to watch any new season

As we all know Game Of Thrones is going to be end this week. I need some suggestions, which season I will watch next

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Bael the Bard

07:26

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Q: Why didn't King Jaehaerys Targaryen think himself a Kinslayer?

In Fire and Blood we see that Lord Rogar Baratheon's younger brother Borys Baratheon joined hands with the Vulture King and starts raiding his own people from the Dornish Red Mountains. For those crimes and to secure Stormlands, Lord Rogar Baratheon sought his step-son King Jaehaerys I's leave to...

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Q: What could Jon snow possibly have to do a certain thing? (question about S8E6)

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Kepotx

@BaeltheBard is this opinion based/future work policy?

I mean, it's not what would he do, but what could he do

Aegon

Yup, that's why I haven't cast the close vote yet

But the whole premise is based on future work

Kepotx

is it still a good question though?

Aegon

"Looks like jonno will fight Danny's doggo"

Possibly although I doubt we will have any answer except "We do not know"

We will have to draw back to deaths of the other dragons. And in all cases where men killed Dragons, Jon seems to lack the numbers, weapons they had

Meh close vote cast

Kepotx

@Aegon well, answer would be "he can do this, this and that"

but at least in worldbuilding.SE, question that lead to broad answer, without answer better than other are considered bad quality

so guess it's similar here

well, jon can kill dany without killing drogon

and when dragon loose their master, they can bond to a knew one

so it wouldn't surprise me if drogon become the new jon's big boi

Aegon

07:41

Yup, he doesn't have to kill Drogon. But I think its safe to say that D&D will make him kill Drogon

Because that would look cool on the screen

Kepotx

or Jaime

he had a revenge to take on Drogon

will look cool

and subversive, as everyone though he was dead

Aegon

We if that's how we are playing, I see your Jaime and raise you a Ghost

No creature on earth hates them dragons more than him

Ghost leaps in at the last second and rips Drogon's throat out. Rhaegel stole Jon from him, Ghost will be damned if he lets it happen again

Kepotx

but then, dany drink wildfire, and become a big dragon

because, you know, nobody have tried it before

bim, subversion AND lore destruction

Aegon

Lol even when people point out Aerion, D&D would be all "Dany kind of forgot she was supposed to die"

Jenayah

08:03

Possibly sent someone here, just thought I'd let you guys know.

I'm sure there is, that's not the matter. "Primarily opinion-based" is the close reason for Future Works Policy, namely closing stuff that we know for sure will get answered in the next movie/book/episode etc. Read more on this meta post. In the meantime, you can freely discuss and theorize it in the GOT chatroom — Jenayah 30 secs ago

Aegon

Every visitor shall be given bread and salt, the guest-right.

Kepotx

08:37

@Aegon not sure if that really reassuring now

Aegon

@Kepotx What are you doing down here? Go play some music in the gallery..."HEH".

Kepotx

hope Game of Thrones/ASOIAF will still be famous enough during my wedding, so I could play rains of castamere, doing a big smile t my terrified guests

Aegon

Lol, goodluck with that. I'd not be surprised if after this season we gave the show the real Night King experience

All records, even his very name wiped from the memory of men

Kepotx

Game of Thrones become the new Herostratus

Aegon

TIL

Kepotx

08:52

well, it would be more D&D burning GoT

sad thing, even if ephesians banished his name, he is still famous, so I guess D&D will be famous in the future

Aegon

Well you know what they say, no publicity is bad publicity

notoriety is fame.

Kepotx

"— Je le connais votre type, me dit-il. Il s'appelle Érostrate. Il voulait devenir illustre et il n'a rien trouvé de mieux que de brûler le temple d'Éphèse, une des sept merveilles du monde.
— Et comment s'appelait l'architecte de ce temple ?
— Je ne me rappelle plus, confessa-t-il, je crois même qu'on ne sait pas son nom.
— Vraiment ? Et vous vous rappelez le nom d'Érostrate ? Vous voyez qu'il n'avait pas fait un si mauvais calcul."
Jean-Paul Sartre

(badly done translation):

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Kepotx

"I know your guy, he tell me. He is named Herostratus? He wanted to be famous, and found nothing more than burning temple of Ephese, one of the seven wonders"

"and what was the name of the architect?"

JAD

@Kepotx nothing better*

Kepotx

08:59

"I don't remember, he confess, I don't even think we know his name"

Aegon

type is guy? I thought type would be like english type?

TheLethalCarrot

@Kepotx I'm getting married next week but I doubt most of the guests would recognise it for it to pay off

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Aegon

"I know your type, I said. Its name is Erostrate. something something temple of ehpese, one of the seven wonders of the world"

@TheLethalCarrot For real? Congratulations :O

Kepotx

"Really? And you remember Herostratus? See, he wasn't wrong after all"

TheLethalCarrot

@Aegon Yeah, thought you knew that, I dunno get confused with who I've told and who I haven't haha

Kepotx

09:00

congrats carrot

Aegon

Man French really is super close to English

I really should try and learn it

@TheLethalCarrot Didn't know. Which way you goin? In light of the old gods or the new? ;)

JAD

@Aegon keepin' it simple, burning some people at stakes

Fifth_H0r5eman

I find that French words seem to be recognizable to root English, but the sentence structure and grammar is just different enough to throw it, personally.

Kepotx

@Aegon it can have several meaning, "type" can also mean "category"

TheLethalCarrot

@Aegon New I'm afraid, couldn't find a Heart tree... :/

Kepotx

09:03

"type" for meaning a person is more informal however

Aegon

Find an Elm tree and get married in light of the god of the white cloaks, Ser Duncan the Tall

Kepotx

@Aegon thanks William the bastard for that

TheLethalCarrot

@Aegon There's an Elm Tree pub nearby but you wouldn't want to get married there haha

Aegon

@Fifth_H0r5eman That would be possibly true. the phrases I understood in that message seem to have same structure tho. But maybe that's because I am recognising only the words and their position, not the actual grammar

@Kepotx Merci, Monsieur Guillame L'batard

Can you contract La batard like that? Or you must write both words separately

Kepotx

Le batard*

l'batard could be said in oral

but it's odd to see it writen

Aegon

09:05

Le and La yeah think I'll keep getting confused by the two

what's their deal? One for living things, the other for inanimate objects?

Kepotx

same

Aegon

Both are same?

Kepotx

french isn't my mother language, so i always had trouble with it

Aegon

What is your mother tongue? Catalan or basque?

Kepotx

nah, it's way more complex than that

basque

Aegon

09:07

Noice

Kepotx

and there isn't gender in this language

Aegon

Basque is unique in European languages IIRC

With no kin-languages

Kepotx

also, each letter are pronounced, and no accent

so switching from basque to french wasn't this easy

Aegon

Accents are lame anyways

Kepotx

its not an indo-european language

Aegon

09:08

Well it wouldn't make sense to me then haha

I mostly go by recognising the small similarities in indo-European tongues, limited as my ability might be

Fifth_H0r5eman

Le and La are masculine feminine, each noun has a gender and it's just something you apparently "know" when growing up French, no real logic to it.

Aegon

@Fifth_H0r5eman Same in my native tongue

Kepotx

lot of words come from latin/french/spanish or arabic

Aegon

A table is male, a chair is female

Kepotx

so you could get some words

Fifth_H0r5eman

09:09

I remember my old French teacher telling us that she'd asked about a modern piece of tech, memory stick or something, and a group of French teens spent ages arguing over the gender

Aegon

Why? Don't ask me, that's the way it is

Kepotx

what's your native language?

Aegon

@Kepotx Oh yeah those I guess I could recognise

@Kepotx Urdu

Kepotx

@Fifth_H0r5eman yeah, for lot of new words, some are confused

like is it "le wifi" or "la wifi"

@Fifth_H0r5eman there are still some broad rules, jobs are usually masculine, field feminine

so it's "le scientifique" but "la science"

Fifth_H0r5eman

Exactly. There was a charming Eddie Izzard sketch on how at some point over a 400 year period, when English was still developing from Ango-French roots, we must have decided to just scrap gendered nouns

That's interesting, I did not know that

Aegon

09:13

@Kepotx Interesting. For us it can vary from word to word. One word for job can be male, second word for the same job can be female. Guess it's more messed up than french

JAD

@Aegon same in Dutch, de for masculine/feminine, het for onzijdig. Simplification from German where there is der die das.

Aegon

Man I tried learning German once online

This der die das confused me a lot

JAD

It's even trickier, because there are no easy rules for de vs het generally.

Aegon

Along with du, sie, ihr

JAD

that's an entirely different headache

so basically, german grammar is a lot like latin. Dutch grammar is a lot like german, but with stuff left out. That makes it that there's not as much a nice rule for everything, but rather that there is a lot of exceptions left and right

Kepotx

09:24

TL;DR: Languages are complex

Aegon

+1

@JAD I'd always heard that Dutch is very similar to English and native dutch speakers have a very easy time learning English. From my brief exposure to dutch, it does seem close

Bael the Bard

09:43

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Q: Time Series Analysis - Game of thrones - Total Number of Deaths per episode every season [LATEST]

I'm trying to do a time series analysis on the total number of deaths (of not just important characters but everyone in general) per epsisode of Game of thrones for a course project. I was wondering if there was a statistic/dataset on total number of deaths per episode per season. I've come to kn...

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Bael the Bard

10:42

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Q: How fast do Drogon, Viserion and Rhaegal grow compared to the dragons of the past?

In season 1 we see And in season 8 we see How fast do they grow compared to other dragons?

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Kepotx

12:10

@TheLethalCarrot have you got canon-source for one year-one season thing?

as the actors grew up by one year per season, it wouldn't surprise me

TheLethalCarrot

Inside the Episode states Arya as a 20 year old, that's closest I know of, before that I think it was just a fan theory

Kepotx

otherwise, it would be odd to have a ten year arya played by a twenty year actress

whole show timeline dosn't make sense

two days to go from trident to KL

few days between Winterfell battle and KL battle

so, basically, a year between two seasons, but 10 day form episode 1 to finale?

Fifth_H0r5eman

I tend to think of it less as "A year has passed off screen with nothing happening" and more as "The 8 episodes I've seen which seem to span days actually span a year, but they can't make an actor slowly age between scenes in the same episode"

Aegon

I am mostly indifferent about time

Just make up whatever makes sense in your head....Or don't.

Timelines have been pretty much vague in the source materials as well. We just don't realise that because we keep following multiple plots in multiple chapters

Fifth_H0r5eman

Yes travel times are a mess, but I try to think there's plenty of rallying and readying an army, preparing rations and logistics for them to march for days or weeks, etc which turns single episodes into weeks at least

Kepotx

12:16

@Fifth_H0r5eman that would be the logical solution

Fifth_H0r5eman

Exactly. Yes it's a bit of a pain when two people thousands of miles apart get a message at the same time, and arrive the next day. But otherwise I can handwave it

Aegon

So when we go from Robb sitting in Riverrun to Jaime going to KL to Tyrion trying to prove his innocence to Dany fighting her wars....and then back to Robb who's now in the Westerlands raiding and pillaging, it doesn't seem nonsense

Kepotx

sure

again, no problem with time gap between diferent events

Fifth_H0r5eman

Also, I know it's vastly different scales. But I've run D&D games for a few years, and played under multiple DMs. Tracking time is almost universally a mess and gets handwaved

Bael the Bard

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Q: What did Cersei mean when she said "You flowered little dove"?

In one of the episodes of Game of Thrones, Sansa woke up to found blood on her bed. She became fearful and started to hide this from Cersei. I didn't understand it. Cersei was cruel to Sansa, but I don't think she wouldn't have given Sansa medical attention. Afterall, Sansa was going to marry Jof...

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Aegon

12:23

@BaeltheBard Idk what more can I add to that answer

I feel dirty leaving an one line answer

TheLethalCarrot

First period I think is more accurate and Sansa is also scared because now she knows Cersei knows she can get pregnant, that's why she's trying to hide it

Fifth_H0r5eman

I'm slightly concerned to be honest that someone who's as unaware of what happened in that scene is watching GoT as a whole...

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TheLethalCarrot

They're not unaware but that's a different discussion

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Kepotx

"Member for 8 years, 2 months"

he is cleary old enough

Aegon

12:29

And long has he trolled the site

Fifth_H0r5eman

I didn't even glance at the rep, the pop culture username made me think he was new. Rookie error on my part

Ah right. I admit I'm more of a RPG and Puzzler user, wasn't aware

Kepotx

I'm slightly concerned to be honest that someone who's as unaware of what happened in that question is answering puzzles as a whole...

Fifth_H0r5eman

I assumed it was asked in good faith, usually on Puzzling the worst we get are people copying puzzles from competitions, not exactly trolls

Kepotx

it was just a joke

Fifth_H0r5eman

I know, sorry if that came across as a snap, it wasn't. Just explaining my ignorance

Aegon

14:56

Top comments had me floored.

PDX+GOT=GREAT

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Q: Why did Jon go to Dragonstone?

Daenarys travels to Dragonstone in Game of Thrones S08E04 and gets ambushed by Euron's fleet, losing both Missandei and Rhaegal in the attack. At the start of S08E05, we see Jon arrive in Dragonstone, and is approached by Varys, in an attempt to have him claim the crown ahead of Daenarys, which...

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Bael the Bard

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Q: Why did Rhaenyra Targaryen think that Bartimos Celtigar couldn't ride a dragon?

House Celtigar is one of the three Valyrian houses that moved to the Western most outpost of the Valyrian Empire (The other two being Velaryons and Targaryens). Out of the three of them only Targaryens had dragons so they naturally became the leaders. We know that only people with blood of Old ...

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Bael the Bard

17:35

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Q: Why did Varys explain his plans to Tyrion, even after it was clear he was unwilling?

I've always seen Varys as a pragmatist. He let Ned die instead of saving him because he understands you cannot always do what is "right." So why didn't he backtrack after Tyrion told him he was loyal to Dany?

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I Love You 3000

18:01

Is Daenerys going to die?

Aegon

@ILoveYou3000 Presumably yes.

That seems to be the only road now

I Love You 3000

@Aegon But, GoT always surprise us. You can never know. It's not game of morality. It's game of thrones. Cruel and mad people have always ruled. She has got power and that's what matters.

Aegon

@ILoveYou3000 Not quiet. Cruel and mad people always face the consequences of their actions eventually. Maegor, Aerys II, Joffrey to quote a few.

The reason it was surprising was because unlike other fantasy genre works, the plot armour largely didn't exist. The character makes a stupid mistake? Gone!

For example, Red Wedding was only surprising because people never thought that Starks would get slaughtered like that. They thought they had plot armour

But Red Wedding was direct and logical result of Robb's stupidity

But you're right in one sense, the showrunners have the wrong idea about "subverting expectations". They do it just for shock value even if it makes no sense

So yeah, you never know what illogical thing they might do next

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Q: Why did the Mountain become almost immortal?

In Game of Thrones s08e05 we see a fight between the two Clegane brothers, Sandor(Hound) and Gregor(Mountain). From the start of the fight, the Hound seemed to have the control and stabbed the Mountain with his sword in the belly: However, it looked like the Mountain didn't even feel anything s...

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Bael the Bard

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Q: Precedent for disabled Kings

Has there been any disabled King in the history of Westeros? Or any Kings who suffered from a bout of gout which rendered them unable to walk for a long time (possibly permanently)?

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I Love You 3000

18:24

What if it was Bran who burned innocent people after warging into Drogon?

What if an another warg is responsible?

@Aegon

What if Varys' poison made Daenerys mentally unstable?

Aegon

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Q: Can Bran Stark control dragons?

In the third season of Game Of Thrones, we saw scenes showing that Bran can control Summer and Hodor, since he is a warg. In S2E03: What Is Dead May Never Die Bran says to Luwin: Old Nan used to tell me stories about magical people who could live inside stags, birds, wolves... I think dr...

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@ILoveYou3000 We have no indication that poisoning succeeded. And I doubt Varys would choose slow-poisoning over more potent and less traceable poisons like tears of lys. Jon Arryn was given the same poison and you can hide the death as natural.

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Q: Did Melisandre really go back to Volantis?

At the beginning of Game of Thrones season 7 Melisandre has the following exchange with Varys when Jon Snow arrives at Dragonstone... Varys: I wondered why you weren't there to meet our guests.You begged us to summon the King in the North, don't you want to see him again? Melesandre: I...

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Bael the Bard

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Q: Where is Ilyn Payne and why is he not dead?

Arya's killing list included Ilyn Payne, the king's torturer and executor. Was it mantioned anywhere if he died or not?

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Bael the Bard

23:11

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Q: Just how old is Melisandre?

In Game of Thrones we see the Red Woman Melisandre remove a necklace which presumably acts as a glamour and gives her the appearance of a young woman. When she removes it we see that she is in fact rather old and decrepit. Considering her god is known to bring people back to life, particularly th...

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